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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
@Elder Lee Hung to be clear with you, a case can be made for Akainu to be stronger then him especially if he fights Luffy but i feel like you are treating Kaido as if he were some sort of scrub that any top tier can beat, when portrayal and feats wise its not the case. Far from it.
I’m not saying any top tier can beat Kaido, I’m saying his reputation as the strongest is clearly and obviously a lie lol. He’s never beaten any top tiers 1v1, hell he’s really never even beaten anyone stronger than WCI Luffy in a clean 1v1. His victory over Oden was a lie, he couldn’t beat Big Meme in a 2 day battle, he couldn’t beat Yamato, he ran away from Celestial Dragon Shanks, and the only time he was brave enough to face Whitebeard was when he literally thought Whitebeard could kill him.

He attempts suicide his whole life but never thought to just jump into the ocean, lol.

He is semi-invulnerable and as a result has the pain tolerance of a toddler, so every time he experiences even a small amount of pain, he screams like a toddler who bumped their knee on a table or some shit. Akainu endured two enraged Haki imbued quake blows from the world’s strongest man and Paramecia, barely grunts in pain because he is an enormous chad with amazing pain tolerance and endurance. Kaido gets bit by Momonosuke, screams like an aspiring metal vocalist.

Literally every aspect of Kaido’s title is fraudulent, he’s an invulnerable chicken coasting off of a clearly incorrect title lol. Sure he’s a Yonko and a top tier but no aspect of this man’s reputation is correct lol.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
If defeating the WSC isn't enough to see you strong as yonkou than what is?

Oda can always come up with new side characters to question Luffy status because SHs always act like clowns...


In the past when SHs defeated opponents no one raised such question mark - but why suddenly there is need for Luffy to prove himself again that too after defeating a yonkou himself?
The point is that the world doesnt know about it. They think Kidd and Law contributed as equally as Luffy did.

That's the underestimation im talking about.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
The point is that the world doesnt know about it. They think Kidd and Law contributed as equally as Luffy did.

That's the underestimation im talking about.
World knows it.

We have Morgan panel saying kaido and BM went down in single night. Even if you say achievements got clubbed then as well taking down two yonkous is huge feat.


Then, we have another panel where it was stated law defeated BM. Luffy was not even brought up

So, world knows.

Also, Luffy hasn't been placed on equal footing as kid and law - he became a yonkou
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
World knows it.

We have Morgan panel saying kaido and BM went down in single night. Even if you say achievements got clubbed then as well taking down two yonkous is huge feat.


Then, we have another panel where it was stated law defeated BM. Luffy was not even brought up

So, world knows.

Also, Luffy hasn't been placed on equal footing as kid and law - he became a yonkou
They dont.

Which is why you still have statements like i highlighted. Info about Nika was surpressed and Reward for beating Kaidou/BM split.

Luffy is considered a Yonko but at the same time not as respected as the other established Yonko are. Lucci will never look at Kaidou or Shanks and tell "I refuse to acknowledge you as an Emperor".

This is deliberate to make sure Luffy & SHP showing off looks great narratively.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
They dont.

Which is why you still have statements like i highlighted. Info about Nika was surpressed and Reward for beating Kaidou/BM split.

Luffy is considered a Yonko but at the same time not as respected as the other established Yonko are. Lucci will never look at Kaidou or Shanks and tell him "I refuse to acknowledge you as an Emperor".

This is deliberate to make sure Luffy & SHP showing off looks great narratively.
Info about nika was suppressed and this is nothing new tbh. WG is known for it.

Yet, Luffy bounty poster has G5 picture.


See, you can argue Luffy will beat kizaru but the reason you are giving isn't logical.


I mean even if you think rewards were split then as well Luffy, kid and Law defeated two yonkous in single night (that's in manga). 3 pirates defeating two yonkous is still massive deal and speaks of strength.

And, does it really matter what bonney and Lucci have to say? I mean you can always come across such characters in future who will doubt luffy so does he has to prove everytime?

And, their remarks have more to do with something else....


Lucci - Luffy defeated him. He simply in denial mode. He can't accept how SH grew so much in strength.

Bonney - fellow wg member

Lilith - because SHs were acting goofy.. nothing new. It always happen anyway.



And, I do agree that a yonkou defeating admiral not happened till now so it might be shocking incident however, it has nothing to do with world doesn't believe he is yonkou level.

Its because world haven't seen a pirate destroying naval fleet led by 30K marines + 9VAs + an Admiral...

The shock isn't due to they underestimate Luffy but because they didn't expect an admiral to go down ...


Big difference
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Info about nika was suppressed and this is nothing new tbh. WG is known for it.

Yet, Luffy bounty poster has G5 picture.
Which happened via accident and was un intended.

I mean even if you think rewards were split then as well Luffy, kid and Law defeated two yonkous in single night (that's in manga). 3 pirates defeating two yonkous is still massive deal and speaks of strength.
Not just the reward, achievements were also split between the 3.

I mean, Wano is a closed off country and people outside have no idea what's going on inside. Which is precisely why information can be manipulated by the world govt. They don't know that Luffy defeated Kaidou while Kidd/Law struggled to beat Linlin in a 2v1.

The rewards being split is the cherry on the top. Some SHs don't even have higher bounties than the characters they defeated lol.

Ryokugyu thought he can walk in, kill Luffy and walk out like it's nothing - whereas the same dude literally admitted he would never do this had Kaidou been here and also retreated when Shanks was nearby. Clearly there is a difference in how he treated Luffy where there shouldn't be any.

Lucci - Luffy defeated him. He simply in denial mode. He can't accept how SH grew so much in strength.

Bonney - fellow wg member

Lilith - because SHs were acting goofy.. nothing new. It always happen anyway.
You can give all these reasons, i'm saying that Oda has consistently been putting these "random" scenes together across the whole arc to tell a narrative - that is the SHs are being underestimated.
He is making them seem like the underdogs on purpose, to make their victory see even more better.

And, I do agree that a yonkou defeating admiral not happened till now so it might be shocking incident however, it has nothing to do with world doesn't believe he is yonkou level.

Its because world haven't seen a pirate destroying naval fleet led by 30K marines + 9VAs + an Admiral...

The shock isn't due to they underestimate Luffy but because they didn't expect an admiral to go down ...


Big difference
I've always said that the shock is because a Gorousei and an Admiral are about to bite the dust.

The "shock" isn't because someone they don't consider Yonkou is gonna beat their asses, I've never said that. But it's very true that they are underestimating Luffy when compared to an older, established Yonkou. That is gonna come full circle with the SHs stomping this armada.
 
For some reason I thought you said they had the same level of feats and portrayal lol
It only goes to prove how ordinary the scene is, the fact that he has far superior portrayal and feats to Big Job proves the scene isn’t really giving off any special treatment to Kaido among the yonko, his portrayal is attained from other places
I guess we misunderstood each other.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Which happened via accident and was un intended.


Not just the reward, achievements were also split between the 3.

I mean, Wano is a closed off country and people outside have no idea what's going on inside. Which is precisely why information can be manipulated by the world govt. They don't know that Luffy defeated Kaidou while Kidd/Law struggled to beat Linlin in a 2v1.

The rewards being split is the cherry on the top. Some SHs don't even have higher bounties than the characters they defeated lol.

Ryokugyu thought he can walk in, kill Luffy and walk out like it's nothing - whereas the same dude literally admitted he would never do this had Kaidou been here and also retreated when Shanks was nearby. Clearly there is a difference in how he treated Luffy where there shouldn't be any.


You can give all these reasons, i'm saying that Oda has consistently been putting these "random" scenes together across the whole arc to tell a narrative - that is the SHs are being underestimated.
He is making them seem like the underdogs on purpose, to make their victory see even more better.


I've always said that the shock is because a Gorousei and an Admiral are about to bite the dust.

The "shock" isn't because someone they don't consider Yonkou is gonna beat their asses, I've never said that. But it's very true that they are underestimating Luffy when compared to an older, established Yonkou. That is gonna come full circle with the SHs stomping this armada.
My point is simple bro

Shs got underestimated since the beginning. What you saw from Bonney, Stussy and Lucci is nothing new but this doesn't equate to World needs to know how strong luffy is nor SHs care about it.

And, World government surely isn't underestimating Luffy considering the fleet they send.



Also, Saturn isn't biting the dust because seras are likely to go with WG (with small chance of BBP getting it along with york which still won't make sense)

Tbh, I think "shocking incident" has more to it than just kizaru going down.
 
I’m not saying any top tier can beat Kaido, I’m saying his reputation as the strongest is clearly and obviously a lie lol. He’s never beaten any top tiers 1v1, hell he’s really never even beaten anyone stronger than WCI Luffy in a clean 1v1. His victory over Oden was a lie, he couldn’t beat Big Meme in a 2 day battle, he couldn’t beat Yamato, he ran away from Celestial Dragon Shanks, and the only time he was brave enough to face Whitebeard was when he literally thought Whitebeard could kill him.

He attempts suicide his whole life but never thought to just jump into the ocean, lol.

He is semi-invulnerable and as a result has the pain tolerance of a toddler, so every time he experiences even a small amount of pain, he screams like a toddler who bumped their knee on a table or some shit. Akainu endured two enraged Haki imbued quake blows from the world’s strongest man and Paramecia, barely grunts in pain because he is an enormous chad with amazing pain tolerance and endurance. Kaido gets bit by Momonosuke, screams like an aspiring metal vocalist.

Literally every aspect of Kaido’s title is fraudulent, he’s an invulnerable chicken coasting off of a clearly incorrect title lol. Sure he’s a Yonko and a top tier but no aspect of this man’s reputation is correct lol.
Again who did WB and Mihawk beat to reach their rep?
His victory over Oden was something that ate at him his entire life.
It took Akainu 10 days to beat Aokiji what is your point?
He was beating the shit out of Yamato and lecturing her like an angry dad asking her to rule Wano. He wasnt gonna KO or Kill her. This was him disciplining her.
He was alone with King against Shanks entire crew and we dont know what happened. You know for someone who always finds context and excuses for Admirals you are extremely unforgiving when it comes to other top tiers.
And finally the reason for him going to MF, he was likely going there to die in the war, not to that WB could kill him and even if that were the case how does that make him a coward like you claimed? Are Shanks and WB and Mihawk cowards for sticking to their spots and barely moving?

This clearly shows how you didnt understand the mans character at all or are just playing dumb. He doesnt just wanna die, he wants to die a glorious death to ne remembered for. Like Oden, WB and Roger. So why would he try to fucking drown bro?

Pain tolerance of a toddler when the man was taking Snakeman COC coated hits all over and making winky faces to Luffy? Good god Lee, him yelling from to time is fine and also how does that make him a coward again?

Your entire post still didnt explain this to me btw.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Shs got underestimated since the beginning. What you saw from Bonney, Stussy and Lucci is nothing new but this doesn't equate to World needs to know how strong luffy is nor SHs care about it.
Luffy or SHs have never EVER cared about it.
I'm saying this is the time Oda is gonna separate Luffy from the rest of the Supernovas as one is a Yonko in both name and reality while the others aren't.

And that's easily achievable by having them flex against the same group that once defeated their crew.
Saturn is just a cherry on top, waiting to fall this arc.
 
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