Character Discussion The Real reason why they don't want Zoro vs kizaru
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Of the crew, Luffy was the first to beat a commander and a yonkou. Don't see Oda flipping the script to have Zoro defeat an Admiral before Luffy.
The good thing about ZKK 2.0 is that it will revitalize the forum with bunch of Zoro wanking threads and that's entertainment.
Hopefully Zoro clashes with Kizaru at least.
The good thing about ZKK 2.0 is that it will revitalize the forum with bunch of Zoro wanking threads and that's entertainment.
Hopefully Zoro clashes with Kizaru at least.
Zoro beating Kizaru is a problem because they wont be able to say that he aint a top tier anymore but also literally above most of them.
Zoro's strength is threatening almost every fandom and by default it also lifts Mihawk where they don't want him at.
Zoro's strength is threatening almost every fandom and by default it also lifts Mihawk where they don't want him at.
Oda always does his best to keep Zoro and Luffy around the same level even after post-time skip. You just need to look at how even most of their power up parallel each other.
Base <====> 1 sword style
Gear 2 <====> 2 sword style
Gear 3 <====> 3 sword style
Gear 4 <====> King of hell style
- Gear 4 boundman <====> King of hell : three sword style
- Gear 4 snakeman <====> king of hell- three dragon swords
Gear 5 Barjung Gun <====> KoH Asura
FS <====> sleep diff CoO.
Nika fire manipulation <====>flame rant
Turn everything into rubber <====> BOAT (cut everything)
Coc coating <====> coc infusion
Internal destrution <====> CoA barrier
Overflowing CoA smoke <====> Overflowing CoA fire
Zoro's road to the top tier level is one of the cleanest so far. His wins and feats are unquestionable.
Leaving a scar on the WSC after a 1 vs 1 clash while on death door >> fighting a top tier and accomplishing nothing or with help. The only thing that can top that is to humiliate a top tier or beat them without help.
-Pushed back Fujitora with a nameless slash back in Dressrosa.
-Fought Kaido and Big Mom and countered their main arsenal, tornadoes, fire, homies, speed, and durability.
-stopped and tanked half of Hakkai
-Reopened Oden's scar and left his own on Kaido.
-Mid diffed a top commander like King who is the godfather of the seraphim that current emperor Luffy himself cant damage and who proved himself by beating another top commander in Marco. Unless Ben Beckman is a high top tier then King was the strongest top commander of the OG era. All while simultaneously taming Enma and surpassing Oden's swordsmanship with King of hell styles.
-Experienced double the damage from both Hakkai and damage accumulated from his king fight.
-As if it wasn't enough Faced death itself right after everything he went through
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Zoro alwayys stay BELOW luffy, stop the delusion.
Also just lol at comparing asura with gear 5
Big mom will show up on elbaf due to giants plot, gigantification, pudding and blackbeard plot.
Blackkbeard x big mom will be a neg diff for teach in order to hype him up.
Still, we have luffy's travel back in time around 1100 so it will still take a LOT of time till elbaf.
Also just lol at comparing asura with gear 5
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Big mom will show up on elbaf due to giants plot, gigantification, pudding and blackbeard plot.
Blackkbeard x big mom will be a neg diff for teach in order to hype him up.
Still, we have luffy's travel back in time around 1100 so it will still take a LOT of time till elbaf.
Mihawk battle is, and must be, a big thing.
So it will be shown with the utmost & greatest epicness. During this battle, Zoro will go all out more than his previous fights (Mr 1 and King).
No matter how much stronger do you think Mihawk (or weaker Kizaru) is, Kizaru is never below "50% of Mihawk".
Defeating Kizaru solo now practically means you'll have a minimum 50% chance winning against Mihawk, which in turn won't make a thrilling WSS battle.
So it will be shown with the utmost & greatest epicness. During this battle, Zoro will go all out more than his previous fights (Mr 1 and King).
No matter how much stronger do you think Mihawk (or weaker Kizaru) is, Kizaru is never below "50% of Mihawk".
Defeating Kizaru solo now practically means you'll have a minimum 50% chance winning against Mihawk, which in turn won't make a thrilling WSS battle.
Not trying to downplay him, but Sanji's powers isn't broken (if anything he has broken le... ehm).
At least not at the same level as Luffy & Zoro.
ACoC is one thing, but Sanji's powers itself are practically just higher or advanced version of basic stats (faster healing & tougher skin), not a new or unique/special powers. Nothing broken here.
At least not at the same level as Luffy & Zoro.
ACoC is one thing, but Sanji's powers itself are practically just higher or advanced version of basic stats (faster healing & tougher skin), not a new or unique/special powers. Nothing broken here.
Which is the case. Zoro is somewhere close to 70% to mihawk. He needs a real W against a top tier before Mihawk to be able to match him at 100%.
Zoro is not also weak. Luffy just defeated Kaido but the story still going on and BB, imu are still there.
If you are talking about "now" only then yes zoro vs kizaru (or any other admiral) is too soon considering shiryu vs zoro.
Zoro is not also weak. Luffy just defeated Kaido but the story still going on and BB, imu are still there.
If you are talking about "now" only then yes zoro vs kizaru (or any other admiral) is too soon considering shiryu vs zoro.
Oda himself already acknowledged luffy and zoro as worthy challenge for PK and WSS when he decided to have both Shanks And Mihawk move their ass and join the batle royal meaning he believe the duo can give them a good fight at the very least .nothing short of 70% mihawk can counter koh ashura which is already far above an admiral in strenght.