Questions & Mysteries Will Mihawk actually be Zoro's final opponent?

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#41
IMO its 50-50 between Mihawk and Shiryu


:denzimote: That grim ripper option completely caught me offguard
Shiryu isn't going to be stronger than Mihawk, nor have a bounty as high as Mihawk; would Zoro's final opponent be a downgrade?

I think Nasujuro is the other candidate for Zoro's final opponent.

Just as Imu can be stronger than Kaido/Whitebeard, Oda could make a Gorosei stronger than Mihawk.
 
#43
That would be counterproductive. The idea was to show the pain through the grim reaper.

It was so severe that traditional methods weren't enough. The mink side effect hadn't kicked in yet, the grim reaper was the visual representation of the side effects about to kick in.
But we never see Zoro express how much suffering he's experiencing from all these sources of pain, and in a visual media like One Piece Zoro's raw emotions would of expressed more of his struggle and would of better convey it as well than some dead figure with a scythe, but as it stands now the Grim Reaper really muddied what it was suppose to represent to the audience as what most took away from the scene wasn't Zoro's anguish of staying in the living world, but rather things like foreshadowing for what to come, simply illusions from the mink medicine in and of itself, or an actual entity that came for Zoro's fucking head, and Zoro would need to fight it off, all of which takes away from the dilenma Zoro is suppose to be in as it unintentionally set up expectations since Oda had never done anything like this before. Nevertheless the main issue is that we never got to see Zoro's suffering from the aftermath directly, which takes the punch out of his strife to hold on for dear life. That's why when people bring up Zoro vs King no one brings up the amount of torment Zoro endured here whereas in the "Nothing Happened" moment Zoro's expressions when he was standing still made it clear how excruciating the whole ordeal was for him.

It doesn't help that when Zoro does recover from his coma he doesn't experience any further lingering injuries that affects his fighting capabilities in the arc after Wano. If Oda's intentions with the Grim Reaper were to display Zoro's pain, then that shit fell flatter than a pancake.
 
#46
What stops Oda from elevating Shiryu to that level?
Practically speaking? Nothing as Oda's the sole writer at the end of the day. Logically speaking? The fact that he, Aokiji, and the rest of the island had to jump an old ass mofo who's nowhere in his prime and actually struggled to get him subdued, and needed to sacrifice himself by getting badly injured by a non-Hardened punch to get a stab on Garp shows that he's not anywhere near a level of Garp, who himself isn't on a level of a Mihawk or a Shanks. With that in mind it'd be bullshit for him to suddenly be stronger than Mihawk within a few months if that since this could be a few weeks from now in story.

The reason why Nusjuro has the possibility to be stronger than Mihawk is because of the pure mystery of his fighting capabilities, which allows people to let their imaginations run wild of how powerful he is, and with the hype of likely having a mythical devil fruit and having a title of a warrior god so late in the story, it stands to reason that Nusjuro can be one of the strongest people in One Piece.
 
#47
Practically speaking? Nothing as Oda's the sole writer at the end of the day. Logically speaking? The fact that he, Aokiji, and the rest of the island had to jump an old ass mofo who's nowhere in his prime and actually struggled to get him subdued, and needed to sacrifice himself by getting badly injured by a non-Hardened punch to get a stab on Garp shows that he's not anywhere near a level of Garp, who himself isn't on a level of a Mihawk or a Shanks. With that in mind it'd be bullshit for him to suddenly be stronger than Mihawk within a few months if that since this could be a few weeks from now in story.
The only one who got badly injured was Garp, dude was wobbling and holding his abdomen for couple of chapters after Shiryu's stab. Look at the final panel, Shiryu is smoking cigar while standing strong.

The thing is old Garp even looked stronger than Kuzan. Oda was just saving face of a legend who was the marine counterpart of Roger. These things happen. Look at Marineford. Who do you think was stronger, Mihawk or old Whitebeard who couldnt use haki properly and was having a heart attack? But Mihawk's slash didnt even reach Whitebeard and he was later stopped by Vista. Its all about plot. If the plot demands, Vista can stop Mihawk. If the plot demands, Oda will elevate Shiryu to that level.

The reason why Nusjuro has the possibility to be stronger than Mihawk is because of the pure mystery of his fighting capabilities, which allows people to let their imaginations run wild of how powerful he is, and with the hype of likely having a mythical devil fruit and having a title of a warrior god so late in the story, it stands to reason that Nusjuro can be one of the strongest people in One Piece.
Nasjuro being stronger than Mihawk means, the WG has like 10-12 admiral level people on their side, which is ridiculous
 
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#48
Are you guys again with this bullshit?
Of course he is going to be nothing says that a Teacher can't fight his student look garp and aokiji also mihawk is going to LT now that he is with buggy "nothing will happen to him" if it is what people are expecting and there won't be anything more after LT one piece ends up there
The fights that remains for woro are
Shiryu < an admiral maybe (fujitora is my bet) < mihawk
I don't even think he is fighting that nasujuro gorosei
 
#50
Many people are on this belief that Mihawk will be Zoro's final opponent and that will be it for Zoro, so do you think Mihawk will truly be Zoro's final opponent or do you think someone else will end up being Zoro's final opponent?

I do want to say that imo it doesn't matter whether or not Mihawk ends up being Zoro's final opponent, because at the end of the day Zoro will fight and defeat Mihawk.
Yeah, Zoro vs Mihawk will be Zoro's final fight in the series.
 
#51
As each arc pass EoS Mihawk looks ever more unlikely.

Buggy dragging Cros Guild don't setup up Mihawk for a post Pirate King Luffy.

On the other hand Zoro fighting the likes of Ghandi or hell Shiryu after the WSS is really weird.

But I don't think Mihawk is making past Laugh tale
Buggy dragging mihawk? Buggy is the reason Cross guild is making it farther than any other yonko
 

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#55
That was just Zoro's imagination personifying his critical state at the time, not an actual entity, though I'll give you that it was really fucking random since Zoro's been in this situation many times before, but yet never experienced such visions before.
Precisely because he was in the same situations many times before and Grim Reaper didnt appear, makes this clearly something else.
The pool of blood after Grim Reaper appeared didnt manifest itself through Zoro's imagination. We have no clue what happened there.

Can’t believe Nik wants Zoros final fight to be death when Luffys going to surpass someone that Death can’t kill…
Death is the inevitable end for every character, sooner or later.
We are not doing this for the next 5+ years.... :kriwhat:
You know we are. :myman:
Mortals cant stop Zoro, gotta bring otherworldly entities into play.
And even they will fail against Zori.
 
#57
Precisely because he was in the same situations many times before and Grim Reaper didnt appear, makes this clearly something else.
The pool of blood after Grim Reaper appeared didnt manifest itself through Zoro's imagination. We have no clue what happened there.


Death is the inevitable end for every character, sooner or later.

You know we are. :myman:
Mortals cant stop Zoro, gotta bring otherworldly entities into play.
And even they will fail against Zori.
Imu canonically is a man that can’t die
 
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