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It is sad how the letter of that senior vice president of Norton Healthcare is written like he was trying to find loopholes to explain the current situation and averted any direct answer regarding the cases, which were presented to them.
I haven't caught up on what the matter with the health care system in the USA is currently. Didn't they have Obama-care? (Please note that the term "Obama-care is not connotated negatively here.)
I haven't caught up on what the matter with the health care system in the USA is currently. Didn't they have Obama-care? (Please note that the term "Obama-care is not connotated negatively here.)
Some zoos are good but most aren't.
If you look from animals perspective then they are trapped within very small space or sometimes in a room like cage - such preservation which deprives animals fun, proper natural space and freedom is not really a preservation.
You are going to a zoo to have an enjoyable day to see animals who aren't having enjoyable time - this is zoo
Second, some zoos follow unethical practices behind the scenes - they even inject substances to keep animals calm.
And, then you have to understand zoos are ex-situ conservation - animals deserves in-situ conservation - natural habitat
I am not saying all zoo's should be closed but they should be limited to only few and bigger ones where certain level of standards can be maintained
If you look from animals perspective then they are trapped within very small space or sometimes in a room like cage - such preservation which deprives animals fun, proper natural space and freedom is not really a preservation.
You are going to a zoo to have an enjoyable day to see animals who aren't having enjoyable time - this is zoo
Second, some zoos follow unethical practices behind the scenes - they even inject substances to keep animals calm.
And, then you have to understand zoos are ex-situ conservation - animals deserves in-situ conservation - natural habitat
I am not saying all zoo's should be closed but they should be limited to only few and bigger ones where certain level of standards can be maintained
Dunno how zoos are there but zoos here are pretty big and spaced out. Esp main zoo in capitol
Eh i doubt they do that here. Esp considering every time i went to zoo animals were eratic af. Except cats and bears but they are lazy fucks overall
Again, i dont know practices in Asia but here Zoo's are pretty spacious and heaviliy monitored bcs of animal cruelty laws and green initiative
And also
All animals.we have in zoo are animals that cant survive in wild
Eh i doubt they do that here. Esp considering every time i went to zoo animals were eratic af. Except cats and bears but they are lazy fucks overall
Again, i dont know practices in Asia but here Zoo's are pretty spacious and heaviliy monitored bcs of animal cruelty laws and green initiative
And also
All animals.we have in zoo are animals that cant survive in wild
it goes both ways
the left is not anymore truthful then the right
both will and have lied to protect their beliefs
Animals are not really able to function in the wild much anymore due to deforestation,polution and other such factors caused by humanity
zoo's and public aquariums are not any sort of solution when their existence is dependent on profit something which could easily stop occurring over time and changing interests as the generations pass
best case for a survival of animal species would have them act as a finnical need for people like how cows are needed for food and milk therefore will never be be allowed to go extinint due to the service they provide
being a popular pet also works but with the pet industry being dead these days outside of cats and dogs, I doubt it works as a method of conversation in these same way having them as a service to humans does
the left is not anymore truthful then the right
both will and have lied to protect their beliefs
Animals are not really able to function in the wild much anymore due to deforestation,polution and other such factors caused by humanity
zoo's and public aquariums are not any sort of solution when their existence is dependent on profit something which could easily stop occurring over time and changing interests as the generations pass
best case for a survival of animal species would have them act as a finnical need for people like how cows are needed for food and milk therefore will never be be allowed to go extinint due to the service they provide
being a popular pet also works but with the pet industry being dead these days outside of cats and dogs, I doubt it works as a method of conversation in these same way having them as a service to humans does
whats your solution then? axe all of the animals currently in zoos? cause you cant put them in the wild.
zoos arent the perfect solution, but they are, if based on proper animal protection laws, pretty good at conservation of species and maybe their reintroduction into the wild, as has happened before.
there is a lot of nuance to this you know. abolishing zoos will never happen, so we should definitely try to optimize them.
zoos arent the perfect solution, but they are, if based on proper animal protection laws, pretty good at conservation of species and maybe their reintroduction into the wild, as has happened before.
there is a lot of nuance to this you know. abolishing zoos will never happen, so we should definitely try to optimize them.
Bases on science insofar as convenient towards your ideological framework
it's not like you are just reporting on the facts, you are reporting on the left wing beliefs and then post hoc rationalizing it as factual
next to nothing you say is factual it's left wing propaganda that you see as correct due to your insane amount of biases towards what amounts to being your religion
what's so funny to me, Is that despite being a machine to push a narrative facts be damned
you still pretend like you are a man of reason as if the men ruling the world thing and being in poverty are positions that are able to mutually follow with each other
I dont buy into right wing or left wing belief systems
if you wanna follow a cult then be my guest but dont play it up like it's my problem for not following every word of your religion
I have a very consistent stance on fuck both sides and they are both biased shills
that wont change ever when you are living proof of that belief like you embody it if anything
never said anything about axeing zoo's
I just think we need an industry that requires their survival to function eg lumber industry requiring trees to live for them to make profit
Because zoo's are a fickle thing, im not so sure if they would make enough profits to continue existing for following generations afterall as said interests change with generations as said
they are a good short term solution but as it stands dont think it will matter, the current generation cares more about the latest marvel movie then going to your local zoo
Wont occur
These animals are effectively domesticated meaning they would have no idea on how to hunt and besides as said with deforestation
there's barely anywhere to put them
These lions in zoos are alot of the times born in that zoo, they would have no idea on how to hunt a gazelle
never advocated for the destruction of zoo's
infact im in favor of expanding it
but the problem was more the market not any personal issues of mine
it's not like you are just reporting on the facts, you are reporting on the left wing beliefs and then post hoc rationalizing it as factual
next to nothing you say is factual it's left wing propaganda that you see as correct due to your insane amount of biases towards what amounts to being your religion
what's so funny to me, Is that despite being a machine to push a narrative facts be damned
you still pretend like you are a man of reason as if the men ruling the world thing and being in poverty are positions that are able to mutually follow with each other
I dont buy into right wing or left wing belief systems
if you wanna follow a cult then be my guest but dont play it up like it's my problem for not following every word of your religion
I have a very consistent stance on fuck both sides and they are both biased shills
that wont change ever when you are living proof of that belief like you embody it if anything
never said anything about axeing zoo's
I just think we need an industry that requires their survival to function eg lumber industry requiring trees to live for them to make profit
Because zoo's are a fickle thing, im not so sure if they would make enough profits to continue existing for following generations afterall as said interests change with generations as said
they are a good short term solution but as it stands dont think it will matter, the current generation cares more about the latest marvel movie then going to your local zoo
Wont occur
These animals are effectively domesticated meaning they would have no idea on how to hunt and besides as said with deforestation
there's barely anywhere to put them
These lions in zoos are alot of the times born in that zoo, they would have no idea on how to hunt a gazelle
never advocated for the destruction of zoo's
infact im in favor of expanding it
but the problem was more the market not any personal issues of mine
in germany some zoos are funded by the state, or supported by the state in case of them not making enough profit.
again, nuance. obviously you cant do that with just any zoo animal. but you can raise animals to reintroduce them into the wild. it worked with plenty species before. for example, the nene, a hawaiian goose, was extinct in the wild at some point and now has a stable population again thanks to the breeding in zoos.
and while many zoos (at least in germany) also often support conversation and creation of suitable habitats, thats largely an issue that has to be solved politically imho.
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again, nuance. obviously you cant do that with just any zoo animal. but you can raise animals to reintroduce them into the wild. it worked with plenty species before. for example, the nene, a hawaiian goose, was extinct in the wild at some point and now has a stable population again thanks to the breeding in zoos.
and while many zoos (at least in germany) also often support conversation and creation of suitable habitats, thats largely an issue that has to be solved politically imho.
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