Shakky said Ray is 100x stronger than Supernova while Luffy says the Strawhats are 100x stronger than their Sabaody self.
The only common denominator in both statements is Luffy - being part of both the Supernova and SHs.
Seeing the absolute cope arguments of how Chopper is Ray level is so funny though lmfao
Yeah , it is compare one man old rayleigh to SHs. That is wild wank that not even wildest sword fans came up with that .
Old rayleigh = current lufy + current zoro + current sanji + rest of the crew. By luffy logic .
But no one would say without getting flamed or get called as wanker. That why people say current luffy = old rayleigh but then say luffy is bit stronger in order not to piss off people .
In short story old gen like garp , old Whitebeard , old rayleigh are still top tiers . Their AP , endurance, speed is still top tier even they are not prime .