Controversial Funniest part is...Zoro fans are largely correct in their narrative. They simply lack patience.

AL sama

Red Haired
#27
I never said Zoro will fight Kizaru, but those who shit on Fans who believed in such Possibility are being dumb & biased
Saturn is Supreme Leader of this entire Egghead Operation, and Kizaru is his Strongest Henchman
Saying Zoro might fight No. 2 Guy is very normal & something that We can expect in every Arc

Laughing at People who thought Zoro may Fight Kizaru, is equivalent of laughing at people who thought Luffy might Fight Vergo in Punk Hazard, both didn't happen but they were completely logical guesses due to how Luffy & Zoro receive their Opponents

Zoro Fans Theories are shit on cuz they are simply hated (They hate Zoro more than anything), not cuz they are actually bad
If anyone makes a Theory about Poneglyphs or All Blue or World Map, no one gonna overreact, but when it's Theories about Zoro's Journey towards WSS, they will shit on them non-stop just cuz They are Power-Level Related due to Zoro being Crew's Fighter/Swordsman
salah you can't tell me that zoro boys thought luffy will fight a gorosei this early

so zoro fighting kizaru was never a possibility for this arc nor was it logical

luffy literally has a score to settle with kizaru
 
#30
salah you can't tell me that zoro boys thought luffy will fight a gorosei this early

so zoro fighting kizaru was never a possibility for this arc nor was it logical

luffy literally has a score to settle with kizaru
This early? It's Final Saga
Gorosei appeared since some People here weren't even born

Garp fought & lost, Shanks showcased his Signature Attack, Law & Kid Defeated, OG Three Emperors gone ... etc
And this CD Elder, there are Four others like him, alongside Nine Holy Knights
Having One Gorosei showcase his True Power (Doesn't need to be defeated) isn't gonna be that shocking

Luffy fought Morgan, right? He fought Buggy, Kuro, Krieg, Arlong, Smoker, Mr. 5, Mr. 3, Wapol, Crocodile, Bellamy, Enel, Foxy, Lucci, Moria, Magellan, Sengoku, Hody, Caesar, Doflamingo, Big Mom, Kaidou

The only time Luffy didn't Fight a Group's Leader was in Zou, but the guy never reached the City, nor did Luffy interact with any of his Henchmen, so can't really call them SHs Villains (Even in Wano, They didn't meet Jack)

So if Luffy always Clash with Villainous Groups Leaders, why should Saturn be a Guaranteed Exception?
Anyone who says Luffy will Fight Saturn is a Good Guess even if it doesn't happen, and anyone who said Zoro might have faced Kizaru was also making a Normal Guess even if it doesn't happen, and the same for Sanji vs Lucci Guesses

And the worst part is that even if you believe Kizaru is this Arc's No. 1 Villain & Saturn not gonna Introduce himself, it still doesn't mean Zoro can't face him, as Zoro clashed with Main Villains before multiple times, so it's not that impossible

As i said before, i actually predicted Luffy vs Kizaru long ago, before Wano even ended, but there is no reason to shit on people who believed Zoro might face him too, it's as good a guess as People who maybe theorized in the past that Luffy might face Vergo or He may face Kuma in Thriller Bark or fight Big Mom in Whole Cake Island or Jack in Zou ... etc

Author tries to be unpredictable sometimes, but Luffy vs No. 1 & Zoro vs No. 2 are always normal guesses
 
#31
Law and Kidd Will clearly return, probably in Erbaf.

Law himself, aside from putting on a good show, wasn't even "annihilated" and didn't seem to lose the RPGs.

I don't know where this hate comes from, but I think would be far better to wait instead of being proven wrong at the next arc, especially for Law.
 
#32
Law and Kidd Will clearly return, probably in Erbaf.

Law himself, aside from putting on a good show, wasn't even "annihilated" and didn't seem to lose the RPGs.

I don't know where this hate comes from, but I think would be far better to wait instead of being proven wrong at the next arc, especially for Law.
There's "return" sure.

But their portrayals as Luffy's "rivals" is flat out dead.

They lost their chance at becoming PK.
 
#33
Author tries to be unpredictable sometimes, but Luffy vs. No. 1 & Zoro vs. No. 2 are always normal guesses
The problem was the assumption that Saturn > Kizaru just because Kizaru is a marine and Saturn was a politician.

Now, it's not really a Spandam situation considering that Gorosei have probably a modicum of ability, but thinking that a bunch of decrepit dudes who sweat buckets when an Emperor just moves a finger are strong if not stronger than top tiers...yeah, bad take.
 

AL sama

Red Haired
#34
This early? It's Final Saga
Gorosei appeared since some People here weren't even born

Garp fought & lost, Shanks showcased his Signature Attack, Law & Kid Defeated, OG Three Emperors gone ... etc
And this CD Elder, there are Four others like him, alongside Nine Holy Knights
Having One Gorosei showcase his True Power (Doesn't need to be defeated) isn't gonna be that shocking

Luffy fought Morgan, right? He fought Buggy, Kuro, Krieg, Arlong, Smoker, Mr. 5, Mr. 3, Wapol, Crocodile, Bellamy, Enel, Foxy, Lucci, Moria, Magellan, Sengoku, Hody, Caesar, Doflamingo, Big Mom, Kaidou

The only time Luffy didn't Fight a Group's Leader was in Zou, but the guy never reached the City, nor did Luffy interact with any of his Henchmen, so can't really call them SHs Villains (Even in Wano, They didn't meet Jack)

So if Luffy always Clash with Villainous Groups Leaders, why should Saturn be a Guaranteed Exception?
Anyone who says Luffy will Fight Saturn is a Good Guess even if it doesn't happen, and anyone who said Zoro might have faced Kizaru was also making a Normal Guess even if it doesn't happen, and the same for Sanji vs Lucci Guesses

And the worst part is that even if you believe Kizaru is this Arc's No. 1 Villain & Saturn not gonna Introduce himself, it still doesn't mean Zoro can't face him, as Zoro clashed with Main Villains before multiple times, so it's not that impossible

As i said before, i actually predicted Luffy vs Kizaru long ago, before Wano even ended, but there is no reason to shit on people who believed Zoro might face him too, it's as good a guess as People who maybe theorized in the past that Luffy might face Vergo or He may face Kuma in Thriller Bark or fight Big Mom in Whole Cake Island or Jack in Zou ... etc

Author tries to be unpredictable sometimes, but Luffy vs No. 1 & Zoro vs No. 2 are always normal guesses
you wrote an essay but I'll give one line

are admirals stronger than gorosei or did luffy defeat an admiral??
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The problem was the assumption that Saturn > Kizaru just because Kizaru is a marine and Saturn was a politician.

Now, it's not really a Spandam situation considering that Gorosei have probably a modicum of ability, but thinking that a bunch of decrepit dudes who sweat buckets when an Emperor just moves a finger are strong if not stronger than top tiers...yeah, bad take.
no the problem was that people didn't realize that luffy is yet to defeat an admiral one on one
 
#36
There's "return" sure.

But their portrayals as Luffy's "rivals" is flat-out dead.

They lost their chance at becoming PK.
Kidd? For sure.
Even though can still be one of the next "Emperors"/Great pirates.

Law? Are already 300 chapters he didn't want that anymore, has an objective related to Raftel and the OP, and he is a D.
Just like WB, his importance is not related to him being a competitor for the PK title.
Obviously, he won't be stronger than BB, just to say one, but is clear he'll have a great role, from being a D. to having, like I said, a dream related to the true story, the OP, and the meaning of the D.

And there is even the eternal youth/immortality operation.
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no the problem was that people didn't realize that luffy is yet to defeat an admiral one on one
That is also very true: the first Admiral, as the first Schici or the first Emperor, could only be defeated by Luffy.
 
#37
Kidd? For sure.
Even though can still be one of the next "Emperors"/Great pirates.

Law? Are already 300 chapters he didn't want that anymore, has an objective related to Raftel and the OP, and he is a D.
Just like WB, his importance is not related to him being a competitor for the PK title.
Obviously, he won't be stronger than BB, just to say one, but is clear he'll have a great role, from being a D. to having, like I said, a dream related to the true story, the OP, and the meaning of the D.

And there is even the eternal youth/immortality operation.
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That is also very true: the first Admiral, as the first Schici or the first Emperor, could only be defeated by Luffy.
If they didn't care about becoming PK, at least on Kid's part, Kid wouldn't be attacking so many emperors. He took the ponegylph from BMs commander dude.
 
#38
you wrote an essay but I'll give one line

are admirals stronger than gorosei or did luffy defeat an admiral??
I'm not trying to debate on Power Levels here, i'm telling you that both guesses are fine
Just cuz you believe Kizaru is Stronger than Saturn doesn't mean that it's okay to shit on People saying Luffy will Fight Fleet Leader & Zoro will Fight Fleet's No. 2 & Sanji Fights No. 3
 
#39
If they didn't care about becoming PK, at least on Kid's part, Kid wouldn't be attacking so many emperors. He took the ponegylph from BMs commander dude.
No no, Kidd definitely cared, but now he is out.
However, that doesn't stop him from becoming the next Emeperor/Great pirate in due time.

Probably this beating will give him a new purpose, as we have already seen with others.
 

AL sama

Red Haired
#40
I'm not trying to debate on Power Levels here, i'm telling you that both guesses are fine
Just cuz you believe Kizaru is Stronger than Saturn doesn't mean that it's okay to shit on People saying Luffy will Fight Fleet Leader & Zoro will Fight Fleet's No. 2 & Sanji Fights No. 3
no no no I think satim is stronger

however my point is luffy is yet to defeat an admiral one on one

so zoeo doing it before luffy isn't logical
 
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