Break Week To all the people claiming Luffy used COA last chapter

[BlackLegFring]

Oh yes, now I see it!!!

Oda decided in chapter 1010:

"Let's change armament haki representation, for Luffy only, so lightning is always aCoC and not CoA anymore, when I spent a whole arc representing his CoA as lightning whenever it clashed with somebody else's, I will still represent CoA as lightning for the Scabbards, Jinbe, Ulti vs Usopp (even after 1010) because I'm a troll lol".

He also said:

"I'm doing this for admiral bros, so when they see Luffy clash with Kizaru, they will know it's aCoC and not CoA, because I stopped representing CoA from chapter 1010 for Luffy (the moment he learned aCoC and realized he couldn't use regular CoA against Kaido anymore -> no regular CoA clashes anymore against Kaido but aCoC only -> regular CoA clashes were replaced by aCoC clashes), when I still did it for others, I will not make it clear it's aCoC, I will draw nothing that I drew for all of the other aCoC panels (skies splitting, thick lightning trail), I will purposedly confuse the fandom that is mainly teenagers but only admiral fans will know".

You are right.

I really wonder how I did not realize this sooner.

@MonsterKaido @RebelliousSoma @Durableguy @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @Kerkovian I think I saw the light.

Lmao! Buddy tried to call back up from the usual suspects!

And by the way, your comment is an actual example of a strawman.

Again, I don’t know how simple I can make someone else’s argument for you.

It’s just an observation that in the Egghead Arc, Oda has refrained from using it for plain CoA…so it’s possible that the one time Oda actually uses it for one of Luffy’s attacks, he’s trying to use it for distinguishing.
Not sure why that has you so upset.

Even in your silly reply you are still doing the exact same problem of using irrelevant detractions.
Wiwi is talking about just Luffy, yet you’re still trying to include every other character.
You’ve also taken it personal, that Oda is doing it for “Admiral bros” when that’s completely irrelevant to the point. Can you not think logically at all without hate for the Admirals occupying your brain? The criteria has nothing to do with them at all.

Oda’s inconsistency is not a direct insult to you, nor is he doing it for “Admiral bros” like you seem to think. No one knows, including the “Admiral bros” you hate.
It benefits no one and is a mess that only he bears the fault for. Don’t go projecting it on people that like characters you hate. Be an adult for goodness’ sake.

Edit: also, Luffy didn’t clash with Kizaru. Kizaru is simply blocking while the attack is all Luffy, hence the effect is only trailing from Luffy. Even that was apparently an issue for you to understand. Yet you’re complaining about “sky splitting” when no one is even saying Kizaru is using CoC. That’s how razzled you are, smh.

 

[Z-Saber]

Lmao! Buddy tried to call back up from the usual suspects!

And by the way, your comment is an actual example of a strawman.

Again, I don’t know how simple I can make someone else’s argument for you.

It’s just an observation that in the Egghead Arc, Oda has refrained from using it for plain CoA…so it’s possible that the one time Oda actually uses it for one of Luffy’s attacks, he’s trying to use it for distinguishing.
Not sure why that has you so upset.

Even in your silly reply you are still doing the exact same problem of using irrelevant detractions.
Wiwi is talking about just Luffy, yet you’re still trying to include every other character.
You’ve also taken it personal, that Oda is doing it for “Admiral bros” when that’s completely irrelevant to the point. Can you not think logically at all without hate for the Admirals occupying your brain? The criteria has nothing to do with them at all.

Oda’s inconsistency is not a direct insult to you, nor is he doing it for “Admiral bros” like you seem to think. No one knows, including the “Admiral bros” you hate.
It benefits no one and is a mess that only he bears the fault for. Don’t go projecting it on people that like characters you hate. Be an adult for goodness’ sake.

Honestly it'd be pretty silly for oda to make that stylistic change for Luffy only when normal CoA has been depicted generating lighting countless amounts of time now, including Luffy. CoC coating has been consistently shown 90% of the time to generate much thicker and longer lighting. His kick on Kizaru just doesn't seem like it fits the bill.

 

[Dragon777]

Honestly it'd be pretty silly for Oda to make that stylistic change for Luffy only when normal CoA has been depicted generating lighting countless amounts of time now, including Luffy. CoC coating has been consistently shown 90% of the time to generate much thicker and longer lighting. His kick on Kizaru just doesn't seem like it fits the bill.

It's the type of lightning that "goes in the direction" of the user, and so seems CoC. And, by the way, has of the scene of the G5 has lightning as thick as we are seeing now:

But we'll see.

This is just the beginning.

 

[BlackLegFring]

Honestly it'd be pretty silly for oda to make that stylistic change for Luffy only when normal CoA has been depicted generating lighting countless amounts of time now, including Luffy. CoC coating has been consistently shown 90% of the time to generate much thicker and longer lighting. His kick on Kizaru just doesn't seem like it fits the bill.

It was pretty silly for Oda to create the problem in the first place with the inconsistent depiction, but here we are.

I didn’t want to devolve into this because of the obvious inconsistencies, but for most of the gear 5 fight, Oda uses the same thickness for CoC attacks, so that alone doesn’t mean much.
You can find those in this thread, like when Luffy planted his fist in Kaido’s head.
It’s also besides the point because OP’s observation was that Oda didn’t include any lightning in regular armament attacks for Luffy throughout the arc. So is it unreasonable to say that the one time that Oda then decided to do so was meant to highlight a difference?

I don’t see an issue with that. It’s logically sound if anything else, but it also doesn’t make it definite either. It could still be yes or no. Anyone saying it is definitely one or the other like Pringles though would have to come up with something that actually addresses the point…not keep detracting to instances in other arcs before it was even an issue causing headaches for everyone.

 

[Z-Saber]

It's the type of lightning that "went in the direction" of the user, and so seems CoC. And, by the way, has of the scene of the G5 has lightning as thick as we are seeing now:




But we'll see.

This is just the beginning.

It looks a little more potent to me in these panels where both Luffy and Kaido are using it but that could be me over analyzing things. You're right though, it's only the beginning. If he's not using it now then he'll use it later. I'm not even sure why there's such a debate over this.

 

[Pringles]

It was pretty silly for Oda to create the problem in the first place with the inconsistent depiction, but here we are.

I didn’t want to devolve into this because of the obvious inconsistencies, but for most of the gear 5 fight, Oda uses the same thickness for CoC attacks, so that alone doesn’t mean much.
You can find those in this thread, like when Luffy planted his fist in Kaido’s head.
It’s also besides the point because OP’s observation was that Oda didn’t include any lightning in regular armament attacks for Luffy throughout the arc. So is it unreasonable to say that the one time that Oda then decided to do so was meant to highlight a difference?

I don’t see an issue with that. It’s logically sound if anything else, but it also doesn’t make it definite either. It could still be yes or no. Anyone saying it is definitely one or the other like Pringles though would have to come up with something that actually addresses the point…not keep detracting to instances in other arcs before it was even an issue causing headaches for everyone.

1. Oda stopped representing casual CoA clashes for Luffy since chapter 1010, because Luffy actually realized that he needed aCoC to fight Kaido. Black lightning from CoA comes when 2 users with CoA clash together. This hasn't happened since chapter 1010 for Luffy, because well, he realized that he needed aCoC against Kaido.

CHAPTER 1010. Luffy realizes Kaido coats himself with conqueror's so he starts using it.

Spoiler: Manga

2. Oda still represented CoA clashes with lightning after chapter 1010 for the other characters that did not use aCoC. Yet, you ignore this fact just to serve your agenda.

CHAPTER 1018. Regular CoA clash between Jinbe and Who's Who is still black lightning, not as thick as aCoC's.

Spoiler: Manga

3. There is nothing in the Luffy vs Kizaru panel indicating that it's aCoC. The skies don't split, the lightning is not thick and trailing, literally nothing. On the other hand, when you compare this panel to all of the instances of regular CoA clashes, you see that the black lightning is similar. If Oda wanted it to be aCoC, he would have made it extremely obvious, like all of the other instances of aCoC. Even Roger vs Whitebeard, which was BEFORE chapter 1010, was represented like Luffy's aCoC thick lightning and like Shanks' divine departure. This alone contradicts your whole argument on "Oda changing haki representation after 1010" since well, Oda was already using aCoC representation BEFORE 1010.

CHAPTER 966. Roger vs Whitebead. Oda drew conqueror's coating with thick lightning that trails behind the sword.

Spoiler: Manga

CHAPTER 1010. Luffy uses conqueror's coating against Kaido. Oda drew thick black lightning that trails behind Luffy's fist.

Spoiler: Manga

 

[Z-Saber]

So is it unreasonable to say that the one time that Oda then decided to do so was meant to highlight a difference?

I think given the history of how CoA has been depicted that its unlikely to be the case but it is possible. Besides, that ulti panel is still a pretty big elephant in the room if you ignore the fact that it's a clash.

I don’t see an issue with that. It’s logically sound if anything else, but it also doesn’t make it definite either. It could still be yes or no. Anyone saying it is definitely one or the other like Pringles though would have to come up with something that actually addresses the point…not keep detracting to instances in other arcs before it was even an issue causing headaches for everyone.

It is very hard to say with 100% certainty one way or the other, I agree with that. Personally I lean towards it being CoA since it has a long history of being depicted with smaller sparks while CoC normally is more potent. It doesn't really even matter since we know admirals are definitely capable of taking CoC attacks after garp vs kuzan and kizaru is starting to look like the defensive specialist amongst the admirals.

 

[Dragon777]

It looks a little more potent to me in these panels where both Luffy and Kaido are using it but that could be me over analyzing things. You're right though, it's only the beginning. If he's not using it now then he'll use it later. I'm not even sure why there's such a debate over this.

To me they are very similar (the black lightnings are still longer than the entire Luffy, just like those scenes, and as I said they goes back in the direction of the user), but yeah; who cares lol.

This debate is only alive because of the Admiral vs Emperor thing, the old misconception of Admirals without good haki...and the break weak.

We will see so much more, so it is useless debating now.

 

[BlackLegFring]

1. Oda stopped representing casual CoA clashes for Luffy since chapter 1010, because Luffy actually realized that he needed aCoC to fight Kaido. Black lightning from CoA comes when 2 users with CoA clash together. This hasn't happened since chapter 1010 for Luffy, because well, he realized that he needed aCoC against Kaido.

2. Oda still represented CoA clashes with lightning after chapter 1010 for the other characters that did not use aCoC. Yet, you ignore this fact just to serve your agenda.

3. There is nothing in the Luffy vs Kizaru panel indicating that it's aCoC. The skies don't split, the lightning is not thick and trailing, literally nothing. On the other hand, when you compare this panel to all of the instances of regular CoA clashes, you see that the black lightning is similar. If Oda wanted it to be aCoC, he would have made it extremely obvious, like all of the other instances of aCoC. Even Roger vs Whitebeard, which was BEFORE chapter 1010, was represented like Luffy's aCoC thick lightning and like Shanks' divine departure. This alone contradicts your whole argument on "Oda changing haki representation after 1010" since well, Oda was already using aCoC representation BEFORE 1010.

1. Now you’re just contradicting yourself. Oda uses black lightning for clashes even when CoA is not involved, or when only one person is a user like Ulti & Usopp (which you yourself mentioned ironically).

Oda didn’t use it for any of Luffy’s CoA attacks against the Seraphim throughout the arc. It’s only when Luffy is now attacking a logia that we see any lightning trailing his limbs.
That’s another point as well. If it were meant to be a simple armament display, then just touching a logia at all is already a sufficient indicator. Black lightning would be superfluous.

2. irrelevant. The topic was never other characters besides Luffy, so you only have yourself to blame for desperately clinging to that for some reason. Again, the topic is Luffy at Egghead. It’s not that hard. Neither do I have any agenda because As I already said, it doesn’t matter either way because Oda is inconsistent. Don’t project your childish agenda nonsense on me please. You’re the one trying to make a definite claim here and so upset with the alternative.

3. Again, irrelevant crap. Sky splitting is when 2 CoC users are using it. Why would the sky split if only Luffy is using it? And they aren’t even clashing attacks?
Lightning just as thick as the Kizaru panel has already been used several times to show Luffy using it, like when he implants his fist in Kaido’s face. Just another irrelevant detraction.
Also, it’s not my argument because I think panel nitpicking has always been pointless. WB & Roger is irrelevant when the topic is Luffy at Egghead.
It’s also pointless either way since we don’t see the lead up to the panel, only Luffy’s attack because it’s supposed to be a sudden interruption of Kizaru greeting him.

Don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to stay on topic.
It’s. Not. Hard. Why did you think that Oda refrained from putting lightning on Luffy’s attacks until that panel in the arc? It’s not rocket science. You can even claim it’s just a random mistake on his part if you somehow find that satisfying…
Not whining that Oda’s out to get you or about “Admiral bros.” That just screams insecurity.

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I think given the history of how CoA has been depicted that its unlikely to be the case but it is possible. Besides, that ulti panel is still a pretty big elephant in the room if you ignore the fact that it's a clash.

It is very hard to say with 100% certainty one way or the other, I agree with that. Personally I lean towards it being CoA since it has a long history of being depicted with smaller sparks while CoC normally is more potent. It doesn't really even matter since we know admirals are definitely capable of taking CoC attacks after garp vs kuzan and kizaru is starting to look like the defensive specialist amongst the admirals.

Even the Ulti panel is visibly different, so I don’t think that matters much. There it’s a clash with both of them head butting each other, so it’s the stereotypical clash effect.

In the Kizaru panel however, the lightning is only trailing Luffy and longer and thicker (though I loathe that particular nitpicking, lol).

Yeah, it doesn’t matter, but some people are trying to pretend it’s a definite answer when Oda’s inconsistency is just business as usual. There’s no objective criteria, so no definite claims can be made, only reasonable observations.
Noting that Oda didn’t put it for Luffy using CoA previously in the arc but is using it for the first time now is a reasonable observation to me. It’s not based on measuring thickness or instances before the ability was even created which I find useless for this.

 

[Pringles]

1. Now you’re just contradicting yourself. Oda uses black lightning for clashes even when CoA is not involved, or when only one person is a user like Ulti & Usopp (which you yourself mentioned ironically).

Oda didn’t use it for any of Luffy’s CoA attacks against the Seraphim throughout the arc. It’s only when Luffy is now attacking a logia that we see any lightning trailing his limbs.
That’s another point as well. If it were meant to be a simple armament display, then just touching a logia at all is already a sufficient indicator. Black lightning would be superfluous.

2. irrelevant. The topic was never other characters besides Luffy, so you only have yourself to blame for desperately clinging to that for some reason. Again, the topic is Luffy at Egghead. It’s not that hard. Neither do I have any agenda because As I already said, it doesn’t matter either way because Oda is inconsistent. Don’t project your childish agenda nonsense on me please. You’re the one trying to make a definite claim here and so upset with the alternative.

3. Again, irrelevant crap. Sky splitting is when 2 CoC users are using it. Why would the sky split if only Luffy is using it?
Lightning just as thick as the Kizaru panel has already been used several times to show Luffy using it, like when he implants his fist in Kaido’s face. Just another irrelevant detraction.
Also, it’s not my argument because I think panel nitpicking has always been pointless. WB & Roger is irrelevant when the topic is Luffy at Egghead.
It’s also pointless either way since we don’t see the lead up to the panel, only Luffy’s attack because it’s supposed to be a sudden interruption of Kizaru greeting him.

Don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to stay on topic.
It’s. Not. Hard. Why did you think that Oda refrained from putting lightning on Luffy’s attacks until that panel in the arc? It’s not rocket science. You can even claim it’s just a random mistake on his part if you somehow find that satisfying…

I've got enough of discussing this with you, it's exhausting.

Keep deluding yourself into believing this nonsense.

I'm afraid there is nothing I can do at this point.

 

[BlackLegFring]

I've got enough of discussing this with you, it's exhausting.

Keep deluding yourself into believing this nonsense.

I'm afraid there is nothing I can do at this point.

LMAO.
Yeah, that’s a logical, well reasoned answer that addresses the argument at hand.
It’s certainly not a childish response from someone that’s upset that they can’t understand an argument no matter how easily it’s spelt out for them…still running back to Dressrosa even now for an observation in Egghead.

You’re really also going to deny that Oda is inconsistent with it? That’s the hill you’re choosing to die on when even those you ran crying to believe he is?
Bravo! You’re a regular Rootbeer-certified master of Haki analysis!

 

[Pringles]

LMAO.
Yeah, that’s a logical, well reasoned answer that addresses the argument at hand.
It’s certainly not a childish response from someone that’s upset that they can’t understand an argument no matter how easily it’s spelt out for them.

You’re really also going to deny that Oda is inconsistent with it? That’s the bill you’re choosing to die on when even those you ran crying to believe he is?
Bravo! You’re a regular Rootbeer-certified master of Haki analysis!

You deserve the same energy that you have been giving me the whole time.

I addressed the argument but nothing that I bring will change your mind because you are just too blind to understand what I'm saying.

This isn't an opinion that you have, it's a belief, it's a religion. You are simply unable to view it in a rational manner. You will use all the arguments at hand to justify your belief, as irrational as they are. It's too much to consider that there may even be a substantial argument in the first place.

I'm not going to invest any more energy into that, it's pointless. All the panels I brought, you always found a reason to decline them. "This was before 1010", "this wasn't Luffy"... Even when I showed you that Oda already represented conqueror's coating with a thick black lightning that trails behind the weapon in chapter 966, as an argument to tell you that Oda knew before chapter 1010 what conqueror's coating would resemble, you still denied that.

What am I even supposed to argue?

You deny everything I say because it goes against your agenda.

The fact that you say that Oda is inconsistent (he isn't) and that everyone and their mother's CoA but Luffy's is "thin lightning" is worrisome.

The fact that you are not even willing to question your belief is worrisome.

I will not discuss this further because there is nothing to discuss. I'm willing to discuss with people who have an opinion and are open to discuss and question it, not a belief that they won't change.

I'm willing to acknowledge your opinion if you bring me solid evidence that supports it. Lack of evidence has never been evidence and you choosing what panels are evidence is not an argument at all. All that you have been doing so far is just declining my panels, talking with no substantial arguments, and insulting me. Another common point that you share with Wiwi.

 

[BlackLegFring]

I addressed the argument but nothing that I bring will change your mind because you are just too blind to understand what I'm saying.

This isn't an opinion that you have, it's a belief, it's a religion. You are simply unable to view it in a rational manner. You will use all the arguments at hand to justify your belief, as irrational as they are.

I'm not going to invest any more energy into that, it's pointless. All the panels I brought, you always found a reason to decline them. "This was before 1010", "this wasn't Luffy"... Even when I showed you that Oda already represented conqueror's coating with a thick black lightning that trails behind the weapon in chapter 966, as an argument to tell you that Oda knew before chapter 1010 what conqueror's coating would resemble, you still denied that.

What am I even supposed to argue?

You deny everything I say because it goes against your agenda.

The fact that you say that Oda is inconsistent (he isn't) and that everyone and their mother's CoA but Luffy's is "thin lightning" is worrisome.

The fact that you are not even willing to question your belief is worrisome.

I will not discuss this further because there is nothing to discuss. I'm willing to discuss with people who have an opinion and are open to discuss and question it, not a belief that they won't change.

There’s no saving face or pretending here buddy.
You didn’t address anything. Even in your most recent comment you are still appealing to Dressrosa when the topic is depictions in Egghead.
All you’ve done is either try to circumvent the point or misunderstood completely.

You’re whining about sky splitting for goodness’ sake, in a moment that’s not even a clash and where only 1 person could be using it.

You are then projecting your nonsense on me when you are the one making a definite claim and being unwavering about it.
I already said right from the start that it could be either option because Oda is simply inconsistent. You’re the one who has made a religion of it and are even accusing Oda himself or Admiral bros as personally targeting you. Ridiculous.

You’re cherry-picking and then whining that people aren’t ignoring the other examples, like Luffy’s arm not having any trail or thick lightning when he implanted his fist in Kaido’s face right after Kaido said he’s using it. You’re only deluding yourself if you think every instance is the same. You can go crying to those you mentioned like @MonsterKaido who themselves think Oda is simply inconsistent.
Stop trying to make it my problem.

You keep whining about agenda when you’re the only one here with one. Most people have said it’s fine either way. You’re the one that won’t accept anything else for an answer. It has to be exactly what you say it is. That’s the epitome of childishness.

Your comment just gets funnier when everything you say only applies to you. You’re the one unwilling to question your belief. I’m the one saying it could be anything regardless of what I believe.

It’s like living in the damn twilight zone. Do you have no shred of self-awareness whatsoever? Are you 10 years old or something?

 

[Pringles]

You didn’t address anything. Even in your most recent comment you are still appealing to Dressrosa when the topic is depictions in Egghead.
All you’ve done is either try to circumvent the point or misunderstood completely.

I'm surprised you didn't even read the thread title and the thread itself. Now I understand better the replies to my messages, did you read them or did you also speedread them like you speedread this thread? Did you miss the point of this thread and are projecting it on me?

The least you could do is read the thread, don't you think so?

Title of the thread:
To all the people claiming Luffy used COA last chapter

Thread:
Explain why Oda has been consistently drawing Luffy’s COA only turning the body part black as visual effect since Wano started?

Even again Kaido on the rooftop, where he was angry for what he did to the scabbards had no reason to hold back his haki output he didn’t start showing black lightning til he unlocked COC coating

I will not answer the rest of your message, you are just being rude and insulting me. That's the best you can do at this point.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

It ain't even just from Egghead. From the start of Wano (So when he likely planned he was handing aCoC to his MC) Oda has never depicted Luffy's COA with black lightning, even when we know for a fact he used advanced COA against Kaido and had no reason to not maximize his output. Egghead is just Oda continuing to follow that pattern with the Seraphims fight.

Only two exceptions are in case of direct clashes where it comes from both side (headbutt vs headbutt agains Ulti and thin lighting when fist vs fist againt Lucci), i will not nitpick how they don't stretch long.

If one wanna argue Oda was depicting a clash last chapter even though Kizaru is simply doing a block without any visible haki and the black lightning clearly (if you're not blind) only comes from Luffy's foot, be my guest. But I will not be able to take you seriously.

 

[BlackLegFring]

I'm surprised you didn't even read the thread title and the thread itself. Now I understand better the replies to my messages, did you read them or did you also speedread them like you speedread this thread? Did you miss the point of this thread and are projecting it on me?

The least you could do is read the thread, don't you think so?

Title of the thread:
To all the people claiming Luffy used COA last chapter

Thread:
Explain why Oda has been consistently drawing Luffy’s COA only turning the body part black as visual effect since Wano started?

Even again Kaido on the rooftop, where he was angry for what he did to the scabbards had no reason to hold back his haki output he didn’t start showing black lightning til he unlocked COC coating

I will not answer the rest of your message, you are just being rude and insulting me. That's the best you can do at this point.

If you see me pointing out your incorrect comments, bizarre accusations and terribly irrelevant responses as “insulting” you, then you only have yourself to blame.

I mean…you have the audacity to appeal to the thread description while you’re still RUNNING BACK TO DRESSROSA EVEN NOW, and acting like all caps will change how silly such responses are.

I can just as well say that you are being rude, projecting your nonsense agendas on me and accusing me of making a religion out of it when you’re the one being intractable while I’ve said from the very FIRST comment that it’s fine either way for me.

Get outta here with your pitiful attempt of trying to play victim. You even childishly tried to call for backup when making a strawman of my argument…only for one of the people you called to make the exact same mistake you did with running to Dressrosa which is off topic from the very thread you yourself just posted and highlighted in caps, bold and underlined. SMH

All you’ve done is embarrass yourself because everyone else could have a civil discussion even in disagreement, like @Z-Saber. Go read their comments to see how it’s done, and maybe you’ll learn something.

 

[Pringles]

It ain't even just from Egghead. From the start of Wano (So when he likely planned he was handing aCoC to his MC) Oda has never depicted Luffy's COA with black lightning, even when we know for a fact he used advanced COA against Kaido and had no reason to not maximize his output. Egghead is just Oda continuing to follow that pattern with the Seraphims fight.

Only two exceptions are in case of direct clashes where it comes from both side (headbutt vs headbutt agains Ulti and thin lighting when fist vs fist againt Lucci), i will not nitpick how they don't stretch long.

If one wanna argue Oda was depicting a clash last chapter even though Kizaru is simply doing a block without any visible haki and the black lightning clearly (if you're not blind) only comes from Luffy's foot, be my guest. But I will not be able to take you seriously.

We can't tell much about it being a clash or a one-sided attack. Luffy is wearing a boot, Kizaru has a sleeve on the arm that clashes with Luffy.

If you look at Luffy vs Ulti, the haki is very regional and you don't see it cover the whole forehead.

Does this necessarily mean that they clashed their CoAs? I don't know.

I will not repeat my previous arguments, you already read them.

As I said, in my eyes, this changes nothing to Kizaru's portrayal that it was CoA and not aCoC, it's a first clash and I'm not downplaying him.

Don't you think, as an admiral fan, that the first time an admiral uses aCoC in the series should be hypier than this panel and potentially involve sky splitting?

If you see me pointing out your incorrect comments, bizarre accusations and terribly irrelevant responses as “insulting” you, then you only have yourself to blame.

I mean…you have the audacity to appeal to the thread description while you’re still RUNNING BACK TO DRESSROSA EVEN NOW, and acting like all caps will change how silly such responses are.

I can just as well say that you are being rude, projecting your nonsense agendas on me and accusing me of making a religion out of it when you’re the one being intractable while I’ve said from the very FIRST comment that it’s fine either way for me.

Get outta here with your pitiful attempt of trying to play victim. You even childishly tried to call for backup when making a strawman of my argument…only for one of the people you called to make the exact same mistake you did with running to Dressrosa which is off topic from the very thread you yourself just posted and highlighted in caps, bold and underlined. SMH

All you’ve done is embarrass yourself because everyone else could have a civil discussion even in disagreement, like @Z-Saber. Go read their comments to see how it’s done, and maybe you’ll learn something.

Look, I can't keep this going on.

We are getting mad for no reason in the heat of the discussion.

Did I start it? Did you start it? I don't know.

Let's just leave it there and move on.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Nah bro clearly Sabo has ACoC because it helps my agenda if I claim he has ACoC over something that is very clearly a showcase of Armament

 

[BlackLegFring]

Nah bro clearly Sabo has ACoC because it helps my agenda if I claim he has ACoC over something that is very clearly a showcase of Armament

This is just very ironic considering the last couple of pages of discussion and pointless detractions irrelevant to the point.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

This is just very ironic considering the last couple of pages of discussion and pointless detractions irrelevant to the point.

Do you ever go outside