Questions & Mysteries What if the One Piece is just an elaborate folk tale

#1
Call it what you want. A troll, a fairy tale, false hope, whatever.

Maybe it's there to make people chase after their dreams. Roger reached Laugh Tale and the treasure he found probably was just a strawhat with a message saying "fooled you"! Then he realized the real treasure was the journey and the friends he made along the way.

There's nothing even hinting that it's an ancient weapon.

I can't refute the log pose theory someone else posted, but does it really have to be that? Surely within a 1000 years someone else might have accidentally discovered the treasure Island. Also Imu would have know the original location or any particular ancient weapons of interest, but never went after the One Piece knowing it's a myth.

If Oda were smart he'd even introduce to the world of one Piece some fact checkers opposing Morgan and spreading lies to the people telling them it's all made up, if the treasure is real that is.
 
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#4
Lie Tale
Laugh Tale
Nothing Happened
When do you think a Person truly Dies?
Anyone can be a D.
People's Dreams Never End
CD's are this World's Creators
Blackbeard Never Slept
Miss Goldenweek's Colors represent Dreams
Sun God Nika is White (Absence of Color)
Are those Holograms Not-Real if you can't tell the Difference?
Brag Men's Book
... etc

And i can literally add dozens of other Clues
One Piece World is "Fake"

Almost Everything we've seen so far is Fake (Nothing Happened)
But what stays is the change that Luffy created in People's Hearts
Meaning their Dreams & Final Achievements gonna remain, but entire Scenarios so far are just Tales, could be True, could be Lies

That's what One Piece is and why it's described as "Everything this World has to Offer", cuz that's indeed what it is
 
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#5
  1. One Piece is the treasure Roger created on his piracy life. Not one single treasure he found when he reached Laugh Tale.
  2. People called it One Piece. Not Roger himself.
  3. Roger said that you would have to search all over the world for his treasure. So there is a possibility of it being in more than one place not all together in a single one just like Big Mom asked if part of One Piece was at Wano.
  4. One Piece being at Laugh Tale is pure speculation.
My bet is that One Piece is the whole World, friends and connections that Roger made. Everything that he left for the new generation. Not only his experience but how he shaped the world on his presence and after he left.

"But Oda said One Piece would be a real treasure" Oda is full of shit. You can't trust pirates just like you can't trust someone that talks about them.
 
#7
Lie Tale
Laugh Tale
Nothing Happened
When do you think a Person truly Dies?
Anyone can be a D.
People's Dreams Never End
CD's are this World's Creators
Blackbeard Never Slept
Miss Goldenweek's Colors represent Dreams
Sun God Nika is White (Absence of Color)
Are those Holograms Not-Real if you can't tell the Difference?
Brag Men's Book
... etc
Lie Tale
Did I speedread a part?
Laugh Tale
How is this a hint?
Nothing Happened
Never thought of it. But it's surprisingly striking. For luffy and almost everyone else nothing really happened.
When do you think a Person truly Dies?
Nice reference
Anyone can be a D.
Can you tell me the reference? I remember reading it but couldn't find it again
People's Dreams Never End
Blackbeard Never Slept
So... Blackbeard has no dreams. Kinda has a touch of matrix.
Miss Goldenweek's Colors represent Dreams
Sun God Nika is White (Absence of Color)
So... The sun God also has no dreams? Like BB?
Are those Holograms Not-Real if you can't tell the Difference?
Nice reference
Brag Men's Book
Read that often but I don't see a reference.

All in all, surprisingly interesting. Oda planted those time bombs all over the manga it seems
 
#8
The Demiurge's servants?
Think of it this way, One Piece World is created or modified using Haki, it's like a Matrix or Dream World where the Ink is Haki
(Oda basically Hinted at this in SBS when He talked about Energy responsible for everything in Universe)

Rayleigh said every Living Being has Haki inside them, what is it's Purpose?
It is what allows all of them to Live in this World & Interact with it
(Similar to Vegapunk's Light Gloves, They allow them to interact with Holograms, it's just that with OPVerse People, They have it Naturally)

This is also even though "Souls" exist in One Piece World & They are indeed Source of Life, Haki can also Kill a Person
As Luffy & later Zoro also confirmed that if you Spend your entire Haki, You will Die, so this Haki Energy is indeed related to Ability to Live in this World

It's also why Haoshoku Haki Victims lose their Senses & Pass Out, it's cuz They encounter an Overwhelming Charge of Haki, that They are unable to withstand, it's like They get Disconnected from The World (Like a GPU unable to run a Game)

Originally, those who Learned how to Harness their Haki Energy, were able to Use it in Three Ways, CoO, CoA & CoC (Actually the Fact They are called "Colors" is another Hint that this entire World is Fake & Haki is shaping it, just like Miss Goldenweek Colors can modify both Emotions & Appearances)

CoO pushes your Awarness even further allowing to not just sense the World as Normal People do, but also Haki itself, hence why They are able to Detect Power Levels, Presence, some Intentions ... etc. Then We have CoA which allows you to cover yourself or what you touch in Haki, which if you ignore DFs (Who didn't always exist) is pretty much Useless cuz what would this Ability unable you to touch before DFs existed?
It's none other than Haki Beings. And finally CoC allows you to rule over Haki, in other words such Beings

So Overall, i believe there exists a Race of Beings made of Pure Haki, and based on what i just explained, They are naturally considered "World Creators" cuz They are made of what Shapes/Controls it, They were seen as Gods by some & feared by others (And We did see them in Skypiea, when Conis showed them how They shaped Vearth that They worship, it was in a Form of a Devilish Being)

I can give you Dozens of Hints from every Single Arc about these Devils & how Oda is preparing for their Major Introduction, but let's just say that Imu & Gorosei Transformation wasn't from Zoan Fruits, it was their True Devilish Forms cuz They are Celestial Dragons (Also called Creators & Gods) and that's why Sabo (A Logia) was Extremely Hurt by Imu's Attack, Imu wasn't applying Haki on his Attack, it was a Tail made of Pure Haki

As for Devil Fruits? They have those Swirling Patterns which are the same as Vinsmoke Family Eyebrows which Oda explained is same as Circular Energy that runs the Universe, so Devil Fruits are like Mini-Worlds in themselves, like Mini-Dreams (Which Vegapunk basically confirmed) and They are created using a Devil (Sentient Haki) + People's Dreams (Which are taken by Imu from People's Wealth AKA Heavenly Tribute & those 16 Bullets References are based on Theory of 16 Desires, meaning CDs steal People's Desires/Dreams for their own Twisted Plans)

So when someone eats a DF, They are basically gaining the ability to shape the World just like that Devil inside them and it's only limited to one power, it's like They have a Mini-Dream inside them which They can apply on Reality, and They can't eat a Second DF, cuz u can't have Two Dreams (Simultaneously), or as Jabra hinted at (Two Devils will Fight each other killing the Host)

And the reason They are weak in Water, is cuz it's their Source, The Devils inside DF Users gain power when submerged in Water which makes User unable to control their Body properly, which indicates that Devils & Haki belong in The Sea, it's like their Mother Source (Hence why We heard the word Sea Devil very often)

And think about it, if the Sea acquires all DF Powers, which is basically Ability to turn anything into Reality cuz you would be able to create Life (Zoans) + any Type of Land & Environment & Weather (Logia + Paramecia), so technically the Sea would be able to create Islands with infinite possibilities, so any Sailor can find any Island They dream of, it's like there is a Heaven for anyone (Any Dreamer)

But The Sea by itself can't do all this, it needs a Soul, a Willpower, someone who represents "Sea God" himself and controls it, in other words "The Dreamer" himself, the Person who would lead the World & create a Reality where everyone can share their Dreams, no need to take from others & hurt them so that you get what you want (Which is what every Villain Plot is about)

This Dreamer is none other than Blackbeard, meaning They are currently in Nightmarish Version of Story, and He never sleeps cuz how can anyone be asleep in their own Dream World? And Now Luffy is on Journey to change everything, or as Roger said once "Turn the World upside down" (One Piece means a Coin that has Two Sides)

I've talked too much, but i just wanted to elaborate more about why i believe One Piece Story is much more complicated than people realize
 
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#9
  1. One Piece is the treasure Roger created on his piracy life. Not one single treasure he found when he reached Laugh Tale.
  2. People called it One Piece. Not Roger himself.
  3. Roger said that you would have to search all over the world for his treasure. So there is a possibility of it being in more than one place not all together in a single one just like Big Mom asked if part of One Piece was at Wano.
  4. One Piece being at Laugh Tale is pure speculation.
My bet is that One Piece is the whole World, friends and connections that Roger made. Everything that he left for the new generation. Not only his experience but how he shaped the world on his presence and after he left.

"But Oda said One Piece would be a real treasure" Oda is full of shit. You can't trust pirates just like you can't trust someone that talks about them.
No way you believe this
 
#12
Think of it this way, One Piece World is created or modified using Haki, it's like a Matrix or Dream World where the Ink is Haki
(Oda basically Hinted at this in SBS when He talked about Energy responsible for everything in Universe)

Rayleigh said every Living Being has Haki inside them, what is it's Purpose?
It is what allows all of them to Live in this World & Interact with it
(Similar to Vegapunk's Light Gloves, They allow them to interact with Holograms, it's just that with OPVerse People, They have it Naturally)

This is also even though "Souls" exist in One Piece World & They are indeed Source of Life, Haki can also Kill a Person
As Luffy & later Zoro also confirmed that if you Spend your entire Haki, You will Die, so this Haki Energy is indeed related to Ability to Live in this World

It's also why Haoshoku Haki Victims lose their Senses & Pass Out, it's cuz They encounter an Overwhelming Charge of Haki, that They are unable to withstand, it's like They get Disconnected from The World (Like a GPU unable to run a Game)

Originally, those who Learned how to Harness their Haki Energy, were able to Use it in Three Ways, CoO, CoA & CoC (Actually the Fact They are called "Colors" is another Hint that this entire World is Fake & Haki is shaping it, just like Miss Goldenweek Colors can modify both Emotions & Appearances)

CoO pushes your Awarness even further allowing to not just sense the World as Normal People do, but also Haki itself, hence why They are able to Detect Power Levels, Presence, some Intentions ... etc. Then We have CoA which allows you to cover yourself or what you touch in Haki, which if you ignore DFs (Who didn't always exist) is pretty much Useless cuz what would this Ability unable you to touch before DFs existed?
It's none other than Haki Beings. And finally CoC allows you to rule over Haki, in other words such Beings

So Overall, i believe there exists a Race of Beings made of Pure Haki, and based on what i just explained, They are naturally considered "World Creators" cuz They are made of what Shapes/Controls it, They were seen as Gods by some & feared by others (And We did see them in Skypiea, when Conis showed them how They shaped Vearth that They worship, it was in a Form of a Devilish Being)

I can give you Dozens of Hints from every Single Arc about these Devils & how Oda is preparing for their Major Introduction, but let's just say that Imu & Gorosei Transformation wasn't from Zoan Fruits, it was their True Devilish Forms cuz They are Celestial Dragons (Also called Creators & Gods) and that's why Sabo (A Logia) was Extremely Hurt by Imu's Attack, Imu wasn't applying Haki on his Attack, it was a Tail made of Pure Haki

As for Devil Fruits? They have those Swirling Patterns which are the same as Vinsmoke Family Eyebrows which Oda explained is same as Circular Energy that runs the Universe, so Devil Fruits are like Mini-Worlds in themselves, like Mini-Dreams (Which Vegapunk basically confirmed) and They are created using a Devil (Sentient Haki) + People's Dreams (Which are taken by Imu from People's Wealth AKA Heavenly Tribute & those 16 Bullets References are based on Theory of 16 Desires, meaning CDs steal People's Desires/Dreams for their own Twisted Plans)

So when someone eats a DF, They are basically gaining the ability to shape the World just like that Devil inside them and it's only limited to one power, it's like They have a Mini-Dream inside them which They can apply on Reality, and They can't eat a Second DF, cuz u can't have Two Dreams (Simultaneously), or as Jabra hinted at (Two Devils will Fight each other killing the Host)

And the reason They are weak in Water, is cuz it's their Source, The Devils inside DF Users gain power when submerged in Water which makes User unable to control their Body properly, which indicates that Devils & Haki belong in The Sea, it's like their Mother Source (Hence why We heard the word Sea Devil very often)

And think about it, if the Sea acquires all DF Powers, which is basically Ability to turn anything into Reality cuz you would be able to create Life (Zoans) + any Type of Land & Environment & Weather (Logia + Paramecia), so technically the Sea would be able to create Islands with infinite possibilities, so any Sailor can find any Island They dream of, it's like there is a Heaven for anyone (Any Dreamer)

But The Sea by itself can't do all this, it needs a Soul, a Willpower, someone who represents "Sea God" himself and controls it, in other words "The Dreamer" himself, the Person who would lead the World & create a Reality where everyone can share their Dreams, no need to take from others & hurt them so that you get what you want (Which is what every Villain Plot is about)

This Dreamer is none other than Blackbeard, meaning They are currently in Nightmarish Version of Story, and He never sleeps cuz how can anyone be asleep in their own Dream World? And Now Luffy is on Journey to change everything, or as Roger said once "Turn the World upside down" (One Piece means a Coin that has Two Sides)

I've talked too much, but i just wanted to elaborate more about why i believe One Piece Story is much more complicated than people realize
You stole the thread.

I was on about how the One Piece is there to inspire people to follow their dreams, but you took it to next level. LOL

I doubt you die if you spend all Haki. Or rather you pass out before you spend it all. Sort of like overexerting yourself makes you really fatigued tired, you can pass out, but it's hard to automatically die.

I can give you Dozens of Hints from every Single Arc about these Devils & how Oda is preparing for their Major Introduction, but let's just say that Imu & Gorosei Transformation wasn't from Zoan Fruits, it was their True Devilish Forms cuz They are Celestial Dragons (Also called Creators & Gods) and that's why Sabo (A Logia) was Extremely Hurt by Imu's Attack, Imu wasn't applying Haki on his Attack, it was a Tail made of Pure Haki
Sure share a few hints then.


No way you believe this
Maybe, maybe not. Everyone has their own headcanon(s).
 
#13
You stole the thread.

I was on about how the One Piece is there to inspire people to follow their dreams, but you took it to next level. LOL

I doubt you die if you spend all Haki. Or rather you pass out before you spend it all. Sort of like overexerting yourself makes you really fatigued tired, you can pass out, but it's hard to automatically die.
I hope you don't take it bad lol
I just type a lot when i want to explain something

Zoro did say that King of Hell Mode would Kill him & we've seen that when Enma sucks his Haki, his Hand became Mummified
So it seems that if someone's Haki is completely removed, They end up Dying (Or as i called it, Disconnect from OP Verse)
Sure share a few hints then.
I'm preparing a Super Mega Analysis on entire OP Story (Hopefully i will cover every single Mystery & Character without Exception)
So i think it's better if i leave all the Details for that, i only Post Hints so far about the Ideas i'm mixing in my head

I'm just waiting for End of Egghead Arc to confirm Identity of Certain Character (Who i believe is gonna make a Surprise Appearance soon, just like Mihawk showed up in Baratie) & then i will start writing my Theory
 
#14
Think of it this way, One Piece World is created or modified using Haki, it's like a Matrix or Dream World where the Ink is Haki
(Oda basically Hinted at this in SBS when He talked about Energy responsible for everything in Universe)

Rayleigh said every Living Being has Haki inside them, what is it's Purpose?
It is what allows all of them to Live in this World & Interact with it
(Similar to Vegapunk's Light Gloves, They allow them to interact with Holograms, it's just that with OPVerse People, They have it Naturally)

This is also even though "Souls" exist in One Piece World & They are indeed Source of Life, Haki can also Kill a Person
As Luffy & later Zoro also confirmed that if you Spend your entire Haki, You will Die, so this Haki Energy is indeed related to Ability to Live in this World

It's also why Haoshoku Haki Victims lose their Senses & Pass Out, it's cuz They encounter an Overwhelming Charge of Haki, that They are unable to withstand, it's like They get Disconnected from The World (Like a GPU unable to run a Game)

Originally, those who Learned how to Harness their Haki Energy, were able to Use it in Three Ways, CoO, CoA & CoC (Actually the Fact They are called "Colors" is another Hint that this entire World is Fake & Haki is shaping it, just like Miss Goldenweek Colors can modify both Emotions & Appearances)

CoO pushes your Awarness even further allowing to not just sense the World as Normal People do, but also Haki itself, hence why They are able to Detect Power Levels, Presence, some Intentions ... etc. Then We have CoA which allows you to cover yourself or what you touch in Haki, which if you ignore DFs (Who didn't always exist) is pretty much Useless cuz what would this Ability unable you to touch before DFs existed?
It's none other than Haki Beings. And finally CoC allows you to rule over Haki, in other words such Beings

So Overall, i believe there exists a Race of Beings made of Pure Haki, and based on what i just explained, They are naturally considered "World Creators" cuz They are made of what Shapes/Controls it, They were seen as Gods by some & feared by others (And We did see them in Skypiea, when Conis showed them how They shaped Vearth that They worship, it was in a Form of a Devilish Being)

I can give you Dozens of Hints from every Single Arc about these Devils & how Oda is preparing for their Major Introduction, but let's just say that Imu & Gorosei Transformation wasn't from Zoan Fruits, it was their True Devilish Forms cuz They are Celestial Dragons (Also called Creators & Gods) and that's why Sabo (A Logia) was Extremely Hurt by Imu's Attack, Imu wasn't applying Haki on his Attack, it was a Tail made of Pure Haki

As for Devil Fruits? They have those Swirling Patterns which are the same as Vinsmoke Family Eyebrows which Oda explained is same as Circular Energy that runs the Universe, so Devil Fruits are like Mini-Worlds in themselves, like Mini-Dreams (Which Vegapunk basically confirmed) and They are created using a Devil (Sentient Haki) + People's Dreams (Which are taken by Imu from People's Wealth AKA Heavenly Tribute & those 16 Bullets References are based on Theory of 16 Desires, meaning CDs steal People's Desires/Dreams for their own Twisted Plans)

So when someone eats a DF, They are basically gaining the ability to shape the World just like that Devil inside them and it's only limited to one power, it's like They have a Mini-Dream inside them which They can apply on Reality, and They can't eat a Second DF, cuz u can't have Two Dreams (Simultaneously), or as Jabra hinted at (Two Devils will Fight each other killing the Host)

And the reason They are weak in Water, is cuz it's their Source, The Devils inside DF Users gain power when submerged in Water which makes User unable to control their Body properly, which indicates that Devils & Haki belong in The Sea, it's like their Mother Source (Hence why We heard the word Sea Devil very often)

And think about it, if the Sea acquires all DF Powers, which is basically Ability to turn anything into Reality cuz you would be able to create Life (Zoans) + any Type of Land & Environment & Weather (Logia + Paramecia), so technically the Sea would be able to create Islands with infinite possibilities, so any Sailor can find any Island They dream of, it's like there is a Heaven for anyone (Any Dreamer)

But The Sea by itself can't do all this, it needs a Soul, a Willpower, someone who represents "Sea God" himself and controls it, in other words "The Dreamer" himself, the Person who would lead the World & create a Reality where everyone can share their Dreams, no need to take from others & hurt them so that you get what you want (Which is what every Villain Plot is about)

This Dreamer is none other than Blackbeard, meaning They are currently in Nightmarish Version of Story, and He never sleeps cuz how can anyone be asleep in their own Dream World? And Now Luffy is on Journey to change everything, or as Roger said once "Turn the World upside down" (One Piece means a Coin that has Two Sides)

I've talked too much, but i just wanted to elaborate more about why i believe One Piece Story is much more complicated than people realize
Oh no. Please do continue, my dear man.
:brootea:
Or make a thread about your theory :smart:
 
#15
I hope you don't take it bad lol
I just type a lot when i want to explain something

Zoro did say that King of Hell Mode would Kill him & we've seen that when Enma sucks his Haki, his Hand became Mummified
So it seems that if someone's Haki is completely removed, They end up Dying (Or as i called it, Disconnect from OP Verse)

I'm preparing a Super Mega Analysis on entire OP Story (Hopefully i will cover every single Mystery & Character without Exception)
So i think it's better if i leave all the Details for that, i only Post Hints so far about the Ideas i'm mixing in my head

I'm just waiting for End of Egghead Arc to confirm Identity of Certain Character (Who i believe is gonna make a Surprise Appearance soon, just like Mihawk showed up in Baratie) & then i will start writing my Theory
I'd say you should spoil the character then and when he shows up then it's further proof. Unless you mean you aren't sure which character it is yet and you rely on future events for further interpretations of One Piece worldo.
 
#17
I'd say you should spoil the character then and when he shows up then it's further proof. Unless you mean you aren't sure which character it is yet and you rely on future events for further interpretations of One Piece worldo.
I already have a List of Characters who are gonna be Introduced sooner or later
It's just that i'm not sure which One is Oda gonna Introduce First

I did mention him multiple times in many Threads, so if He does appear, there are countless Comments of mine showing that My Analysis is indeed going in the right way. All i can say is that He is Lurking Legend & Caribou's Boss & most probably Final Villain

Let's just say that this Character is for Current Luffy, what Mihawk was for East Blue Zoro
If He does appear, first thing i will do is make a Thread, showing every single time He was referenced in Manga
 
#19
Are you implying that Roger, a man who just wanted freedom, shackled the World of Piracy to chase after a myth? I can't even begin to emphasize how completely opposite that is of the type of person we know Roger to be.

All the talk of the promised time, the Roger Pirates were to early, bringing the Dawn, the Pirates Roger has been waiting for, the return of Joyboy, etc. etc.. which all ties back to the One Piece, and...... *Drumroll please* It's a myth.....

So basically, the whole story is a lie, and when the Straw Hats finally reach Laugh Tale, it will have all been for nothing. Hell, we might as well go balls to the wall at this point, and say the Rio Poneglyph reveals the secret of the Void Century.... "Nothing Happened" It was all a hoax, it was a completely normal 100 years... The WG erased that year just to execute a 800 year April Fools joke.... GOTCHA BICTHES! LUL!
 
#20
I already have a List of Characters who are gonna be Introduced sooner or later
It's just that i'm not sure which One is Oda gonna Introduce First

I did mention him multiple times in many Threads, so if He does appear, there are countless Comments of mine showing that My Analysis is indeed going in the right way. All i can say is that He is Lurking Legend & Caribou's Boss & most probably Final Villain

Let's just say that this Character is for Current Luffy, what Mihawk was for East Blue Zoro
If He does appear, first thing i will do is make a Thread, showing every single time He was referenced in Manga
Alright, looking forward to it.

However the hologram reference you brought up could simply be foreshadowing at Kizaru battle. It might involve some after-images or "light clones" since photons travel super fast. He could be intangible while at the same time be in multiple places.

The question being if you hit an after image you likely hit the real thing since his particles have to travel to multiple locations to create the afterimages. Just an example. However the fact that light / holograms were brought up and then Kizaru ends up being fully engaged in combat is clearly related.
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Are you implying that Roger, a man who just wanted freedom, shackled the World of Piracy to chase after a myth? I can't even begin to emphasize how completely opposite that is of the type of person we know Roger to be.

All the talk of the promised time, the Roger Pirates were to early, bringing the Dawn, the Pirates Roger has been waiting for, the return of Joyboy, etc. etc.. which all ties back to the One Piece, and...... *Drumroll please* It's a myth.....

So basically, the whole story is a lie, and when the Straw Hats finally reach Laugh Tale, it will have all been for nothing. Hell, we might as well go balls to the wall at this point, and say the Rio Poneglyph reveals the secret of the Void Century.... "Nothing Happened" It was all a hoax, it was a completely normal 100 years... The WG erased that year just to execute a 800 year April Fools joke.... GOTCHA BICTHES! LUL!
Hah. The void century still happened.

My theory is that the One Piece is a myth that Roger continued to spread because he realized it was part of an ancient movement. He saw the value in inspiring people to pursue their dreams and oppose the World Government and Imu. Because it's important to gather forces and increase the piracy activity or rather the number of people and raw power that doesn't fall under the WG and therefore Imu.

The way Imu talked about the will of the D to Kobra sounded to me like initially it that was something set up by those that created the new world order, celestial dragon status and the rest of the new hierarchial structure as opposed to the old world before the void century. But from Imu's words I gather the will of the D is a highjacked movement by those who now ironically oppose the new world government which initially opposed the old world government or kingdoms or whatever way the world was setup.
 
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