So you both believe and both don't believe in free will ? Do you see how that's illogical ?
I said

to a extent each

you can act on whatever you want but there can be environmental restrictions on behavior often from social or cultural stimuli

I'm tired of discussing with anti science.
dude im not a flat earther

you just using this shit as a buzz word to mean, anti leftist which im clearly am and for clearly defined reasons
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hate how literally got banned for saying his anti science insults are just based in ideological belief

and he just says the quiet parts out load and nobody bats a eye

 
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I said

to a extent each

you can act on whatever you want but there can be environmental restrictions on behavior often from social or cultural stimuli
Ok I will precise:

Do you believe in that definition of Free Will or not. (there can be yes and no, it would be illogical):

"Free will, in philosophy and science, the supposed power or capacity of humans to make decisions or perform actions independently of any prior event or state of the universe"


dude im not a flat earther

you just using this shit as a buzz word to mean, anti leftist which im clearly am and for clearly defined reasons
You can be antiscience without being a flat earther. By refusing the legitimacy of social science, you are denying the legitimacy of science itself.
 
Let's test that. Do you believe in Free will ?

love how this question had nothing to do with me
like literally nothing

I asked what makes your belief in larger then the liberal's and how that makes you different from them

instead you ask me who has said to have disliked many aspects of your ideological position
very openly
 
love how this question had nothing to do with me
like literally nothing

I asked what makes your belief in larger then the liberal's and how that makes you different from them

instead you ask me who has said to have disliked many aspects of your ideological position
very openly
The point was the status of different value between liberals and leftist. I give you an example of one.
 
Ok I will precise:

Do you believe in that definition of Free Will or not. (there can be yes and no, it would be illogical):
im saying there are sociological factors that can influence it or you can just annoy all of it

it's not a black and white answer

the degree of free will that can be expressed equates to the amount of expression that you are legally allowed to have in the society

In a muslim society, my freedom would be very limited same goes in a very liberal society
 
cant be bothered to get the clip, but essentially he read the lyrics to that wet ass pussy song and said if you need a bucket and a mop, you have a medical condition and need to go see a doctor.

then people took that and said he cant make his wife wet, which is beyond ridiculous and retarded at best, or extremely disingenuous at worst.


and before anyone jumps at me for "defending" ben, nah bro, i dont like the guy, but i also dont like lying about people or their statements.
some women actually squirt and make a mess
 
The point was the status of different value between liberals and leftist. I give you an example of one.
you said deeper belief/values


That was your statement, I replied with how can you prove that your beliefs are more passionate or deeply held as compared to liberal


cause your answer to me was belief remember
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You can be antiscience without being a flat earther. By refusing the legitimacy of social science, you are denying the legitimacy of science itself.

Not to reignite the debate but dont see social science as actual science
 
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tates biggest issue was he felt the need to boast with all of this criminal shit on the internet, basically giving the court all the evidence they need to bust his ass. andrew tate is human trash
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jordan peterson isnt all bad (especially his early public stuff before he spiralled into the redpill shit. though i dont even blame him since nutjobs like you called him far right anyway). he is actually making a good point here that you obviously cant refute. the conclusion of male dominance is just a non-sequitur at best or a generalization at worst, so i guess there is something wrong with your logic. but that was apparent from our latest conversation anyway
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iirc tate used the site chaturbate. tiktok and onlyfans came later. but yeah, he sex trafficked and scammed alot of peeps
JP said he fits the narcissist type
 
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tates biggest issue was he felt the need to boast with all of this criminal shit on the internet, basically giving the court all the evidence they need to bust his ass. andrew tate is human trash

yea seen him on tucker's say it was just tiktok but the video you showed
shows he himself admitting that he did to cams and he coerced them into it

not the best look but still not rape
 
it's not a black and white answer
It is. For once, that a simple yes or no question. I precised clearly the definition. With that, you can't be on both side, its perfectly illogical. So either you didn't read the definition or you don't want to answer.


I replied with how can you prove that your beliefs are more passionate or deeply held as compared to liberal
The point is not to compare the beliefs, its to understand that there are two type of beliefs in conflict.
For example with the free will argument, a real materialist leftist won't believe in free will as opposed to a liberal who perfectly believe in it. This is a notion where there can't be nuance UNLESS you understand that you must live with the illusion and therefore use the environment as a scale for this value. The more you think the environment as an effect on your life, the more you will be on the left. That's what a clash of value means.

And those value are all along the way:

Free Will VS its absence
Individualism VS Collectivism culture
Progressism VS Conservatism
Socialism VS Capitalism
Etc.

Not to reignite the debate but dont see social science as actual science
Yes I understood that :few:
 
cant be bothered to get the clip, but essentially he read the lyrics to that wet ass pussy song and said if you need a bucket and a mop, you have a medical condition and need to go see a doctor.

then people took that and said he cant make his wife wet, which is beyond ridiculous and retarded at best, or extremely disingenuous at worst.


and before anyone jumps at me for "defending" ben, nah bro, i dont like the guy, but i also dont like lying about people or their statements.
so they were trolling after all hum
 
the rich elites do but they dont represent men as a whole or as a generalization
Exactly
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not a black and white answer
Ye alot of things that arent black and white seem to be that way to c4n
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some women actually squirt and make a mess
Im well aware, but bucket and mop is still an exaggeration, which is what ben was trying to get at by saying if thats the case, go see a doctor.
 
Exactly
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Ye alot of things that arent black and white seem to be that way to c4n
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Im well aware, but bucket and mop is still an exaggeration, which is what ben was trying to get at by saying if thats the case, go see a doctor.
bucket is,mop is not.Some woman can squirt all the way to ceiling.Google that stuff.This isn't some special effect pornstars make.Thank god,most women dont have this problem.
 
He is a beacon of narcissism. That much is undeniable.
And the coma surely didnt help lmao
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yea seen him on tucker's say it was just tiktok but the video you showed
shows he himself admitting that he did to cams and he coerced them into it

not the best look but still not rape
Ye not sure bout the rape shit, but he is fucked over the sex trafficking
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Google that stuff.
Im still well aware :cheers:
 
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