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RayanOO

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Alright guys, no trolling. I feel like I should substantiate the predictions I made about Kizaru not going down this arc.

A lot of people said Kizaru or Saturn need to be defeated because this would qualify as the “shocking event” that has been foreshadowed. I have been saying that there is a zero percent chance that neither Luffy nor Kizaru being defeated would qualify as an appropriately shocking event at this point in the plot, but that I had no idea what the actual shocking event would be.

Well, look at this chapter. Nika is now awakening Ancient Kingdom technology with its gay-ass heartbeat or whatever. I think the reveal that Luffy’s fruit is now directly connected to the resurrection of the Ancient Kingdom is Oda setting up the real shocking event of this arc, not some fairy ass battle result but something actually truly shocking that no one expected like the resurrection of aspects of the Ancient Kingdom all around the world or something that actually connects to the overarching plot and isn’t just a versus battle.

@SakazOuki @MarineHQ @Kurozumi Wiwi @The White Crane @Wuuuke @silverfire @scoobie3 @AkainuTheGrimReaper @Apollo @Admiral Mou Bu @ZenZu @Extravlad @kurwa @haxxor @EmperorKinyagi @Blackbeard @Owl Ki @TheKnightOfTheSea @God Buggy @Sentinel @Playa4321 @Veku @ConquistadoR @comrade @Nidai_Kitetsu
Kizaru should fall this arc

All his plot points and story are connected to this arc
I don’t know what is left for him after

I think and prefer him to lose this arc
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Why am I convinced something is happening to Kizaru this arc

look at this dialogue “don’t force me to hurt people I know because of the mission”

is Oda gonna have one of the greatest deaths ever
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This is Kizaru's final arc

He has too many connections to every character here and Oda needs to trim the fat for when the Marines/WG fight the Straw Hat + allies.

Greenbull and Fujitora will work as Akainu's wings against Zoro/Sanji, Kizaru really doesn't have a role going forward.
 
Alright guys, no trolling. I feel like I should substantiate the predictions I made about Kizaru not going down this arc.

A lot of people said Kizaru or Saturn need to be defeated because this would qualify as the “shocking event” that has been foreshadowed. I have been saying that there is a zero percent chance that neither Luffy nor Kizaru being defeated would qualify as an appropriately shocking event at this point in the plot, but that I had no idea what the actual shocking event would be.

Well, look at this chapter. Nika is now awakening Ancient Kingdom technology with its gay-ass heartbeat or whatever. I think the reveal that Luffy’s fruit is now directly connected to the resurrection of the Ancient Kingdom is Oda setting up the real shocking event of this arc, not some fairy ass battle result but something actually truly shocking that no one expected like the resurrection of aspects of the Ancient Kingdom all around the world or something that actually connects to the overarching plot and isn’t just a versus battle.

@SakazOuki @MarineHQ @Kurozumi Wiwi @The White Crane @Wuuuke @silverfire @scoobie3 @AkainuTheGrimReaper @Apollo @Admiral Mou Bu @ZenZu @Extravlad @kurwa @haxxor @EmperorKinyagi @Blackbeard @Owl Ki @TheKnightOfTheSea @God Buggy @Sentinel @Playa4321 @Veku @ConquistadoR @comrade @Nidai_Kitetsu
I still view this arc as a merger of Sabaody and Ohara, where the big news will be Egghead literally being destroyed, but the Straw Hats will escape thanks to Kuma.

I also think there's a great chance we see a Marine civil war erupt during Egghead.

Dr. Vegapunk has A LOT of allies in the Marines, and we already know plenty of Marines just don't agree with the WG's ideology (Fujitora, Smoker, Koby, Garp, Drake, etc).

You're right, though, I definitely see Luffy's connection to the Ancient Kingdom being very important here.
 
Well shit.

If Luffy is using acoc. The yonko agenda is dead.

I'll admit it. Oh well. I have like 200 other manga to read. I'm dropping this!

Congrats on the win lee, kinyagi and other dudes. I'm out.
Bro, it seems a little too extreme.

You were just wrong about a powerscaling discussion. Yeah, I understand it was a big one, but still.

But honor to you for having admitted it.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
This is Kizaru's final arc

He has too many connections to every character here and Oda needs to trim the fat for when the Marines/WG fight the Straw Hat + allies.

Greenbull and Fujitora will work as Akainu's wings against Zoro/Sanji, Kizaru really doesn't have a role going forward.
Fujitora will NEVER be an enemy
 
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