I want to say that Kakashi was fighting Obito where he lost to Itachi
And no Jiraiya cant beat Itachi
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I just said that Madara was controlling Obito when it was necessary
You say itachi can beat Jiriya. Itachi said he couldn't. Itachi and pein were the strongest in akatsuki sans obito. Both if them said Jiriya was stronger. Itachi said he would kill both him and kisame and that makes sense because he was like 16/17 at the time and may not have had his shield. Jiriya then went on to prove his prowress in fighting pain by himself without knowing that Nagato was controlling them from a distance.
Everything in the manga proves what I'm saying buy you go ahead and say na uh. That's a valid argument aswell.
To prove what I'm saying Naruto using a similar kit to jiriya defeated Pein and confronted Nagato. Only difference is Jiriya has unlimited sage mode. The key to reading is comprehension. Jiriya killed three points body's not knowing their was more and lost an arm in the process. The lack of knowledge is what did him in. The idea that jiriya couldn't then defeat the other 2 body's if he had not lost his arm is ridiculous. Even after losing the arm he was able to escape into another dimension and against the wishbone his advisors he chose to keep fighting to learn about Nagatos secret and the secret of the rinnengan which nobody alive at that point knew.
He sacrificed his life to tell konoha about nothing they never could have known both saving the village from pain and helping in the final war. And this is after he infiltrated a village beat two joining and 2 shot konan who was an upper echelon akatsuki member.
So if you think jiriya who beat 2 joining and an akatsuki member and three pain body's is losing to a 16 year old Itachi when he literally has sage mode and two elder frogs also using sage Chakra that's on you. Though jiriya was among the top 5 strongest people alive at the time of his death.
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Oonoki
Jiriya
Obito
Pein
You can put Itachi in that list but acknowledge and don't wank that he has a good chance of beating Itachi. Itachi could never infiltrate a village face two joining face pein and then take down three pein body's. He'd grab his eye and retreat after fighting konan if he can even reliably beat her.