Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1093 Spoilers Discussion

[Sword God Ryuma]

Hate to be that guy but the fight ended here what happens after is PIS, Luffy uses haki and Kizaru can't use his element, someone makes a bubble and boom, it's over.

Kizaru can turn into lasers and escape

 

[Ven437]

Does the ancient robot not appear in the chapter?

Either it doesn’t or it’s just not important enough to be clouted by Redon and leakers.

 

[Ninjashadow0209]

@EmperorKinyagi I'm like 90% certain Luffy will need to push his COO to another level to win. Fight started in 1091 and only hit Luffy landed is with a sneak attack. It's like the Katakuri fight, it's not AP increase that Luffy needs to win.

Now you understands. Great.

 

[LemonadeCandy]

Kizaru wasn’t actually blocking Snakeman. That’s a Redon interpretation that’s wrong.

The clash is literally Yasakani no Magatama (Kizaru has his arm crosse) against Black Mamba.

Am pretty sure I remember Kizaru blocking with his knees and palms and assuming a pose very distinct from Yasakani no Magatama tbh...

Whatever the case is, the point still stands. If Yasakani no Magatama was, as you said, clashing with Luffy's punches then the simple option for Luffy would be to put more power behind those punches. As long as there is some kind of clash or head to head confrontation, it is sensible to throw in aCoC.

Not using it in order to avoid wasting it would make sense if the problem was that Kizaru was simply outmaneuvering Luffy's attacks and never meeting them upfront but clearly that wasn't what was depicted...

 

[haxxor]

Sure blud Sabaody 2.0 is happening right now again isn't it?

I don’t care about headcanon , I’m speaking on whatever is going right mow

for right now I don’t give a shit what happens, stay in the present

 

[Cruxroux]

Lucci is much faster with superior reaction time and combat abilities - aint no way Zoro lands such an attack so early on.

Superior Reaction time and combat abilities than kaido? Doubt that.
He's just smaller.

 

[centurion]

Alright guys, debate question time.

How strong is a single Kizaru clone?

Probably at least high YC range right?

light clone = cell jr

cell jrs were strong for even vegeta

and it’s confirmed canon that each cell jr was around cell’s power level himself

therefore one light clone = soloes Ling and Lueen

 

[Dragon777]

If Oda does not make Luffy use his CoC it basically means he would otherwise be too powerful.
If he's still not using it and if he will not use it at all, it's ass writing.
Kizaru has the mission to eliminate certain people and Oda makes the MC hold himself back, how does that work?

Hopefully this develops into a more exciting fight, cause right now it does not fee authentic tbh

And even if Kiz does not have CoC I still think Kuzan and Sakazuki will have it

He did not use It in the first one-two chapters of Kaido vs G5 either, and we kow have had just one or two moves, let alone chapters.

I don't know if people were complaining back then, but this is 1/10 of what was back then.

 

[Cruxroux]

Momo doesn’t even have haki so he can’t hurt a light clone

It's a clone , it just needs to be interrupted and it's gone.

Don't think of this as Naruto shadow clones.

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

Hate to be that guy but the fight ended here what happens after is PIS, Luffy uses haki and Kizaru can't use his element, someone makes a bubble and boom, it's over.

Haki is not Kairoseki! It just allows to touch the real body of Logia, but doesnt prevent them from using their powers.

 

[Nagasaki]

Chapter was definitely the final nail in the coffin for those who say that admirals don't have a Yonko level.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Am pretty sure I remember Kizaru blocking with his knees and palms and assuming a pose very distinct from Yasakani no Magatama tbh...

Whatever the case is, the point still stands. If Yasakani no Magatama was, as you said, clashing with Luffy's punches then the simple option for Luffy would be to put more power behind those punches. As long as there is some kind of clash or head to head confrontation, it is sensible to throw in aCoC.

Not using it in order to avoid wasting it would make sense if the problem was that Kizaru was simply outmaneuvering Luffy's attacks and never meeting them upfront but clearly that wasn't what was depicted...

Why would Luffy use COC to deflect light orbs? It’s finite you know

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Kizaru can turn into lasers and escape

Did you read my post? Haki stops logias from using their element.

 

[Cruxroux]

light clone = cell jr

cell jrs were strong for even vegeta

and it’s confirmed canon that each cell jr was around cell’s power level himself

therefore one light clone = soloes Ling and Lueen

Wrong thread.
This is one piece thread.

 

[Malio]

It's teh same as G2, G3 etc.

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Actually he only used 3 times in whole series. But what one thing has to do with the other?

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But is a technique as much as Luffy's gears.

It's not the same at all. Zoro doesn't have transformations like Luffy. It's all just sword techniques with your odd illusion

 

[Shimotsuki D Luffy]

Luffy used G5 🤷.

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So far it looks like Luffy just being kicked around.

Zoro breathes
Cruxroux: That's why he's the GOAT!!!!
Luffy protects his crew and fights the admiral who defeated his entire 2 years ago without losing this time.
Cruxroux: Meh, Zoro one shots entire One piece verse

 

[Cadis Etrama Di Urek]

Are you retarded?
Kizaru only hit on Luffy when directly fighting was that charged up kick which the most damage was done by the barrier as Luffy himself said. He then proceeds to try and kill/capture Vegapunk which Luffy then grabs him like a fly and throws him away.
Kizaru then tries to creates clones in order to have success in the assassination of Vegapunk and Luffy yet againt intercepts his attack.

So tell me what has Kizaru accomplished since Luffy appeared?

Okay, you're definitely rëtarded.


Kizaru moved Luffy out of the way by his own power and straight up reached Vegapunk, only his sentimentality made him not end him in an instant.


Luffy didn't stop Kiz from his objective, Kizaru stopped himself and Luffy fortunately came in time.


But the fact remains that Kizaru reached Vegapunk and Luffy couldn't stop that.

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

Superior Reaction time and combat abilities than kaido? Doubt that.
He's just smaller.

I'm sure about that. Kaido got beaten up left and right from everyone - dude is a tank but not someone based on reaction speed and martial art like Lucci (we saw it in Enies Lobby and now he's basically the same in a lot stronger).

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Chapter was definitely the final nail in the coffin for those who say that admirals don't have a Yonko level.

Yonkos >>> Admirals was always a bias take

Yonkos > Admirals

 

[GoldDiamond]

Yet Kizaru has not proven that he can take any significant attack aCoC coated and walk off from it. Kuzan did. Akainu did.

When akainu take an acoc attack?