Current Events Kizaru Is Literally More Focused on Killing Vegapunk Than He is Focused on The Strongest Yonko
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I see lots of salt about this thread, mainly from people who aren’t happy with the Admirals positive characterization but whatev
Everyone knows Kizaru’s main objective is to kill Vegapunk, thats not the point OP is trying to make, The point is Luffy has been incapable of shifting Kizaru’s gaze off his target, and instead was used by Kizaru at first to destroy Vegaforce 1.
At that point Kizaru could’ve offed Franky, Bonney and was standing next to Vegapunk chatting for a bit.
After Luffy sent him flying, a couple clones were enough to distract him and nearly chop his head off. In the meanwhile Kizaru was holding Ussop by the balls, and luckily Vegapunk was already on his way else he’d been dead. Anyway the fun ends now, I think both sides are about to get real serious.
Everyone knows Kizaru’s main objective is to kill Vegapunk, thats not the point OP is trying to make, The point is Luffy has been incapable of shifting Kizaru’s gaze off his target, and instead was used by Kizaru at first to destroy Vegaforce 1.
At that point Kizaru could’ve offed Franky, Bonney and was standing next to Vegapunk chatting for a bit.
After Luffy sent him flying, a couple clones were enough to distract him and nearly chop his head off. In the meanwhile Kizaru was holding Ussop by the balls, and luckily Vegapunk was already on his way else he’d been dead. Anyway the fun ends now, I think both sides are about to get real serious.
Well my point of contention with this thread is this.
For Kizaru. he is just trying to fulfill his mission and kicked Luffy away in chapter 1092 and then made clones to distract Luffy and went past him this one.
For Luffy at this very moment is not yet resolved to fully fight Kizaru, because the main plan is still to just leave. So what did he do ? He spun him around and threw him away to BFR him and keep him away.
So as you can see both sides arent truly fighting each other.
Against Kaido Luffy was trying to put him down for good and was actually laying hands on him.
So you cannot compare the two instances whatsoever because the characters intent is different.
Though I will admit Luffy fucked up, 1 by assuming Kizaru couldnt just fly back after being thrown away and two by goofing off too much he almost lost Usopp.
For Kizaru. he is just trying to fulfill his mission and kicked Luffy away in chapter 1092 and then made clones to distract Luffy and went past him this one.
For Luffy at this very moment is not yet resolved to fully fight Kizaru, because the main plan is still to just leave. So what did he do ? He spun him around and threw him away to BFR him and keep him away.
So as you can see both sides arent truly fighting each other.
Against Kaido Luffy was trying to put him down for good and was actually laying hands on him.
So you cannot compare the two instances whatsoever because the characters intent is different.
Though I will admit Luffy fucked up, 1 by assuming Kizaru couldnt just fly back after being thrown away and two by goofing off too much he almost lost Usopp.
So in addition to Kizaru utterly trolling the Yonko who defeated Kaido, Kizaru also doesn’t give a single shit about Luffy and literally treats him like a pest while his real objective is to kill Vegapunk. After Kizaru one shots Rooftop + Snakeman with no Haki at a low diff, Kizaru immediately phases over to Vegapunk:
Then, after Kizaru utterly trolls Gear 5 and cuts his face with mere clones, he still only cares about killing Vegapunk
And yet, even with a fodder attack meant to kill a helpless old man, Kizaru still injures Gear 5:
The Yonko disrespect from Oda is real in Egghead, literally the strongest Yonko in his most powerful form can’t even earn Trollzaru’s full attention lol.
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Then, after Kizaru utterly trolls Gear 5 and cuts his face with mere clones, he still only cares about killing Vegapunk
And yet, even with a fodder attack meant to kill a helpless old man, Kizaru still injures Gear 5:
The Yonko disrespect from Oda is real in Egghead, literally the strongest Yonko in his most powerful form can’t even earn Trollzaru’s full attention lol.
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Kizaru's Side Quest : Defeat Godfy and Strawhat Pirates
Luffy was fighting seriously though, he went Snakeman off the bat and was struggling to get past Kizaru’s defense, and was trying to inquire about the reason for this assassination mission. Gear5 be doing gear5 shit, throwing Kizaru was not the best of moves but he does know that his objective is to stop Kizaru in his tracks, and Kizaru responds by keeping him busy with clones. He’s only managing to do that with some extra luck (Vegapunk already setting off, Kizaru chatting with VP)
Tldr; Oda drew it this way because he likes Kizaru and his lightspeed powers
Tldr; Oda drew it this way because he likes Kizaru and his lightspeed powers
With no ACoC. So he could be serious but not going all out which is what he would be doing if hes trying to put the man down.
This should tell you that hes not fully resolved to putting Kizaru down yet. He doesnt view him as an enemy that he needs to beat at the moment.
Yes it was not, and why do you think he threw him away? To get him out of the way.
Yeah I mean youre repeating my points my man.
This is what you can argue about, Luffy fucked up many times and his crew was put in danger twice now because of that. But it is not powerlevel related.
I agree, Kizaru is looking efficient and competent.
This should tell you that hes not fully resolved to putting Kizaru down yet. He doesnt view him as an enemy that he needs to beat at the moment.
Yes it was not, and why do you think he threw him away? To get him out of the way.
Yeah I mean youre repeating my points my man.
This is what you can argue about, Luffy fucked up many times and his crew was put in danger twice now because of that. But it is not powerlevel related.
I agree, Kizaru is looking efficient and competent.
He was dead and couldnt fight anymore.
Being resurrected doesnt allow you to fight again. Stamina refill does. And he refilled it twice.
Kaido didn't make himself weaker by lifting the island, he reduced his own stamina with island lifting. We saw that it drains Momo instantly for trying it just a couple of seconds.
You think firing off Hakai comes free of charge? LoL Everything comes at a cost of stamina.
Bairang Gun so far above him in power? lol
Good joke but you literally missed that he matched it for 3 chapters, it is not above him at all. He doesnt even need to face it himself, he can just throw the island against it.
If Luffy vs Kaido happened again, he would murder him again a couple of times before plot armor drags Luffy's ass to victory.
Haki or not, Luffy takes close to zero damage from blunt hits. Hakified hits dont break his bones because they are rubber.
Heartbeat refills indeed fix everything because Luffy's main issue was always stamina and gassing out.
Being resurrected doesnt allow you to fight again. Stamina refill does. And he refilled it twice.
Kaido didn't make himself weaker by lifting the island, he reduced his own stamina with island lifting. We saw that it drains Momo instantly for trying it just a couple of seconds.
You think firing off Hakai comes free of charge? LoL Everything comes at a cost of stamina.
Bairang Gun so far above him in power? lol
Good joke but you literally missed that he matched it for 3 chapters, it is not above him at all. He doesnt even need to face it himself, he can just throw the island against it.
If Luffy vs Kaido happened again, he would murder him again a couple of times before plot armor drags Luffy's ass to victory.
Haki or not, Luffy takes close to zero damage from blunt hits. Hakified hits dont break his bones because they are rubber.
Heartbeat refills indeed fix everything because Luffy's main issue was always stamina and gassing out.
So in addition to Kizaru utterly trolling the Yonko who defeated Kaido, Kizaru also doesn’t give a single shit about Luffy and literally treats him like a pest while his real objective is to kill Vegapunk. After Kizaru one shots Rooftop + Snakeman with no Haki at a low diff, Kizaru immediately phases over to Vegapunk:
Then, after Kizaru utterly trolls Gear 5 and cuts his face with mere clones, he still only cares about killing Vegapunk
And yet, even with a fodder attack meant to kill a helpless old man, Kizaru still injures Gear 5:
The Yonko disrespect from Oda is real in Egghead, literally the strongest Yonko in his most powerful form can’t even earn Trollzaru’s full attention lol.
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Then, after Kizaru utterly trolls Gear 5 and cuts his face with mere clones, he still only cares about killing Vegapunk
And yet, even with a fodder attack meant to kill a helpless old man, Kizaru still injures Gear 5:
The Yonko disrespect from Oda is real in Egghead, literally the strongest Yonko in his most powerful form can’t even earn Trollzaru’s full attention lol.
@SakazOuki @MarineHQ @Kurozumi Wiwi @The White Crane @Wuuuke @silverfire @scoobie3 @AkainuTheGrimReaper @Apollo @Admiral Mou Bu @ZenZu @Extravlad @kurwa @haxxor @EmperorKinyagi @Blackbeard @Owl Ki @TheKnightOfTheSea @God Buggy @Sentinel @Playa4321 @Veku @Le Fishe D. Tomdou @GoldDiamond @Dragon777 @Weeman
He is just stalling to find a way to help him escape
My favorite 1v1 in the series:
Kaido vs Luffy (and Zoro and Killer and Kid and Law and Kinemon and Kiku and Izou and Asura and Kawamatsu and Neku and Inu and Denjiro and Yamato and Momo).
Great 1v1.
Luffy can't beat Kaido in a 1v1 still at a battle starting from full health. Gear 5 runs out before he can beat him, IMO, and Bajrang Gun only hit because Kaido refused to dodge it.
Kizaru vs Luffy is showing us what a lot of Luffy fans really didn't want to imagine: that Luffy is way closer to Kid in power level than Shanks. Until Luffy gets his cooldowns under control, he can't 1v1 top tiers, because he can't beat them fast enough in Gear 5 before it runs out.
Name another top tier that has cooldowns for their strongest techniques?
Imagine if Shanks attacked Kid, then sat down and was like "okay, give me like 10 seconds to recover, that was a lot of Haki." He would get clowned so hard by the fanbase.
Kizaru is such an intelligent fighter, he's making Luffy waste a lot of time just chasing him.
Kaido vs Luffy (and Zoro and Killer and Kid and Law and Kinemon and Kiku and Izou and Asura and Kawamatsu and Neku and Inu and Denjiro and Yamato and Momo).
Great 1v1.
Luffy can't beat Kaido in a 1v1 still at a battle starting from full health. Gear 5 runs out before he can beat him, IMO, and Bajrang Gun only hit because Kaido refused to dodge it.
Kizaru vs Luffy is showing us what a lot of Luffy fans really didn't want to imagine: that Luffy is way closer to Kid in power level than Shanks. Until Luffy gets his cooldowns under control, he can't 1v1 top tiers, because he can't beat them fast enough in Gear 5 before it runs out.
Name another top tier that has cooldowns for their strongest techniques?
Imagine if Shanks attacked Kid, then sat down and was like "okay, give me like 10 seconds to recover, that was a lot of Haki." He would get clowned so hard by the fanbase.
Kizaru is such an intelligent fighter, he's making Luffy waste a lot of time just chasing him.