Powers & Abilities Differences between normal flames, magma, and magma-like flames (Kaido bathing in magma).

[Sasaki Kojirō]

When Zoro proclaimed "that flame is like magma!!" during the confrontation with King, he was undoubtedly referring to the flames as extremely hot. His comparison with magma suggests that the flames were equally scorching, if not even hotter. The author, Eiichiro Oda, likely intended to emphasize the exceptionally intense and lethal nature of King's flames. Therefore, Zoro's phrase can be interpreted as a way to assert that these flames were truly at the same temperature level as molten magma, making them a formidable threat and justifying the choice of the magma analogy.

Now, consider this: Kaido can envelop himself in these flames that are like magma and have the same, if not higher, temperature. What difference does it make if he covers himself in magma or with these flames? None, because both have the same temperature; they are relative in that regard to the extent that even Zoro pointed it out.

When Oda answered a question in the SBS about the strongest in the world, a question in which Akainu was mentioned, but Oda brought up Kaido to answer it, thus placing Kaido above Akainu, it becomes more plausible when it comes to discussing the strongest living creature in the world. Oda basically had in mind to make Kaido a tough matchup for Akainu, and indeed he is. Kaido has shown us that he can withstand Akainu's main power and remain unaffected while doing so.


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[MonsterKaido]

I made a similar thread in the past

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/can-kaido-control-magma.31298/



Kaido mostly controls magma or something very close to magma.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

When Zoro proclaimed "that flame is like magma!!" during the confrontation with King, he was undoubtedly referring to the flames as extremely hot. His comparison with magma suggests that the flames were equally scorching, if not even hotter. The author, Eiichiro Oda, likely intended to emphasize the exceptionally intense and lethal nature of King's flames. Therefore, Zoro's phrase can be interpreted as a way to assert that these flames were truly at the same temperature level as molten magma, making them a formidable threat and justifying the choice of the magma analogy.

Now, consider this: Kaido can envelop himself in these flames that are like magma and have the same, if not higher, temperature. What difference does it make if he covers himself in magma or with these flames? None, because both have the same temperature; they are relative in that regard to the extent that even Zoro pointed it out.

When Oda answered a question in the SBS about the strongest in the world, a question in which Akainu was mentioned, but Oda brought up Kaido to answer it, thus placing Kaido above Akainu, it becomes more plausible when it comes to discussing the strongest living creature in the world. Oda basically had in mind to make Kaido a tough matchup for Akainu, and indeed he is. Kaido has shown us that he can withstand Akainu's main power and remain unaffected while doing so.


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Interesting analysis. You'll be proven right when Kaido emerges from the volcano still alive.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

akainu bros , things don't look good @SakazOuki @MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung @kurwa @Kurozumi Wiwi

 

[MarineHQ]

akainu bros , things don't look good @SakazOuki @MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung @kurwa @Kurozumi Wiwi

I take it as a compliment when the strongest Yonkou tries using Magma as his greatest power despite having aCoC at his disposal.

 

[Shiroyru]

Blue flames > magma-like flames = magma > flames

 

[MarineHQ]

Blue flames > magma-like flames = magma > flames

You have some mighty trust in Sanji by thinking in this manga he'll wield pretty much the most lethal ability lol

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

I made a similar thread in the past

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/can-kaido-control-magma.31298/



Kaido mostly controls magma or something very close to magma.

If Kaido is capable of enveloping himself in flames that possess characteristics similar to magma, such as high temperature, pigmentation, and comparable density as I pointed out in the comparison images, then he truly demonstrates a heat resistance equivalent to what would be necessary to withstand magma at that temperature.

In this specific case, Kaido's ability to envelop himself in flames with characteristics similar to magma that I mentioned in my topic (zero differences) would make him resistant to the heat of magma. Therefore, any distinction between the flames and magma would become irrelevant, as both heat sources would be equally endured by Kaido due to his durability.

So the discussion was never centered on whether what Kaido produced was magma or not; that doesn't even matter.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Hell flame > Any flame

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I take it as a compliment when the strongest Yonkou tries using Magma as his greatest power despite having aCoC at his disposal.

After countless CoC attacks, heat and slash attacks were the most notable attacks against luffy.

Sakazuki is about to be a menace

 

[SakazOuki]

akainu bros , things don't look good @SakazOuki @MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung @kurwa @Kurozumi Wiwi

Good lord these guys need some elementary school classes lmao
Already debunked this shit in the past yet Kaido bros are still desperate for him to have something close to Akainu’s power

This black stuff on Kaido can only be found down the path where his hair runs, its stylistic if anything. His body is completely white

There's nothing called a mix between magma and fire, magma is hot volcanic rocks, so unless you're a magma fruit you can't produce said rocks. Dragon forming rocks would be a novelty

They are not. This is pointless, you're constantly evading all points:
1. Only the top is shaded black, at least 80% of his thickness is completely white without an inch of black shading
2. There are no fumes
3. How tf can a dragon produce rocks
4. When he breathes magma it means his innards can withstand it, but somehow he cannot on the outside, how does that work

But yeah Akainu's magma is still way way denser, these portions are completely white, looks like the top only has this shading

compared to this

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Blue flames > magma-like flames = magma > flames

Heat wise:
Blue Flames >>

Lethality wise:
Magma >>

People assuming it’s like magma means heat when really it just seems to be referring to the fact that it’s molten. The flames are hotter but being sent molten magma through someone is more lethal to most people.

 

[Shiroyru]

Heat wise:
Blue Flames >>

Lethality wise:
Magma >>

People assuming it’s like magma means heat when really it just seems to be referring to the fact that it’s molten. The flames are hotter but being sent molten magma through someone is more lethal to most people.

Sanji will unlock blue magma-like flames

 

[Uncle Van]

Kaido can be hurt by his own own regular flames.

 

[Erkan12]

Kaido can be hurt by his own own flames.

That could be due to the impact and strength of his attack though, not the heat, similar to a thrown fist returning back to its owner at the same speed, but the same fist doesn't hurt the owner without the acceleration and the explosive impact behind it.

 

[Uncle Van]

That could be due to the impact and strength of his attack though, not the heat, similar to a thrown fist returning back to its owner at the same speed, but the same fist doesn't hurt the owner without the acceleration and the explosive impact behind it.

That would make no sense. Boro Breath is a flame attack. Raizo sent it back and it did damage. Every time Luffy got hit by it, it was always flame damage.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Kaido can be hurt by his own own regular flames.

Kaido probably had to coat his entire body in CoC and CoA to survive Dragon Torch.

 

[Erkan12]

That would make no sense. Boro Breath is a flame attack. Raizo sent it back and it did damage. Every time Luffy got hit by it, it was always flame damage.

Raizo also stored tons of water from Zou, it could be his technique he can also restore the strength behind it. Somehow Raizo can store gigantic size of water that weighs tons, its not surprising he can return the strength behind the attack not just the heat.

Also Boro Breath is a flame attack but it explodes, if it wasn't a strength behind, it wouldn't explode. It would be like Raizo's weak fire attack to Ryokugyu without explosion.

 

[Uncle Van]

Raizo also stored tons of water from Zou, it could be his technique he can also restore the strength behind it. Somehow Raizo can store gigantic size of water that weighs tons, its not surprising he can return the strength behind the attack not just the heat.

Also Boro Breath is a flame attack but it explodes, if it wasn't a strength behind, it wouldn't explode. It would be like Raizo's weak fire attack to Ryokugyu without explosion.

The move never exploded when it hit Luffy on 2 occasions though. It only blew up on solid surfaces like mountains.

And no evidence of Raizo storing anything extra. He absorbed Boro Breath, stored it, and sent the exact same attack back.

Kaido probably had to coat his entire body in CoC and CoA to survive Dragon Torch.

Which makes no sense, as you would have to assume Kaido always uses COA on his insides or something to avoid damage from Boro Breath. It's just Oda not giving a shit. I bet you Enel would get hurt by haki lightning.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The move never exploded when it hit Luffy on 2 occasions though. It only blew up on solid surfaces like mountains.

And no evidence of Raizo storing anything extra. He absorbed Boro Breath, stored it, and sent the exact same attack back.



Which makes no sense, as you would have to assume Kaido always uses COA on his insides or something to avoid damage from Boro Breath. It's just Oda not giving a shit. I bet you Enel would get hurt by haki lightning.

Eh Kaidos Boro Breath doesn’t come from inside of him. He just charges a beast on the outside of his mouth that fires.