Controversial Are Logia's are overrated?

Are Logia's overrated

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 30.0%

  • No

    Votes: 21 70.0%
  • Total voters
    30
Yoho

Yoho

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#1
#1
I personally think yes, Logia's are overrated Haki is a hard counter to logia and many of them have weaknesses, water for crocodile, rubber and wood for Enel, hell ceasers basically living vapor you can vacuumed that up.

Other fruits like sugars toy toy or Magellans poison there's no counters besides maybe Haki

But what do you think are Logia's overrated?
 
T

Tapioca

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#2
#2
I think many forms of awakening actually circumvent Haki Users hitting them.

Logias by themselves turn regular people into insignificant enemies, except Haki Users.

Awakened Logia users will turn Haki Users into insignificant enemies, except people who use Conqueror's Haki.

When it comes to Conquerors, the playing field will become even again. Awakened Logias will likely be more resistant to damage. I stand by this.

The gimmicky Paramecia types like Sugar's Hobby fruit do not improve base stats. As a fighter, she's actually weak. All you need to do to make her entirely defenseless is shoot her from a range which is what Usopp did and types like Logia users wouldn't even need to do that much. They could just flick some lava at her or something and she would melt before she could turn them into a toy.
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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#3
#3
No, they are superior to both zoan and paramecia powers.

They can transform like zoans(see: Karasu becoming a bird, Enelโ€™s raijin form, Monet growing snow fangs) And they can produce and control an element like paramecia.
 
Yoho

Yoho

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#5
#5
LolonoisZolo said:
Eating any Logia fruit makes the user automatically go from fodder to YC level lol, how is it overrated again ?
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Ceaser Clown is not YC lvl nor Monet, and unless crocodile unlocked Haki over the last 2 years he isn't either
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Monkey D Theories said:
No, they are superior to both zoan and paramecia powers.

They can transform like zoans(see: Karasu becoming a bird, Enelโ€™s raijin form, Monet growing snow fangs) And they can produce and control an element like paramecia.
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No logia is turning you into a toy, no logia is bathing you in poison, no logia is allowing you to instantly heal, no logia is sucking the soul out of you
 
Chiji_

Chiji_

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#11
#11
I think it depends on which logias we talk about because the story at one point has referenced them as the strongest type of fruit but I donโ€™t not think thatโ€™s the case across the board. Like the powerful elemental ones are among the strongest on the planet without a doubt and weโ€™ve yet to see an awakening. But not every logia is necessarily an element it just has to be something in nature, like Greenbullโ€™s forest power isnโ€™t an element (still extremely strong and useful). Someone like Smoker doesnโ€™t really have that strong of a fruit on its own, he has to do a lot more to supplement that than someone like Enel who is just a powerhouse out the gate because of the type of logia he has.
 
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CensoredbyWG

#12
#12
Logias reign supreme, unless they are against a haki Master.

99% haki users wouldnt be able to win against enel, caesar and crocodile.

You need a LOT of haki to win against a low/mid tier logia.

On top of that, logias can learn haki aswell so...
 
King7

King7

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#13
#13
At least in the topic of which DF type is the strongest, then probably no --- because they're probably appropriately rated --- as the strongest type on average
--- in ch. 274 Robin said Goro is one of the few "invincible" powers ( and Pika is as good if not better )
--- in SBS vol. 30 Oda said Logias are on a whole another lvl
--- in SBS vol. 58 Oda may have implied Gura isn't any weaker than Logias
( and Gura is one of the strongest Paramecias, hyped for it's destructive capability )
--- in ch. 702 Logia being the strongest type seems to be a consensus or a majority opinion in OP world
--- in ch. 1058 a part of Crocodile's high 2B bounty is because of his Logia
--- Vegapunk said he couldn't reproduce Logias unlike Paramecias and Zoans
( including Kaido's which is top 2 Zoans )
 
Yoho

Yoho

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#14
#14
CensoredbyWG said:
Logias reign supreme, unless they are against a haki Master.

99% haki users wouldnt be able to win against enel, caesar and crocodile.

You need a LOT of haki to win against a low/mid tier logia.

On top of that, logias can learn haki aswell so...
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Well anyone can learn haki, but most logia's are pretty meh
King7 said:
At least in the topic of which DF type is the strongest, then probably no --- because they're probably appropriately rated --- as the strongest type on average
--- in ch. 274 Robin said Goro is one of the few "invincible" powers ( and Pika is as good if not better )
--- in SBS vol. 30 Oda said Logias are on a whole another lvl
--- in SBS vol. 58 Oda may have implied Gura isn't any weaker than Logias
( and Gura is one of the strongest Paramecias, hyped for it's destructive capability )
--- in ch. 702 Logia being the strongest type seems to be a consensus or a majority opinion in OP world
--- in ch. 1058 a part of Crocodile's high 2B bounty is because of his Logia
--- Vegapunk said he couldn't reproduce Logias unlike Paramecias and Zoans
( including Kaido's which is top 2 Zoans )
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๐Ÿค” Kaido top 2 Zoan hmmm idk I think I have Orochi's over his

Imagine someone competent or powerful using that fruit they'll be monstrous
 
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Arthur Fleck

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#15
#15
If comparing Logias with other types of DF alone then Logias are generally better. But Haki master > Logias and Haki master Mythical Zoan > Haki Master Logias. And even Haki master ~ Haki Master DF user
 
Monkey D Monkey

Monkey D Monkey

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#18
#18
Personally I think the DF classes hierarchy on average is

God Mythic Zoan > Mythic Zoan > Special Paramecia > Logia > Zoan > Paramecia

If there is a Special or God Logia classification then we could see Logia move higher on the rankings. Also this is just an average, some Paremecia will greatly exceed some Zoan, etcโ€ฆ
 
Gaimon The Pirate

Gaimon The Pirate

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#19
#19
Monkey D Monkey said:
Personally I think the DF classes hierarchy on average is

God Mythic Zoan > Mythic Zoan > Special Paramecia > Logia > Zoan > Paramecia

If there is a Special or God Logia classification then we could see Logia move higher on the rankings. Also this is just an average, some Paremecia will greatly exceed some Zoan, etcโ€ฆ
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I don't see how Phoenix or Nika are stronger than Magma or Ice or Light.
Those damage you almost passively.
 
Djordje

Djordje

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#20
#20
Fact that all 3 part 1 Admirals are logia and first 2 big enemies Crocodile and Enel are logia tells me they are not overrated.
 
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