Controversial Which antagonist would yall say was in the right?

Malakhith

Malakhith

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AlmightyGunther43 said:
Nope. It has been mentioned specifically that the Ancient Kingdom had possessed great ideals. If you can't read between the lines, that isn't my problem. You had bad reading comprehension and you can't even make normal sentences because you're so bad at English.
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Ok. You really are unable to understand something simple. So, for now on, if you want to make a statement to me about something, post a panel supporting your point. I don't respect you enough to care about your opinions and headcanons.

So, if you want to argue that the values of the ancient kingdom make Akainu a monster, post a panel where it shows that the Ancient Kingdom valued things that Akainu are against.
 
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AlmightyGunther43

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Malakhith said:
Ok. You really are unable to understand something simple. So, for now on, if you want to make a statement to me about something, post a panel supporting your point. I don't respect you enough to care about your opinions and headcanons.

So, if you want to argue that the values of the ancient kingdom make Akainu a monster, post a panel where it shows that the Ancient Kingdom valued things that Akainu are against.
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Dude, Luffy himself is a representation of the culture of the Ancient Kingdom. The fact he doesn't like him means the Ancient Kingdom didn't like him, either. Anyway, I'm not going to bother with this. Please move on to another discussion with someone else.
 
Malakhith

Malakhith

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AlmightyGunther43 said:
Dude, Luffy himself is a representation of the culture of the Ancient Kingdom. The fact he doesn't like him means the Ancient Kingdom didn't like him, either. Anyway, I'm not going to bother with this. Please move on to another discussion with someone else.
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Not only this post starts with a headcanon but adds a non-sequitur (Luffy don't like Akainu because he killed Ace and almost killed him, therefore every member of the ancient kingdom will also not like Akainu). Pretty stupid, even for you.
But you just have to stop clicking reply to stop talking to me.
 
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AlmightyGunther43

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Malakhith said:
Not only this post starts with a headcanon but adds a non-sequitur (Luffy don't like Akainu because he killed Ace and almost killed him, therefore every member of the ancient kingdom will also not like Akainu). Pretty stupid, even for you.
But you just have to stop clicking reply to stop talking to me.
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It's not a non sequitur. Just because you think something doesn't follow doesn't mean that it doesn't follow. You may just lack awareness or understanding.

Luffy doesn't like Akainu for tons of reasons. He likes Whitebeard, for one. He knows what he did to him and how he did it.
 
Malakhith

Malakhith

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AlmightyGunther43 said:
It's not a non sequitur. Just because you think something doesn't follow doesn't mean that it doesn't follow. You may just lack awareness or understanding.

Luffy doesn't like Akainu for tons of reasons. He likes Whitebeard, for one. He knows what he did to him and how he did it.
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Post a panel where Luffy shows hate/dislike against Akainu after the war and is not related to Ace or his own injuries. It's that simple.

EDIT: BTW, the whitebeard excuse that you invented is also a non-sequitur. There's no reason to assume that every member of the ancient kingdom would dislike Akainu for having killed WB.
 
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AlmightyGunther43

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park_min young said:
Hody was such a complex character. He hated humans just because of tradition and the idea of it planted within him. Great character writing in my opinion, it’s a very realistic take on racism and people who believe in eugenics.
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Shit yeah. Hody was a very well written character. I thought so. Even the way his nuances apply to elements later in the story.
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Malakhith said:
Post a panel where Luffy shows hate/dislike against Akainu after the war and is not related to Ace or his own injuries. It's that simple.

EDIT: BTW, the whitebeard excuse that you invented is also a non-sequitur. There's no reason to assume that every member of the ancient kingdom would dislike Akainu for having killed WB.
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The Ancient Kingdom shares the same beliefs that Whitebeard and Zeff and everyone else who said things like, "A spear that comes from a person's heart is unstoppable" (paraphrasing) did. You are only misguiding yourself if you believe otherwise.

Whitebeard, Luffy, Zeff, and everyone else who stood their ground against an unfair circumstance in the world shares the same beliefs the Ancient Kingdom does. That's how the story is portrayed. I don't want to be too much of a bore about it but it's fairly obvious that is what the story is about. The Ancient Kingdom has every "right" belief that there could be. Every meaningful event in the story is involved with it.

Everybody who is WRONG in the story shares beliefs that don't align with people like Whitebeard, Zeff, or Luffy, and practically everything RIGHT relates to the Ancient Kingdom.
 
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Juanpiz

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park_min young said:
Hody was such a complex character. He hated humans just because of tradition and the idea of it planted within him. Great character writing in my opinion, it’s a very realistic take on racism and people who believe in eugenics.
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Doffy, crocodile and bb are nothing compared to this masterful character
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AlmightyGunther43 said:
Shit yeah. Hody was a very well written character. I thought so. Even the way his nuances apply to elements later in the story.
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The Ancient Kingdom shares the same beliefs that Whitebeard and Zeff and everyone else who said things like, "A spear that comes from a person's heart is unstoppable" (paraphrasing) did. You are only misguiding yourself if you believe otherwise.

Whitebeard, Luffy, Zeff, and everyone else who stood their ground against an unfair circumstance in the world shares the same beliefs the Ancient Kingdom does. That's how the story is portrayed. I don't want to be too much of a bore about it but it's fairly obvious that is what the story is about. The Ancient Kingdom has every "right" belief that there could be. Every meaningful event in the story is involved with it.

Everybody who is WRONG in the story shares beliefs that don't align with people like Whitebeard, Zeff, or Luffy, and practically everything RIGHT relates to the Ancient Kingdom.
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Zeff? He was a random pirate lol
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AlmightyGunther43 said:
It's not a non sequitur. Just because you think something doesn't follow doesn't mean that it doesn't follow. You may just lack awareness or understanding.

Luffy doesn't like Akainu for tons of reasons. He likes Whitebeard, for one. He knows what he did to him and how he did it.
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Liking is a little too much said.. They just met once and briefly
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Malakhith said:
Most Marines are in the right. 99% of the pirates are better off dead and keeping them away from normal people is the best.
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In a story where are devil fruits and talking animals it is a little weird to talk about "normal"
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Dickie D. Dick

Dickie D. Dick

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Smoker - most based Marine
Franky - stealing fron pirates and beating them up is based
Magellan - just doing his job keeping criminals in jail
Foxy - he offered to play a bet game and Luffy accepted
Perospero - he didn't kill Pedro!
 
ClovenHoofClown

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theres no way impel down can be justified, and unless it was anime only magellan literally killed a bunch of prisoners just because they were being loud and annoying
 
Thunderbolt

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ClovenHoofClown said:
theres no way impel down can be justified, and unless it was anime only magellan literally killed a bunch of prisoners just because they were being loud and annoying
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Nobody cares they were level 6 scum and he warned them multiple times to stfu but they continued to act out at the sight of Boa Hancock
 
Thunderbolt

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ClovenHoofClown said:
i dont see how that changes anything
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I see that you are some soft pansie who doesn’t read this manga.

A whole bunch of rowdy rapist and mass murderers were screaming disrespectfully and acting lewd while Magellan the warden who has full authority to make executions was down on official business as the world was preparing for a massive world changing event at Marineford.

I see nothing more but a Lobysister crybaby equivalent whining about sub human blights to civilization being put down. It’s weird that you even care about random evil fodder being murked.

Whats next for you? Are you going to complain about what Aramaki did to the Udon Pirates? Stfu its nothing compared to what they did to Wano. What goes around comes around, like Absolute Justice
 
ClovenHoofClown

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Thunderbolt said:
I see that you are some soft pansie who doesn’t read this manga.

A whole bunch of rowdy rapist and mass murderers were screaming disrespectfully and acting lewd while Magellan the warden who has full authority to make executions was down on official business as the world was preparing for a massive world changing event at Marineford.

I see nothing more but a Lobysister crybaby equivalent whining about sub human blights to civilization being put down. It’s weird that you even care about random evil fodder being murked.

Whats next for you? Are you going to complain about what Aramaki did to the Udon Pirates? Stfu its nothing compared to what they did to Wano. What goes around comes around, like Absolute Justice
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larp
 
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