Speculations What do you think makes more sense for Zoro's final fight?
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1. It's a cartoonish manga. There might be an entire arc of SHP chasing after Buggy to recover the One Piece.
2. How else will Zoro get his fight with Mihawk?
3. One piece isn't a consumable and it doesn't apply Pirate King status, which is a title and the treasure is an item. There's a difference betwen the two.
4. Sabo > Luffy
2. How else will Zoro get his fight with Mihawk?
3. One piece isn't a consumable and it doesn't apply Pirate King status, which is a title and the treasure is an item. There's a difference betwen the two.
4. Sabo > Luffy
Because Zoro would want to fight Mihawk and Mihawk would want to fight Zoro. You are ignoring narrative implications and writing decisions Oda is making.
You are right Cross Guild is irrelevant, SAVE for the fact that it is an avenue to involve Mihawk (and whatever other pirate group they recruit) in the fight for One Piece. Why do you think the entirety of 1082 exists, especially this page?
Do you think Oda just writes dialogue like this with no payoff?
Once again, this entirely supports Mihawk being invovled in the fight for One Piece, and thus his endgame with Zoro. I have still not heard one justifiable reason Mihawk needs to be "saved" for the WG or after.
Hell, if the WG arent the final villains (unlikely, but lets play devils advocate), nothing I said above changes, as Mihawk could then just be Zoro's final fight before One Piece anyway.
You are right Cross Guild is irrelevant, SAVE for the fact that it is an avenue to involve Mihawk (and whatever other pirate group they recruit) in the fight for One Piece. Why do you think the entirety of 1082 exists, especially this page?
Do you think Oda just writes dialogue like this with no payoff?
Once again, this entirely supports Mihawk being invovled in the fight for One Piece, and thus his endgame with Zoro. I have still not heard one justifiable reason Mihawk needs to be "saved" for the WG or after.
Hell, if the WG arent the final villains (unlikely, but lets play devils advocate), nothing I said above changes, as Mihawk could then just be Zoro's final fight before One Piece anyway.
If Imu is final villain, nasjuro is zoro final battle
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Because Zoro would want to fight Mihawk and Mihawk would want to fight Zoro. You are ignoring narrative implications and writing decisions Oda is making.
You are right Cross Guild is irrelevant, SAVE for the fact that it is an avenue to involve Mihawk (and whatever other pirate group they recruit) in the fight for One Piece. Why do you think the entirety of 1082 exists, especially this page?
Do you think Oda just writes dialogue like this with no payoff?
Once again, this entirely supports Mihawk being invovled in the fight for One Piece, and thus his endgame with Zoro. I have still not heard one justifiable reason Mihawk needs to be "saved" for the WG or after.
Hell, if the WG arent the final villains (unlikely, but lets play devils advocate), nothing I said above changes, as Mihawk could then just be Zoro's final fight before One Piece anyway.
You are right Cross Guild is irrelevant, SAVE for the fact that it is an avenue to involve Mihawk (and whatever other pirate group they recruit) in the fight for One Piece. Why do you think the entirety of 1082 exists, especially this page?
Do you think Oda just writes dialogue like this with no payoff?
Once again, this entirely supports Mihawk being invovled in the fight for One Piece, and thus his endgame with Zoro. I have still not heard one justifiable reason Mihawk needs to be "saved" for the WG or after.
Hell, if the WG arent the final villains (unlikely, but lets play devils advocate), nothing I said above changes, as Mihawk could then just be Zoro's final fight before One Piece anyway.
No way even if he cross path with him , he will fight.
He got the reality check in East Blue and 2 years of training what Mihawk is capable of.
Even after fighting Kaido , he called Mihawk "inhuman".
That itself speaks volume.
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That's the point lol.
Zoro vs Mihawk had nothing to do with story to begin with.
Its hyped since Pre time skip and even at that time it had nothing to do with MC plot. Its Zoro's story.
Zoro vs Mihawk is the prologue.
?? Too early? Zoro is defeating YCs, his next stage is to struggle against Admirals and Mihawk, who is equivalent to a Yonko at this rate lmao. Like outside of Shiryu and Fuji/Ryo. There is virtually no one else to fight.
Nobody is saying they HAVE to fight in the initial conflict over the 4th RP. For all we know, Zoro defeats Shiryu or Fujitora in that war, then fights Mihawk while Luffy faces Blackbeard or Shanks at LT.
This isnt rocket science man
Nobody is saying they HAVE to fight in the initial conflict over the 4th RP. For all we know, Zoro defeats Shiryu or Fujitora in that war, then fights Mihawk while Luffy faces Blackbeard or Shanks at LT.
This isnt rocket science man
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That's the part you don't understand.
Zoro isn't ready for that level yet.
His observation might be strong but Still not ready for Mihawk , Shanks had to devise Future killing for this.
Mihawk is > Yonkou and Admiral.
Shiryu/Aokiji - Average Blade , maybe among 21 great swords.
Nasujuro - Supreme grade sword
Mihawk. - supreme grade and it's Black blade.
Zoro isn't ready for that level yet.
His observation might be strong but Still not ready for Mihawk , Shanks had to devise Future killing for this.
Mihawk is > Yonkou and Admiral.
Shiryu/Aokiji - Average Blade , maybe among 21 great swords.
Nasujuro - Supreme grade sword
Mihawk. - supreme grade and it's Black blade.
Meh, his agenda has always been this depressed, bored pirate because nobody will truly fight him, not seeing how this is supposed to change.
First off, we need to stop assuming that Nasujuro follows the same "rules" of swordsmanship that black blade users follow anyhow. We already know that Black Blades upgrade the ranking of the sword as it was originally. This implies Yoru was not a surpeme grade before it turned black. Shusui is a level lower as a black blade, which means it was even lower when Ryuma started using it.
Shodai kitetsu (what we assumed Nasujuro has) is the only surpeme grade blade currently known outside of Roger and Whitebeard's swords (and maybe Shanks' Gryphon). There is no confirmation that Supreme Grade swords can turn black on their own. That said, we still do not know what the upper limits of these Gorosei are. And considering Saturn's showing already, its pretty high.
Mihawk is relative to every other endgame character here, that being Akainu, Shanks and Blackbeard. Lets stop inflating his "greatness" over characters clearly more important than him (i.e. to Luffy, who is the MC of this story)
First off, we need to stop assuming that Nasujuro follows the same "rules" of swordsmanship that black blade users follow anyhow. We already know that Black Blades upgrade the ranking of the sword as it was originally. This implies Yoru was not a surpeme grade before it turned black. Shusui is a level lower as a black blade, which means it was even lower when Ryuma started using it.
Shodai kitetsu (what we assumed Nasujuro has) is the only surpeme grade blade currently known outside of Roger and Whitebeard's swords (and maybe Shanks' Gryphon). There is no confirmation that Supreme Grade swords can turn black on their own. That said, we still do not know what the upper limits of these Gorosei are. And considering Saturn's showing already, its pretty high.
Mihawk is relative to every other endgame character here, that being Akainu, Shanks and Blackbeard. Lets stop inflating his "greatness" over characters clearly more important than him (i.e. to Luffy, who is the MC of this story)