so if there are hundresds of rockets and dozens of terrorists living in the same building as a hospital. What are you supposed to do? ignore them? answer this question.
If I were to use your colonizer and terrorist mentality I'd say hamas was justified in going into israel cause "they have a right to defend themselves" since you have treated them like animals, stolen their land, forced them to live in concentration camps, etc. There is NO FUCKING EXCUSE TO KILL CIVILIANS. But I guess in you peanut sized brain that only applies when it affects your side. You're killing them and hiding behind the argument "we're actually warning them" fuck off.
they what is called "roof knocking"
they shoot a very weak and loud bomb on a roof of a building, alarming civilians to run away, and bomb it some time later. (now in this war they stopped doing this besides in the first few days).
so if there are hundresds of rockets and dozens of terrorists living in the same building as a hospital. What are you supposed to do? ignore them? answer this question.
this is the building destroyed in "IDF planes attacked Hamas activists and destroyed their war room. just as an example
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Far right football fanboy arrested after trying to beat down a Hamas terrorist recovering from his wounds in an Israel civilian hospital (they later moved him to a non civilian one as more nutjobs like this guy wanted to lynch him)
we even treat the wounded terrorists
Never ignore them,but airstrikes aren't effective on the long run.It kills way more civilians than actual fighters/terrorists/whatever and it only fuels their hatred.Why is it do you think these people have been going on with this for over 3 decades now?They are clearly being radicalized by the violence and the conditions they live in.I think what Israel is about to do now with a ground invasion,should have been done way back in the day.We have a bunch of drug dealers throwing grenades and blowing shit up with explosives here in Brazil and the police or the army never uses the same type of material for obvious reason:to not endanger civilians lives.
so if there are hundresds of rockets and dozens of terrorists living in the same building as a hospital. What are you supposed to do? ignore them? answer this question.
If I were to use your colonizer and terrorist mentality I'd say hamas was justified in going into israel cause "they have a right to defend themselves" since you have treated them like animals, stolen their land, forced them to live in concentration camps, etc. There is NO FUCKING EXCUSE TO KILL CIVILIANS. But I guess in you peanut sized brain that only applies when it affects your side. You're killing them and hiding behind the argument "we're actually warning them" fuck off.
there are no concentration camps.
No, Hamas went directly in for civilians, and also civilians from other countries, random high young people partying
Israel bombs places where terrorists and also civilians there, that is the difference. I expect every other country to act in the same way.
I can't deal with this bullshit anymore without JIDF paying me.
You're probably right. that pussy shit didn't work. we can all blame bibi for that.
I think it's time to stop debating, but I'll give you guys updates and stuff from Telegram that is SFW with translations.
btw,i don't support Hamas.Their idea of "never surrendering their lands" will only bring further wars.I think i would support this mentality before Israel was actually formed,but since there are now millions of Israelis there and the world already recognized it as a nation i think the land needs to be shared.Israelis have their share and so do Palestinians.
there are no concentration camps.
No, Hamas went directly in for civilians, and also civilians from other countries, random high young people partying
Israel bombs places where terrorists and also civilians there, that is the difference. I expect every other country to act in the same way.
I can't deal with this bullshit anymore without JIDF paying me.
Target ALWAYS has civilians (it's a hospital with workers). What now? you let the terrorists keep working as usual? it's a no-pvp zone? lol
Armies HATE this one trick... (I'm gonna ignore all the war crimes commited all the time by all the other armies ever) everything we did was done by the US, and who else (just without social media journalism of modern times) - unless the Russia-Ukraine, I'm not educated on that.
1. Cease fire immediately
2. Open humanitary corridors for food water and health
3. Cease the colonization immediately publically
4. Apologies to the palestinian nation publically for the war crimes on Gaza, the colonization etc.
5. Have a treaty signed with a third party with Palestinian government on the principles of Oslo accords
If Palestinian haven't taken down the Hamas by themself by now, have the International commitee put sanctions on the Palestinian gov to put an end to this group.
See, I've managed to deal with the Hamas problem without a single bomb. The problem of the Isralian gov, is not that they want to deal with Hamas now or protect their population, its that they DON'T WANT PEACE. Why ? Because fascism and the far right flourishes on wars.
The American Heritage Dictionary defines the term concentration camp as: "A camp where persons are confined, usually without hearings and typically under harsh conditions, often as a result of their membership in a group which the government has identified as dangerous or undesirable."
They are not confined. There are no police officers are army arresting them and putting them in a camp.
It's an area with a border wall around it.
Is mexico a concentration camp because it has mexicans ("one ethnic group") and they have a wall around them?
Detainees in a camp are usually... detained... by a country If there was a jewish country next to germany, with was small and cramped with a wall around it. it wouldn't be a concentration camp.
Gaza has 2 millions people. Their population isn't regressing. They are not displaced from their homes (as some genocide counts as without the actual killing of population). Their homes may be physically destroyed, but they keep rebuilding them and reproducing.
We displaced ourselves when we left Gaza in 2006. The IDF forcefully kicked jews out of their homes, and made a clear border wall aroudn gaza
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lol, it's nothing personal
there are worse slurs in a powerscaling thread
The American Heritage Dictionary defines the term concentration camp as: "A camp where persons are confined, usually without hearings and typically under harsh conditions, often as a result of their membership in a group which the government has identified as dangerous or undesirable."
They are not confined. There are no police officers are army arresting them and putting them in a camp.
It's an area with a border wall around it.
Is mexico a concentration camp because it has mexicans ("one ethnic group") and they have a wall around them?
Detainees in a camp are usually... detained... by a country If there was a jewish country next to germany, with was small and cramped with a wall around it. it wouldn't be a concentration camp.
Gaza has 2 millions people. Their population isn't regressing. They are not displaced from their homes (as some genocide counts as without the actual killing of population). Their homes may be physically destroyed, but they keep rebuilding them and reproducing.
We displaced ourselves when we left Gaza in 2006. The IDF forcefully kicked jews out of their homes, and made a clear border wall aroudn gaza
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lol, it's nothing personal
there are worse slurs in a powerscaling thread
1. Cease fire immediately
2. Open humanitary corridors for food water and health
3. Cease the colonization immediately publically
4. Apologies to the palestinian nation publically for the war crimes on Gaza, the colonization etc.
5. Have a treaty signed with a third party with Palestinian government on the principles of Oslo accords
If Palestinian haven't taken down the Hamas by themself by now, have the International commitee put sanctions on the Palestinian gov to put an end to this group.
See, I've managed to deal with the Hamas problem without a single bomb. The problem of the Isralian gov, is not that they want to deal with Hamas now or protect their population, its that they DON'T WANT PEACE. Why ? Because fascism and the far right flourishes on wars.
I dont think there is no other faction is Palestine that can deal with Hamas.I hear they are 30k-40k men strong.Its quite a lot of firepower.They need to send a UN peacekeeping mission there.
The American Heritage Dictionary defines the term concentration camp as: "A camp where persons are confined, usually without hearings and typically under harsh conditions, often as a result of their membership in a group which the government has identified as dangerous or undesirable."
They are not confined. There are no police officers are army arresting them and putting them in a camp.
It's an area with a border wall around it.
Is mexico a concentration camp because it has mexicans ("one ethnic group") and they have a wall around them?
Detainees in a camp are usually... detained... by a country If there was a jewish country next to germany, with was small and cramped with a wall around it. it wouldn't be a concentration camp.
Gaza has 2 millions people. Their population isn't regressing. They are not displaced from their homes (as some genocide counts as without the actual killing of population). Their homes may be physically destroyed, but they keep rebuilding them and reproducing.
We displaced ourselves when we left Gaza in 2006. The IDF forcefully kicked jews out of their homes, and made a clear border wall aroudn gaza
Are you seriously dumb enough to compare Mexico to Gaza? You've confined them into a small strip of land. Every sane honest person describes it as an open air prison. Mexico is a country and internationally recognized, not to mention a huge ass country. What a disingenuous fucking argument. Disgusting ass shit.
problem is when they tried stuff with the palestinians, it was either declined (early 2 state solution) or after Oslo for example we got exploding busses. So people are skeptical for those diplomatic solutions (expecting less safety and more terrorism if those things come)
Okay, but you're saying it like israel made that strip of land on purpose. Borders were created on geopolitical history, stuff from the brits and the UN, and wars.
Also, after israel won a 1v4 war and had a huge area of Egypt, Egypt did not want to take in Gaza! they could just join and not be a "small strip of land". But Egypt like many other arab countries hates the palestinians for shenanigans they cost them. Nobody likes them.
I don't give a fucking shit. Keep murdering, keep justifying, keep obfuscating when your far right government has done nothing but violate international law and engage in apartheid. You're the terrorist.
I dont think there is no other faction is Palestine that can deal with Hamas.I hear they are 30k-40k men strong.its quite a lot of firepower.They need to send a UN peacekeeping mission there.
The Hamas is fueled by anger and hate. Get rid of that and you will end up only with the most extremist. Especially if the Israelian gov make public apologies for the colonization. (which will never happen I guess)
They cut out the electricity and water Israel gives to Gaza (imagine giving water and electric supply to your enemy, lol) so I think they might be waiting a bit to tire them out. (they still have 2-3 days of water reserve iirc, plus their own system which isnt' enough on it's own). So maybe part of the plan is to wait and "siege" them a little bit before going in?
There is funny news about a pizza place, but idk it seems the atmosphere here is too tense
@Tobra I believe either you or Nikainparis told me that,but i forgot to mention this.This is actually more evidence that Israel is trying to starve them a bit before raiding them.They bombed supplies,right?
The Hamas is fueled by anger and hate. Get rid of that and you will end up only with the most extremist. Especially if the Israelian gov make public apologies for the colonization. (which will never happen I guess)
I'm not talking about the right, I'm talking about the far right.
Apologies could soften the population in general,but it certainly won't do a thing to Hamas.I think it actually might make them even more pissed.They might take it as mockery.
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