[FNZ] Role Madness Hell's Paradise Mafia #1 [Game Ended - Mafia + Survivor Win]

[Polar Bear]

have you noticed a certain pattern in reads from Ultra,

My thoughts on ultra ⬇️

You are not pushing anyone with conviction, you are attempting to sheep others like flower, you got no one as scum, just a bunch of town reads and are playing like a little scared turd eater. Its almost a carbon copy of the last game.

 

[Ultra]

@Ekkologix have you noticed a certain pattern in reads from Ultra, Flower, and Ratchet regarding a lack of scum ones while choked full of "vary town reads" going on repeatedly with these three?

Oh no. Hurry Aurelian, you must stop us! The fate of the game depends on it!

 

[Orwellian]

How does that make her "more viable". I want you to explain, in full, why you are more confident on Ultra being scum than her, yet you are voting her because you claim she's a more tenable wagon to achieve. Where is this coming from - how does your solving establish the consensus necessary for this position?

Already addressed earlier.

Flower is under the microscope now and since last night, her flip will resolve Ultra. Her posturing, flip-flopping, and several players retracting reads of seeing her as town have been moved back to null or shading her as scum. You can read back but I am going to get her wagon pushed, as well as the curiosity you have a lack of scum reads which has been paralleled with her and Ultra.

If Flower is scum, then Ultra is logically scum, and we can clear Nibles and Orca.

 

[Hayumi]

Anyways HWHNE seems like a weak place to park your vote. Manz has 7 posts, and they all look like a load of nonsense taken either way.

Is anyone familiar with their play? Are they new? Do they have typical tells? Are they usually LHF?

Can someone answer this

 

[Orwellian]

My thoughts on ultra ⬇️

Please change your vote to Flower if you agree with me that she's tied hard with Ultra.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

are you going to give them the same treatment as Seatonnes in regards to being a new player?

I didn't even know HWHNE was new lmao.

Or was the special treatment based on friendship and not threadplay?

Threadplay. The longer he goes mia, the less leeway I can give him.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

@Seatonnes reads?

 

[Indigo]

Here's my thing:

I started off by being fine sheeping Fuji and Flower here.

I believe Fuji's miller claim for now, will see what happens in the future.

Flower on the other hand started strong for me, but a few things have been making me doubt that slot since then.

I still think Nibel's reaction to unvoting Flower as soon as Flower turned on Nibel was really weak, felt like a caught scum being scared. So i won't forget that.

I didn't have much on Orca, i was just sheeping on the wagon.

The HeWhoHasNoEqual dude, i just read all of his 7 posts, didn't see much. If you guys wanna lynch there because of inactivity, sure, last few games had quite a few scum hiding in there. But his flip won't really give us a lot of info, since there's almost no interactivity.

I'm actually kinda fine voting for Flower here.

 

[CakeWalker]

I didn't even know HWHNE was new lmao.

Threadplay. The longer he goes mia, the less leeway I can give him.

This for anyone reading is much more positive response and isn't a deflection. It's also convinced me to just switch my votes and just look to remove the deflector. Deflectors aren't game solvers, they are game blockers.

UNVOTE

VOTE: Flower

 

[Ratchet]

Already addressed earlier.

Flower is under the microscope now and since last night, her flip will resolve Ultra. Her posturing, flip-flopping, and several players retracting reads of seeing her as town have been moved back to null or shading her as scum. You can read back but I am going to get her wagon pushed, as well as the curiosity you have a lack of scum reads which has been paralleled with her and Ultra.

If Flower is scum, then Ultra is logically scum, and we can clear Nibles and Orca.

No you didn't. You haven't actually begun answering anything to me. You've just gone circular. When I asked you why you're voting Flower over Ultra, despite Ultra being in your "primary" PoE and Flower being in your "secondary", you said that Flower's wagon was "more viable" than Ultra's. Not only do I believe this to be demonstrably untrue, I think it doesn't make a lick of sense coming from you - the idea that you need to be concerned about viability around Ultra, one of your two main scum reads, does not hold up when you are actively seeking to create a wagon with less traction and less votes on another player who you admit to scum reading less. Your "solve" does not even begin to evidence why you would do this either - I do not have full insight into your thought patterns - no one does.

Vote: Orwellian

You have become my first scum read.

 

[The Orca]

@Ekkologix have you noticed a certain pattern in reads from Ultra, Flower, and Ratchet regarding a lack of scum ones while choked full of "vary town reads" going on repeatedly with these three?

[USER=8217]@ORCA[/USER]
@Polar Bear

You must've as well.

Man that guy in multiple forums must not like me lmao

Yes, but its actually much larger this game imo. A group of people are focusing on a bare minimum

The biggest connection I have seen is Ultra and Hayumi questioning the HeWhoHasNoEqual vote, but more just shades it and never really wants to know why I have him lock scum. And then ignores me when I try to get them engaged in the discussion

 

[Ratchet]

Flower on the other hand started strong for me, but a few things have been making me doubt that slot since then

Like?

 

[CakeWalker]

Even if the slot is town, will be a hinderance. And when I was mafia on FV in Fuji's game - keeping hinderances in games was really beneficial to the team of me, Fang, Charles, Ekko and Cubey getting a win. As town you want to remove game blockers ASAP, but likely just scum or indie at this point

 

[York]

What country?

Dont lump me in with Tpeon, that hurts deep



Dead weight now, ouch

If you said Hayumi, maybe, but she has both my arms and a leg in the wood chipper again this game

Im an open book, where did you get this thought lol

Looking at your posts all at once, I was unfair on you. When I was catching up it felt like all I saw was gift and nonsense, but you have made several posts of actual substance. I grant you a stay of execution

 

[Indigo]

Like?

One of those things i can't discuss, since it's related to subs. So no talk here. And this is the main one tbh.

This thing combined with the self voting, and the way Flower is being extremely agressive, it makes me feel like the slot could be scum.

 

[Ratchet]

I don't want to get into a long boring back and forth with Fang - I'm missing a certain thing from him in these responses so I'm happy to vote there. I encourage people to sheep me!

 

[Ultra]

Man that guy in multiple forums must not like me lmao

Yes, but its actually much larger this game imo. A group of people are focusing on a bare minimum

The biggest connection I have seen is Ultra and Hayumi questioning the HeWhoHasNoEqual vote, but more just shades it and never really wants to know why I have him lock scum. And then ignores me when I try to get them engaged in the discussion

Dawg

He had no posts when you made the read

How could you possibly have him as lock anything

 

[Orwellian]

No you didn't. You haven't actually begun answering anything to me. You've just gone circular. When I asked you why you're voting Flower over Ultra, despite Ultra being in your "primary" PoE and Flower being in your "secondary", you said that Flower's wagon was "more viable" than Ultra's. Not only do I believe this to be demonstrably untrue, I think it doesn't make a lick of sense coming from you - the idea that you need to be concerned about viability around Ultra, one of your two main scum reads, does not hold up when you are actively seeking to create a wagon with less traction and less votes on another player who you admit to scum reading less. Your "solve" does not even begin to evidence why you would do this either - I do not have full insight into your thought patterns - no one does.

Vote: Orwellian

You have become my first scum read.

Its demonstrably true by Flower having already more votes and me resolving Ultra based off Flower. You are saber rattling and and ignoring what was said in other to play semantics. It is fine, you aren't getting me lynched today. You don't have any conviction and no amount of posturing on your part is going to divest or change the reality that Flower will resolve Ultra and vice versa.

 

[Ratchet]

One of those things i can't discuss, since it's related to subs. So no talk here. And this is the main one tbh.

This thing combined with the self voting, and the way Flower is being extremely agressive, it makes me feel like the slot could be scum.

The self vote part is weird I guess, but to what ends as scum exactly? Is pulling some weird stunt beyond her as town? I don't really think so. Bei g aggressive, certainly extremely aggressive, is not something I associate with her scum game, and I'm curious as to why you do so.

 

[Orwellian]

I don't want to get into a long boring back and forth with Fang - I'm missing a certain thing from him in these responses so I'm happy to vote there. I encourage people to sheep me!

What a cowardly tactic, you've ignored or sidestepped earlier posts detailing Flower's lack of town behavior and inconsistent actions and your OMGUS will not work.

You are now in the crosshairs.