Character Discussion Are people too critical when it comes to Sanji?

Are people too critical when it comes to Him?


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#41
The opposite,sanji has taken a shitton of Ls and his fans act like they dont mean shit.

Also sanji way below zoro in strength(let alone luffy) and his fans are coping like a mf all the time overcompensating.

Also his behaviour in WC passed cause his fans love him even tho it was ABSOLUTELY RETARDDED.


So no,sanjitard,if anything he's undercriticized
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No
And his fans are guilty of this saying if luffy and zoro can do this he also can or let's not forget written character crap based on having a second backstory?he cries?doubt himself?long speech?they don't even know what is this but I think KoL was the one who started this bs
But tbh oda is also guilty for his post TS treatment the gag has become his perrsonality characters like franky and Ussop have more hype than him and barely mr prince moments
PREACH my man,this whole "great character" "deep character" "fleshed out" bullshit is the most annoying shit in the history of the op fandom,his whole behaviour in WC was almost worthy of dropping the manga,his character had NO DEVELOPMENT at all throughout the series,he just got a backstory.

If anything,sanji doesnt get criticized enough considering how much more shitty of a character he's becoming every time oda puts him in the spotlight
 
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#42
The opposite,sanji has taken a shitton of Ls and his fans act like they dont mean shit.

Also sanji way below zoro in strength(let alone luffy) and his fans are coping like a mf all the time overcompensating.

Also his behaviour in WC passed cause his fans love him even tho it was ABSOLUTELY RETARDDED.


So no,sanjitard,if anything he's undercriticized
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PREACH my man,this whole "great character" "deep character" "fleshed out" bullshit is the most annoying shit in the history of the op fandom,his whole behaviour in WC was almost worthy of dropping the manga,his character had NO DEVELOPMENT at all throughout the series,he just got a backstory.

If anything,sanji doesnt get criticized enough considering how much more shitty of a character he's becoming every time oda puts him in the spotlight
Why is Sanji being way below Zoro and Luffy a bad thing, also why is his behavior at whole cake worthy of dropping one piece? You know why he was acting like that…. his family that abused him was interrupting his journey. And he didn’t want to get the crew involved in his mess. Sanji is self sacrificial to the point where it’s almost selfish and that’s a character flaw of his of course but that’s what makes it realistic. Everyone has their flaws.
 
#44
Why is Sanji being way below Zoro and Luffy a bad thing, also why is his behavior at whole cake worthy of dropping one piece? You know why he was acting like that…. his family that abused him was interrupting his journey. And he didn’t want to get the crew involved in his mess. Sanji is self sacrificial to the point where it’s almost selfish and that’s a character flaw of his of course but that’s what makes it realistic. Everyone has their flaws.
You got to admit Sanji pulled some really stupid ass shit in Whole Cake Island, and his family dilemma as an excuse for everything is a rather lazy cop out. Like can you really excuse Sanji's bright idea of escaping the BPM with Luffy by simply sky walking to safety with that family crap? And Sanji pulling a Robin 0.1 despite knowing that Luffy will never leave unless he goes with him is rated R for Retarded. And why was neither his PTSD for his family nor his family themselves were mentioned before the timeskip? Honestly Sanji's second flashback was completely unnecessary to his character. His 1st flashback was miles better.

There are a ton more problems with Sanji in WCI, but I'll keep it short here.
 
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#47
You got to admit Sanji pulled some really stupid ass shit in Whole Cake Island, and his family dilemma as an excuse for everything is a rather lazy cop out. Like can you really excuse Sanji's bright idea of escaping the BPM with Luffy by simply sky walking to safety with that family crap? And Sanji pulling a Robin 0.1 despite knowing that Luffy will never leave unless he goes with him is rated R for Retarded. And why has his PTSD for his family nor his family itself was mentioned before the timeskip? Honestly Sanji's second flashback was completely unnecessary to his character. His 1st flashback was miles better.

There are a ton more problems with Sanji in WCI, but I'll keep it short here.
Clearly you don’t remember the situation in WCI very well, They through away all of their mirror and made it so there was only one mirror Luffy could come out of, This on top of the fact that nearly the entire Big Mom crew was outside waiting by that mirror. Sanji also did not have a way to contact Luffy so the only option was to get Luffy and skywalk out of there . We never saw any Big Mom Pirates Sky walking before that moment and neither did Sanji . So you can’t fault Sanji for that idea . They wouldn’t have intercepted him if none of them could skywalk. From writing standpoint it’s probably good that Sanji didn’t just sky walk away from a Yonko Crew. where the stakes in that?


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You got to admit Sanji pulled some really stupid ass shit in Whole Cake Island, and his family dilemma as an excuse for everything is a rather lazy cop out. Like can you really excuse Sanji's bright idea of escaping the BPM with Luffy by simply sky walking to safety with that family crap? And Sanji pulling a Robin 0.1 despite knowing that Luffy will never leave unless he goes with him is rated R for Retarded. And why was neither his PTSD for his family nor his family themselves were mentioned before the timeskip? Honestly Sanji's second flashback was completely unnecessary to his character. His 1st flashback was miles better.

There are a ton more problems with Sanji in WCI, but I'll keep it short here.
And also The signs were always there. People had been theorizing About Sanjis royal origins long before the timeskip bruh.

 
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#48
People are indeed very critical of Sanji and it means one thing, he is highly regarded. You criticize the harshest what you had hopes for or what you admire.
You may notice that the biggest critics came in WCI because at that point, people were disappointed but had hopes that ''Sanji's arc'' is gonna redeem the character who was a wreck since the ts and it didn't.
Since WCI Sanji is seen as a ''joke'' character and the critics got milder.
 
#52
1- If it's about the latest chapter, he got clowned.
2- His most devoted fans got it coming, always pushing him to supposed top tier level and feats.
3- In this forum all characters get criticized just as much.
Not Zoro
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I think people are too critical of every relevant character

It's just Sanji's turn this week

It could be Luffy or Saturn's next week lol
Wrong
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Despite my Sanji slander, Sanji is a great character, but his big problem is that he has become a clown full of gags and only embarrasses himself.

Sanji is the one who should be on par with Luffy and Zoro as one of the strongest and most respectable SHs, but instead, Sanji plays empty roles in the arcs, serves as a hypetool for other characters and above all has the most boring gags and embarrassing aspects of the series like asking Stussy to call him a dog lol.
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Sanji should be that character that when he appears, readers are hyped and hoping that the character doesn't necessarily fight but gives the feeling of "Wow, Sanji showed up" but that's not what happens.
I actually respect this response
I can’t help but agree
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Despite my Sanji slander, Sanji is a great character, but his big problem is that he has become a clown full of gags and only embarrasses himself.

Sanji is the one who should be on par with Luffy and Zoro as one of the strongest and most respectable SHs, but instead, Sanji plays empty roles in the arcs, serves as a hypetool for other characters and above all has the most boring gags and embarrassing aspects of the series like asking Stussy to call him a dog lol.
:whitepress:

Sanji should be that character that when he appears, readers are hyped and hoping that the character doesn't necessarily fight but gives the feeling of "Wow, Sanji showed up" but that's not what happens.
I actually respect this response
I can’t help but agree
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His performance is way too underwhelming for a character that has been around so long
Bodying queen and a seraphim+running across the entire island of egghead saving nami, edison and bonney=underwhelming

I bet zoro looks god tier to you by facing an opponent who already got fodderized twice huh?
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Ah. My bad. Honestly the Sanji v Queen fight as a whole was pretty forgettable ngl.
But King vs Zoro was Gogeta vs Broly tier huh? Better yet Gojo vs Sukuna tier?
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It was forgettable because we already saw Queen get stomped by an amnesiac Yonko and almost Soul Pocus-diffed, which makes Sanji look relatively unimpressive considering how much effort it took to put him down. Same with an Admiral stomping Queen.
So will you keep that same energy when or if Zoro defeats Lucci or will you just immediately call it impressive just cause it’s zoro doing it despite Lucci losing TWICE in the same arc beforehand?
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If Zoro was coughing blood and got eye-diffed by Saturn instead of Sanji you know damn well the toxicity would be far higher. Let us be real here my fellow agenda pushers okay? Sanji is, was, and always will be a hype tool when Oda needs him to be. Some of his fans can't just accept this I know, but that does not change the facts.

Like genuinely, if you think this is the last time? Saddle up because Oda has a few more potential Top Tiers he needs to hype. Prepare for Sanji getting his super-bones broken by an Elbaf big shot now instead of later. Because the next hype tool moment IS coming. Just a matter of when.
Wrong
Sanji is by far the most hated and downplayed character in the entire series

If this happened to zoro, there would barely be any toxicity at all lol the guy would just get a pat on the back and his fandom would just make excuses about him not wearing his fucking bandana or something
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The opposite,sanji has taken a shitton of Ls and his fans act like they dont mean shit.

Also sanji way below zoro in strength(let alone luffy) and his fans are coping like a mf all the time overcompensating.

Also his behaviour in WC passed cause his fans love him even tho it was ABSOLUTELY RETARDDED.


So no,sanjitard,if anything he's undercriticized
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PREACH my man,this whole "great character" "deep character" "fleshed out" bullshit is the most annoying shit in the history of the op fandom,his whole behaviour in WC was almost worthy of dropping the manga,his character had NO DEVELOPMENT at all throughout the series,he just got a backstory.

If anything,sanji doesnt get criticized enough considering how much more shitty of a character he's becoming every time oda puts him in the spotlight
With shit takes like this, it’s no wonder you were banned
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Why is Sanji being way below Zoro and Luffy a bad thing, also why is his behavior at whole cake worthy of dropping one piece? You know why he was acting like that…. his family that abused him was interrupting his journey. And he didn’t want to get the crew involved in his mess. Sanji is self sacrificial to the point where it’s almost selfish and that’s a character flaw of his of course but that’s what makes it realistic. Everyone has their flaws.
Zoro fans can’t read you know this. The only good character writing they understand is “Badass character vs Badass character=badass character wins!”

Literal NPC’s
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no its post like this that make the people who dont really care for him be "critical".
Yet a zorotard like you cant resist speaking on him
 
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#53
The hypocrisy of some here is remarkable lmfao
The same people who spend all their time creating threads to slander him over minor actions or whatever want to moralize here?
The truth is that some people just want Sanji to be as relevant as brook lol

Dozens of users have told us that jimbei will replace sanji, but how many users actually point out that jimbei is a fraud on egghead? None lol, why? Because the only relevant thing is to slander sanji and tell us he'll never be as relevant because some people don't accept his place in history.
 
#55
The hypocrisy of some here is remarkable lmfao
The same people who spend all their time creating threads to slander him over minor actions or whatever want to moralize here?
The truth is that some people just want Sanji to be as relevant as brook lol

Dozens of users have told us that jimbei will replace sanji, but how many users actually point out that jimbei is a fraud on egghead? None lol, why? Because the only relevant thing is to slander sanji and tell us he'll never be as relevant because some people don't accept his place in history.
Jinbei has been useless the whole arc, they're not talking because their agenda has been failing since Wano

Sanji is hated by zoro fans because Oda doesn't stop grouping him with Zoro and Sanji always does more in an arc than zoro

Without battles, Zoro is almost irrelevant
 
#56
Its expected since every time Zoro fans take an L, they are gonna find a way to shit on Sanji, he is the outlet to vent their faillures on.

See what i am talking about? Victim complex from Zoro fans even though they are bullies with insane takes themselves, certainly way more than any Sanji fan the majority of us has seen.
Why’d you join this forum?

90% of your post is “hurr durr Zoro fans L” “Mihawk trash” & trolling.

Genuinely curious why users like yourself join a community to have a discord on OP but you’d rather make foolish statements why?
 
#57
You wish Sanji can be as relevant as Brook.
Brook's part of the hellfire gang, he just built different.

Jinbei has been useless the whole arc, they're not talking because their agenda has been failing since Wano

Sanji is hated by zoro fans because Oda doesn't stop grouping him with Zoro and Sanji always does more in an arc than zoro

Without battles, Zoro is almost irrelevant
And then you wake up , no walking L you slurp on a daily basis is ever going to be more relevant or stronger than Zoro. :risiup:
 
#58
The hypocrisy of some here is remarkable lmfao
The same people who spend all their time creating threads to slander him over minor actions or whatever want to moralize here?
The truth is that some people just want Sanji to be as relevant as brook lol

Dozens of users have told us that jimbei will replace sanji, but how many users actually point out that jimbei is a fraud on egghead? None lol, why? Because the only relevant thing is to slander sanji and tell us he'll never be as relevant because some people don't accept his place in history.
Funnily enough this work perfectly well with another character (who even have his dream being question and belittle on the regular) but it does not seems to bother you guys this much :saden:

OT: I don’t know if people are too critical because from my point of view the character is pretty shielded from criticisms regarding his flaws. It seems that a big part of the One piece community is cool with Sanji as far as he can be put next to Zoro in any argument.
The whole « the deepest character » being just a cope because whenever Sanji does not met powerscalling expectations people will talk about his « character development » (which is inexistant post time skip).
 
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#59
Funnily enough this work perfectly well with another character (who even have his dream being question and belittle on the regular) but it does not seems to bother you guys this much :saden :

OT: I don’t know if people are too critical because from my point of view the character is pretty shielded from criticisms regarding his flaws. It seems that a big part of the One piece community is cool with Sanji as far as he can be put next to Zoro is any argument.
The whole « the deepest character » being just a cope because whenever Sanji does not met powerscalling expectations people will talk about his « character development » (which is inexistant post time skip).
I prefer people to be honest lol

I prefer people to admit they are following sanji to slander him instead of being hypocrites here lol

And it's only fair since I'm doing the same to zoro in a more moderate way lol
 
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