I guess mass bombing in a week and killing 3500 defenseless civilians is not genocide.
First of all, can you source the deaths and prove they were definitely not a false flag (as the hospital one is insinuated to be)?

Secondly they're attacking in response to the terror attacks. All gloves come off when you butcher people, bud.
 
Reporter Motaz_Azaiza posted a video, of the building across from him getting blown up. Same lights in the sky as yesterday's attack on the hospital, same whistling sound, just before impact as yesterday and the same explosion as yesterday's hospital attack. You can also hear the jet/s fly past just before impact.

And just like yesterday it was 🇮🇱 who also did this attack

https://instagram.com/stories/motaz_azaiza/3216485228049340064?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
 
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...9700-wounded-israeli-strikes-gaza-2023-10-16/
2800 killed. And that was 2 days ago.
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The IDF lied about the beheaded babies. They lie all the goddamn time. There is a real chance they were the ones that bombed that hospital.
mods need to start doing something about disinformation, this is getting ridiculous
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also @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk is so blatantly an alt...

all but like 2-3 messages are in this thread, be a little less obvious
 
mods need to start doing something about disinformation, this is getting ridiculous
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also @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk is so blatantly an alt...

all but like 2-3 messages are in this thread, be a little less obvious
Hmm you seem stressed. Is it about the number of civilians 🇮🇱 have murdered or are you off your beta blockers?
 
So you kill innocent civilians in response? How are innocents responsible for this? I knew you were heartless but jesus...
No, I'm saying that enemies do exist, and if people commit slaughter against civilians, it's likely going to result in civilians being slaughtered in return. Is it right? No. Can I understand a visceral desire for 'revenge'? Yes. If someone harmed my wife, killed her, raped her, I would see red. I can imagine a lot of Israelis feel that way.

This is essentially a "poor Palestine, poor innocent Palestine," argument. They fucking elected Hamas, bro. Doesn't matter if the right to vote was rescinded. People wanted that form of governance at first.

Furthermore, please prove to me that they lied about decapitating babies too. Prove it, or is it a 'trust me bro' moment?

I'm not heartless. I'm just not a histrionic. You seem to be unable to recognize this. To overly feel everything, constantly, is not good. I have my own sensitive topics -- but sheesh.
 
No, I'm saying that enemies do exist, and if people commit slaughter against civilians, it's likely going to result in civilians being slaughtered in return. Is it right? No. Can I understand a visceral desire for 'revenge'? Yes. If someone harmed my wife, killed her, raped her, I would see red. I can imagine a lot of Israelis feel that way.

This is essentially a "poor Palestine, poor innocent Palestine," argument. They fucking elected Hamas, bro. Doesn't matter if the right to vote was rescinded. People wanted that form of governance at first.

Furthermore, please prove to me that they lied about decapitating babies too. Prove it, or is it a 'trust me bro' moment?

I'm not heartless. I'm just not a histrionic. You seem to be unable to recognize this. To overly feel everything, constantly, is not good. I have my own sensitive topics -- but sheesh.
This is not a shonen manga man. You don't kill innocents just because a terrorist group did it. That's how half a million iraqis died in the first place. You're a privileged first world kid that has never had to deal with real struggle like the gazans living in an open air prison or not having clean water to drink. Your lack of emapthy is palpable, and truly cringeworthy.

Btw a lot of the victim's families have called for a ceasefire, those who experience real loss are able to gauge how painful it is to lose a child or a parent regardless of who you are. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
This is not a shonen manga man. You don't kill innocents just because a terrorist group did it. That's how half a million iraqis died in the first place. You're a privileged first world kid that has never had to deal with real struggle like the gazans living in an open air prison or not having clean water to drink. Your lack of emapthy is palpable, and truly cringeworthy.

Btw a lot of the victim's families have called for a ceasefire, those who experience real loss are able to gauge how painful it is to lose a child or a parent regardless of who you are. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I am not ashamed. I never once said I endorsed it. As always, you mischaracterize and speak down at others like you're everybody's teacher.

I said I can empathise with the original rage that caused the counterstrikes. Furthermore, I am 1st world, but don't try to speak of other's experiences. You know nothing but your own story.

I'm not saying kill all the civilians. I am saying, if anything, eradicate each and every one of the terrorists, and I stand by that.
 
I am not ashamed. I never once said I endorsed it. As always, you mischaracterize and speak down at others like you're everybody's teacher.

I said I can empathise with the original rage that caused the counterstrikes. Furthermore, I am 1st world, but don't try to speak of other's experiences. You know nothing but your own story.

I'm not saying kill all the civilians. I am saying, if anything, eradicate each and every one of the terrorists, and I stand by that.
The way they are eradicating terrorist ends up having a 90% civilian casualty rate. And true, I don't know your life experience, but I'm willing to bet a million dollars you've never had to drink toxic water or been displaced from your own home by colonizers and settlers. You have a lot of "empathy" for IDF terrorists and Israeli civilians (which is valid) But where is your empathy for the hundreds if not thousands of children that have been murdered by the Israeli government last week? What about their rage? They've been humilliated for 70 years, imprisoned, tortured, forced to live in an open air prison and watch as their oppressors kill their children and control every single aspect of their lives? You don't know or want to understand their struggles.
 
there are no proofs
when faced with facts the goal post shifts
the rocket failing was confirmed on so many sources, and now confirmed in a lot of mainstream media and by the US and Biden.

I think the babies thing did have some fake news about it, I think they lumped babies, infants, kids and teenagers into that number. I have personally seen tons of gore and know someone who patrolled that area and was told it's real.

They support Hamas. since 2006 nothing happened. No coup attemp. No calls for help. Just support or silent support for Hamas
all this international support will fade within 2 months, at most.

same with Ukraine, same with everything

eventually something else will come up and headlines like "1200 Civillians killed in Gaza" will be buried by opinion pieces complaining about the US not giving enough aid to whoever
 
The way they are eradicating terrorist ends up having a 90% civilian casualty rate. And true, I don't know your life experience, but I'm willing to bet a million dollars you've never had to drink toxic water or been displaced from your own home by colonizers and settlers. You have a lot of "empathy" for IDF terrorists and Israeli civilians (which is valid) But where is your empathy for the hundreds if not thousands of children that have been murdered by the Israeli government last week? What about their rage? They've been humilliated for 70 years, imprisoned, tortured, forced to live in an open air prison and watch as their oppressors kill their children and control every single aspect of their lives? You don't know or want to understand their struggles.
If we can argue the 70 years of hurt, we can also argue that Israel, or that land, originally belonged to the Jews, once upon a time.

As for your statements. They're very specific so you'd Win that bet, but I've been displaced before. I've been forced, by circumstance, to drink polluted water... but I have not experienced Gaza, no.

Look, our convos seem to always be arguments. I'd like to extend some olive branch of peace -- especially since I am also guilty of propagating it.

If you'd be willing, I'd like to settle things through rational talking, a discord or Skype or whatever kind of call. Maybe by adding a face to each other, we can stop what is essentially a never ending argument.
 
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If we can argue the 70 years of hurt, we can also argue that Israel, or that land, originally belonged to the Jews, once upon a time.

As for your statements. They're very specific so you'd Win that bet, but I've been displaced before. I've been forced, by circumstance, to drink polluted water... but I have not experienced Gaza, no.

Look, out convos seem to always be arguments. I'd like to extend some olive branch of peace -- especially since I am also guilty of propagating it.

If you'd be willing, I'd like to settle things through rational talking, a discord or Skype or whatever kind of call. Maybe by adding a face to each other, we can stop what is essentially a never ending argument.
I'm not gonna call you wtf??
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e can also argue that Israel, or that land, originally belonged to the Jews, once upon a time.
How can you compare 70 years of contemporary history to some shit that happened more than a thousand years ago. Askhenazi Jews are mostly of European ancestry, there's a reason as to why the Palestinians are considered indigenous to the region. You clearly lack basic knowledge on the matter, and you're more than willing to draw false equivalences just for the sake of winning the argument.
 
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I'm not gonna call you wtf??
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How can you compare 70 years of contemporary history to some shit that happened more than a thousand years ago. Askhenazi Jews are mostly of European ancestry, there's a reason as to why the Palestinians are considered indigenous to the region. You clearly lack basic knowledge on the matter, and you're more than willing to draw false equivalences just for the sake of winning the argument.
Wdym mostly european? Does the ratio of jew/european really matter?
 
Wdym mostly european? Does the ratio of jew/european really matter?
Cause that means they're not indigenous to the region. Let me use myself as an example. I have around 15% native south american ancestry. If you look at white americans, some of them have 5 to 10 percent of native ancestry. Still, would you consider contemporary white americans as "indigenous" to the region? Don't think so. The Palestinians are in fact indigenous to what you now call Israel, genetic studies deem it so. Meaning in reality, this is just another case of European colonizers taking over and destroying the native population.

Edit: being a Jew and European is not mutually exclusive, wtf are you talking about?
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https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
 
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