Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1096 Spoilers Discussion

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Haki transcends all was just the ideology of Kaido, who failed showing his ideology was wrong. It’s like how Don Krieg saying Military might was all that matters.

Just from a story writing, you think oda would write half the manga without the main power system? It’s clear DFs are the big ones seeing how the Gorosei and seemingly Imu are power users with hax and the ultimate pirate villains are devil fruit power hunters.
He absolutely would...

Don't do this...

Don't go against the author just to wank
your fave with no haki :perocry:
 
Exactly my point with the final clash, the strength of Bajrang Gun was from Luffys fruit, but the haki was supplementary to allow Luffy to punch Kaido without touching him but in the end the main piece was on Gear 5, luffys awakening.

Oda has established the final villains, and they’re DF hoarders and users and actively hunt and take powerful devil fruits to become stronger.

Luffys haki was never stronger than Kaidos. Luffy won because his fruit made him physically stronger and the haki was used to not let Kaido burn him to crisp.

Why do you think the big villains are all hyped by being power users?
Because haki transcends all, did you read everything or just start typing :milaugh:sure the gorosei have strong dfs and imu as well and sure bb and his crew are collecting dfs, but the writing is clear as day man even if you do not want to give bb coating. BB has darkness fruit that will take joy boy powers away. How in the heck do you think luffy will fight back against that and quake powers??? His haki will transcend them both and if bb is a conqueror which i highly believe in then luffy will surpass 2 dfs and bb own ambition/haki in the end because it transcends all. Df abilities can only go so far without strong haki you can only make it so far...with strong haki you can straight up counter some dfs as shown by law who isnt even a strong haki user.

Luffy won that final clash because his haki was stronger thats literally whats established in the story lol see zoro vs pica panel and luffy vs drunk kaido...the one with the stronger haki won the clashes.
 

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Haki transcends all was just the ideology of Kaido, who failed showing his ideology was wrong. It’s like how Don Krieg saying Military might was all that matters.

Just from a story writing, you think oda would write half the manga without the main power system? It’s clear DFs are the big ones seeing how the Gorosei and seemingly Imu are power users with hax and the ultimate pirate villains are devil fruit power hunters.
Nah it's just not the ideology of kaido


There are few things going on which indicates haki transcends df


1) Roger being PK without df

2) Garp cornered Roger and he was dfless as well

3)Shanks and Mihawk

4)Luffy vs BB might go down in a way where haki of Luffy giving him the edge

5) Will of D and we know will power is correlated with Haki....



Yes, future opponents are stacked but even they will have haki..top class haki
 
Exactly my point with the final clash, the strength of Bajrang Gun was from Luffys fruit, but the haki was supplementary to allow Luffy to punch Kaido without touching him but in the end the main piece was on Gear 5, luffys awakening.

Oda has established the final villains, and they’re DF hoarders and users and actively hunt and take powerful devil fruits to become stronger.

Luffys haki was never stronger than Kaidos. Luffy won because his fruit made him physically stronger and the haki was used to not let Kaido burn him to crisp.

Why do you think the big villains are all hyped by being power users?
It appears to me that through DF mastery you increase your Haki level. It's like the more you master yourself and conquer your DF the stronger is your Haki.

So, it's not a matter that DFs are obsolete now after gaining a strong enough Haki, but that with a stronger Df and stronger DF mastery your inherent Haki can be enlarged and strengthened beyond where you naturally cap at.
 
Rocks side:
Xebec, WB, BM, Shiki -> top-tiers
High-tiers to low top-tiers:
Captain John
Silver Axe
Wang Zhi
Kaido

WG side:
Roger, Garp, Rayleigh, Saturn, Gaban, Garling -> low top-tiers to top-tiers

Kong wasn’t on GV based on early leaks (?), he probably was just talking to Garp. We don’t know if Saturn fights as well. The sides looks pretty even although I’d say Rocks has an edge if the big names like Captain John, and Wang Zhi were mid top-tiers or something. We don’t know their exact powerlevel, but Teach implied that even old Wang Zhi was a big shot.
 
Because haki transcends all, did you read everything or just start typing :milaugh:sure the gorosei have strong dfs and imu as well and sure bb and his crew are collecting dfs, but the writing is clear as day man even if you do not want to give bb coating. BB has darkness fruit that will take joy boy powers away. How in the heck do you think luffy will fight back against that and quake powers??? His haki will transcend them both and if bb is a conqueror which i highly believe in then luffy will surpass 2 dfs and bb own ambition/haki in the end because it transcends all. Df abilities can only go so far without strong haki you can only make it so far...with strong haki you can straight up counter some dfs as shown by law who isnt even a strong haki user.

Luffy won that final clash because his haki was stronger thats literally whats established in the story lol see zoro vs pica panel and luffy vs drunk kaido...the one with the stronger haki won the clashes.
You’re assuming luffys going to beat Blackbeard because of his haki, but we don’t know that yet.

Luffy won that final clash becuase his fruit made him strong enough to knock Kaido out. Only thing his haki did was allow luffy to punch Kaido without touching him.

wait… are you saying luffys haki randomly got stronger when he used gear 5???
 
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