I am not cherry picking, C4N doesn’t seek to only explain. Whenever the atrocities are brought up he likes to caveat with a “but Palestinians are the ones oppresses”
Because we must ALWAYS remind ourself : WHO has the power in this conflict and therefore WHO has the power to calm it and create peace.
 
Indeed, but you had the chance not to be under bombing during this process or under occupation and oppression.. Far from me to compare the two situation but in this case, this is uncomparable.
I can agree I wasn't under bombing, yes. We don't agree on oppression politics, but I do acknowledge everyone has their struggles. My heart goes out to them, but should they commit evil acts, well, I consider them evil.
 
Because we must ALWAYS remind ourself : WHO has the power in this conflict and therefore WHO has the power to calm it and create peace.
Again, issue is once you normalized violence due to the “oppression” there’s no guarantee peace can be attained. Circle back to the Rwanda genocide
 
Issue with your statement is that the Tutsi did have power until they were targeted by the Hutu. It’s no secret colonial powers preferred them
You're using another conflict to prove your point and conveniently brush the overarching issue(colonialism) aside.

He's pointing out something that those who disagree with his ideology think. It's an excuse for vigilante acts and evil
Stop gaslighting. I was not excusing anything.
For example, a black man from the middle class told me that I "could never understand poverty and should just be quiet on the issue because I'm white," which was just ridiculous. Not only is poverty a class issue, but it's just stupid logic. People use their positions as "the oppressed" to bludgeon others. It's evident. It doesn't always happen, but you cannot ignore that there are malicious actors.
Completely different topic.
I am not cherry picking, C4N doesn’t seek to only explain. Whenever the atrocities bare brought up he likes to caveat with a “but Pa
I didn't see that you were referring to c4n's post alone.
You done now? You're acting like a child. I was speaking my own anecdotal evidence and why I think he is wrong. I'll speak in the third person from now on.
Read my whole post and you understand why I paraphrased you like this.🙄
 
Everything in this world is about power and domination balances.

If you want to fix an issue, ALWAYS look at who has the power.

This works for military conflict, but this works also in daily life too. People don't understand why feminist target the oppression of men. Its simply because in that case, MEN have the power in all strates of societies.

It also works with capitalism, with ecology with pretty much EVERYTHING.
 
Again, issue is once you normalized violence due to the “oppression” there’s no guarantee peace can be attained. Circle back to the Rwanda genocide
I know a man from SA who says that blacks in SA use apartheid as an excuse for killing whites and taking land. Before anyone asks, the man who told me this is black.

Historically people will latch onto any excuse to justify their own barbaric actions. Oppression is a perfect one.

Stop gaslighting. I was not excusing anything.

Completely different topic.

Read my whole post and you understand why I paraphrased you like this.🙄
That was not about you. It was what Roo was on about, you imbecile.

Different topic? Perhaps, but it emphasizes my point. The 'oppressed' will bludgeon the supposed 'oppressors' unjustly -- just like Hamas who punished Israel civilians rather than the IDF.

I read it and it's as reactionary as always, and, in the case of what I responded to, vitriolic. I stand by my point.
 
Again, issue is once you normalized violence due to the “oppression” there’s no guarantee peace can be attained. Circle back to the Rwanda genocide
What do you mean by "normalizing violence" ? No one is normalizing violence. NO ONE.
We only say.

To the power in power, STOP. Only you can make the conflict stop. Not the one under oppression. To fix the Gaza conflict, we must understand that the IDF has to stop first and show its back. They have the power to stop the violence without being violent themself. This is called the iron dome.

Once the violence on the opposite side is denouced enough to be stop, then, peace can come, but we can't have peace by targetting young people who are angry because you are already targetting them. it will only lead to more radicalization.

There are only two possibility to end the conflict in gaza:

The atomic bomb on Gaza to completely stop the radicalization process (but you will need to bomb the cis jordanie too)
Or
A cease fire from IDF and actual peace with two real state and the end of colonization.

What do you think is better ?
 
The first insult in what felt like ages, congrats.👏🏽👏🏻👏🏼👏👏🏿👏🏾
You can act sarcastic, but you cannot refute the point.

You first reacted to something that wasn't about you, saying I was GASLIGHTING about what YOU said: "Me me me," much? :seriously:

Then you ignore that examples and comparison can complement each other.

Just stop, man. It's pathetic.
 
What do you mean by "normalizing violence" ? No one is normalizing violence. NO ONE.
We only say.

To the power in power, STOP. Only you can make the conflict stop. Not the one under oppression. To fix the Gaza conflict, we must understand that the IDF has to stop first and show its back. They have the power to stop the violence without being violent themself. This is called the iron dome.
That is normalizing violence. You’re giving one side a pass to be as violent as possible while the other has to be a Buddhist monk. That is irrational.



There are only two possibility to end the conflict in gaza:

The atomic bomb on Gaza to completely stop the radicalization process (but you will need to bomb the cis jordanie too)
Or
A cease fire from IDF and actual peace with two real state and the end of colonization.

What do you think is better ?
false dichotomy. Diplomacy isn’t as easy as “A or B”
 
You can act sarcastic, but you cannot refute the point.

You first reacted to something that wasn't about you, saying I was GASLIGHTING about what YOU said: "Me me me," much? :seriously:

Then you ignore that examples and comparison can complement each other.

Just stop, man. It's pathetic.
Seems like you lost your ability to understand posts. Here, pet this bunny
 
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