I am not cherry picking, C4N doesn’t seek to only explain. Whenever the atrocities are brought up he likes to caveat with a “but Palestinians are the ones oppresses”
Indeed, but you had the chance not to be under bombing during this process or under occupation and oppression.. Far from me to compare the two situation but in this case, this is uncomparable.
I can agree I wasn't under bombing, yes. We don't agree on oppression politics, but I do acknowledge everyone has their struggles. My heart goes out to them, but should they commit evil acts, well, I consider them evil.
For example, a black man from the middle class told me that I "could never understand poverty and should just be quiet on the issue because I'm white," which was just ridiculous. Not only is poverty a class issue, but it's just stupid logic. People use their positions as "the oppressed" to bludgeon others. It's evident. It doesn't always happen, but you cannot ignore that there are malicious actors.
You done now? You're acting like a child. I was speaking my own anecdotal evidence and why I think he is wrong. I'll speak in the third person from now on.
Everything in this world is about power and domination balances.
If you want to fix an issue, ALWAYS look at who has the power.
This works for military conflict, but this works also in daily life too. People don't understand why feminist target the oppression of men. Its simply because in that case, MEN have the power in all strates of societies.
It also works with capitalism, with ecology with pretty much EVERYTHING.
I know a man from SA who says that blacks in SA use apartheid as an excuse for killing whites and taking land. Before anyone asks, the man who told me this is black.
Historically people will latch onto any excuse to justify their own barbaric actions. Oppression is a perfect one.
That was not about you. It was what Roo was on about, you imbecile.
Different topic? Perhaps, but it emphasizes my point. The 'oppressed' will bludgeon the supposed 'oppressors' unjustly -- just like Hamas who punished Israel civilians rather than the IDF.
I read it and it's as reactionary as always, and, in the case of what I responded to, vitriolic. I stand by my point.
What do you mean by "normalizing violence" ? No one is normalizing violence. NO ONE.
We only say.
To the power in power, STOP. Only you can make the conflict stop. Not the one under oppression. To fix the Gaza conflict, we must understand that the IDF has to stop first and show its back. They have the power to stop the violence without being violent themself. This is called the iron dome.
Once the violence on the opposite side is denouced enough to be stop, then, peace can come, but we can't have peace by targetting young people who are angry because you are already targetting them. it will only lead to more radicalization.
There are only two possibility to end the conflict in gaza:
The atomic bomb on Gaza to completely stop the radicalization process (but you will need to bomb the cis jordanie too) Or
A cease fire from IDF and actual peace with two real state and the end of colonization.
What do you mean by "normalizing violence" ? No one is normalizing violence. NO ONE.
We only say.
To the power in power, STOP. Only you can make the conflict stop. Not the one under oppression. To fix the Gaza conflict, we must understand that the IDF has to stop first and show its back. They have the power to stop the violence without being violent themself. This is called the iron dome.
That is normalizing violence. You’re giving one side a pass to be as violent as possible while the other has to be a Buddhist monk. That is irrational.
There are only two possibility to end the conflict in gaza:
The atomic bomb on Gaza to completely stop the radicalization process (but you will need to bomb the cis jordanie too) Or
A cease fire from IDF and actual peace with two real state and the end of colonization.
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