But they don't have rocks... do they? They fire rockets, ffs.
This is an analogy. While the hamas has rocket. Israel has the iron dome that surpass those rocket and have the FREAKING ATOMIC BOMB.

WHO has the power here ? Come on. you are almost there.


The reason why Hamas got popular in the first place was because of the second intifada in which they proved violence gets results. Same as Hezbollah when they repelled Israelis forces
Yes, violence, fueled by anger. none of my point are false here.


I want both people to stop, but you can’t tell the guy with the gun to stop shooting when the guy with the rock keeps attacking him
YES YOU F CAN.
If you can't do that you are a fool playing with big guns.
The one with the power must ALWAYS stop first, and accept their responsibility and power in the conflict to permit to the other guys to stop the guy with the rock.. Or annihilate completely the adversary, meaning shooting the guy with a rock.

Right now, our gov are supporting the last option where the FIRST should be the logic.
 
This is an analogy. While the hamas has rocket. Israel has the iron dome that surpass those rocket and have the FREAKING ATOMIC BOMB.

WHO has the power here ? Come on. you are almost there.



Yes, violence, fueled by anger. none of my point are false here.



YES YOU F CAN.
If you can't do that you are a fool playing with big guns.
The one with the power must ALWAYS stop first, and accept their responsibility and power in the conflict to permit to the other guys to stop the guy with the rock.. Or annihilate completely the adversary, meaning shooting the guy with a rock.

Right now, our gov are supporting the last option where the FIRST should be the logic.
I think you're working under the presumption that Hamas wants 'peace'. I cannot speak for them, but given that they consider this Jihad, do you honestly believe they want peaceful coexistence? Not to support the IDF, but if they put their guns down at this point they'll just be killed. Do you disagree? Honestly curious.


He raped a Palestinian girl 😃
And he killed a cage full of Palestinians 😃
And then we chased them with flamethrowers 😃

Why would their kids hold grudges over this? It ain't the same generation. Are they stupid?
I don't hold a grudge against modern-day Germans. I'm not sure if that's controversial, but I had plenty of family members die by Nazi German hands. Should I hate all their descendants?
 
Yes, violence, fueled by anger. none of my point are false here.
Because you keep ignoring the harsh reality that if violence gets results, violence becomes a more popular means of getting things done

YES YOU F CAN.
If you can't do that you are a fool playing with big guns.
The one with the power must ALWAYS stop first, and accept their responsibility and power in the conflict to permit to the other guys to stop the guy with the rock.. Or annihilate completely the adversary, meaning shooting the guy with a rock.

Right now, our gov are supporting the last option where the FIRST should be the logic.
You have to get the guy with a gun to be comfortable to stop. And by that means getting the guy with a rock to stop as well
 
Because you keep ignoring the harsh reality that if violence gets results, violence becomes a more popular means of getting things done

You have to get the guy with a gun to be comfortable to stop. And by that means getting the guy with a rock to stop as well
There is also the point that once something escalates to violence it's almost impossible to quell without willing ceasefires from both parties. One can't just put their weapons down and not expect the other side to seize their chance. It's war.
 
Before Hamas' even came into being it was the Palestinians vs the white supremacists zionists.

Then it was the PLO vs the white supremacists zionists.

Then it was Hamas vs the white supremacists zionists.

And if Hamas suddenly disappeared in the next hour, it would just go back to being the palestinians vs the white supremacists zionists.

The common denominator of all violence in that region goes back to the people behind the King David Hotel bombing and it wasn't the palestinians or hamas that did it.


Obviously arab/Muslim hating, athiests/evangelical Christian/zionist (pick your poison) in here don't care or refuse to see it.

Netanyahu and his like will get there's one day, that's a given
 
I think you're working under the presumption that Hamas wants 'peace'.
No, PALESTINIANS want peace. And the Hamas is constituated by radicalized Palestianian. You must kill the snake by staving it. You can't kill it with a gun. Meaning that you can only defeat hamas by creating a way for the palestinian deny the Hamas as a legitimate way to make revenge or peace.

That way, only the most foundamentalist and radicalized people will stay, and you will be able to pick them up like flowers in grass.


Because you keep ignoring the harsh reality that if violence gets results, violence becomes a more popular means of getting things done
The palestinian are not the one in power. Therefore its not up to them to resolve this conflict. The one with power must end the conflict and offer a way for the palestinian to stop violence. Meaning giving them something better to seak peace than violence:

- Cease fire
- Two state
- End of colonization
- Humanitary roads
- End of oppression of gaza
- Apology of the israelian gov.


You have to get the guy with a gun to be comfortable to stop
No. A guy with a gun will never be confortable if he feels threatened by a guy with a rock.

A third party must intervene.

Meaning US. (not usa, US)
 
The palestinian are not the one in power. Therefore its not up to them to resolve this conflict. The one with power must end the conflict and offer a way for the palestinian to stop violence. Meaning giving them something better to seak peace than violence:

- Cease fire
- Two state
- End of colonization
- Humanitary roads
- End of oppression of gaza
- Apology of the israelian gov.



No. A guy with a gun will never be confortable if he feels threatened by a guy with a rock.

A third party must intervene.

Meaning US. (not usa, US)
See the difference between you and me is I don’t infantilize anyone. Palestinian people need to come to the table in a peace deal. You don’t do those unilaterally
 
No. A guy with a gun will never be confortable if he feels threatened by a guy with a rock.
You know, I think I realise the problem now. You're equating it in such a manner like it is two people. It is not. Sure, the government with the nukes will feel safer, but do their populace? Their populace are still just weak, fleshy people who can be killed with knives, bullets, etc. If Hamas was not a threat to civilians, I wouldn't even bring that up... but it's not just the ones in power who need to be considered. Palestine/Hamas are still a threat to the Israeli populace, regardless of the differentials in their weapon quality.
 
And if Hamas suddenly disappeared in the next hour, it would just go back to being the palestinians vs the white supremacists zionists.

Obviously arab/Muslim hating, athiests/evangelical Christian/zionist (pick your poison) in here don't care or refuse to see it.
Of course a Jew hating, Muslim-supremacist would see it that way! See... see how you sound? Fucking hell, bro. You're being just as racist as the people you seemingly despise.
 
Before Hamas' even came into being it was the Palestinians vs the white supremacists zionists.

Then it was the PLO vs the white supremacists zionists.

Then it was Hamas vs the white supremacists zionists.

And if Hamas suddenly disappeared in the next hour, it would just go back to being the palestinians vs the white supremacists zionists.

The common denominator of all violence in that region goes back to the people behind the King David Hotel bombing and it wasn't the palestinians or hamas that did it.


Obviously arab/Muslim hating, athiests/evangelical Christian/zionist (pick your poison) in here don't care or refuse to see it.

Netanyahu and his like will get there's one day, that's a given
That's because these geniuses have been following the conflict only since October 7th

And were it not for the white guilt over letting the Holocaust happen (or commiting it, in the case of Germany) the western support for Israel would be halved.

Ironically, by not stopping their agression, they are letting the Holocaust of Palestinians continue for God knows how many years.

I've followed this struggle since I could read, and come from a country that suffered its own genocide 30 years ago. Had family members burned alive in their homes because of their religion.

These Western geniuses all miss one thing - they have never, NEVER, for multiple generations now, known what war feels like. How many wars since WW2 did Americans have on their home soil? The Brits? The French?

The fear born from constant bombardment and concentration camps is nothing more than a Hollywood movie for you, or at best a story from Gramps. But and the hate that fear breeds in people that are bombarded and told not to retaliate because "both sides are bad" is something you can't even begin to understand.
 
Of course a Jew hating, Muslim-supremacist would see it that way! See... see how you sound? Fucking hell, bro. You're being just as racist as the people you seemingly despise.
I get it, its a common thing with you that ive learnt so far, but its Zionist hating*, you just got a little confused there.

Sounds perfectly fine to me. The only people on the side of the zionists are those that I've listed. If that makes you uncomfortable than its good, cause it should
 
I get it, its a common thing with you that ive learnt so far, but its Zionist hating*, you just got a little confused there.

Sounds perfectly fine to me. The only people on the side of the zionists are those that I've listed. If that makes you uncomfortable than its good, cause it should
But the thing is, people of your ilk often or not exhibit an extreme Muslim bias, and, even more often than not, an Islamic in-group bias. I don't agree with the IDF, nor the Israeli government, but the people (Israeli citizens) are there now, you can't just displace them in some misplaced form of justice. The two-state solution is the only one that solves the humanitarian crisis.

Zionist-hating is a nice little way of excusing their bigotry. No, your constant quoting of 'white supremacy' is a dog whistle, bro. I'm not confused. You're just trying to obfuscate.
 
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