Controversial General Political Discussion

[Toby D. Dog]

If i were thin skinned,i would be acting just like you do:
1-reads shit without knowing the full context.
2-proceeds to write a rant/insult spree.
3-complains about people being contrarian.
4-believes he is entitled to throw shit at people because its safe behind a keyboard.
5-downplays people critiques and gaslights them.
"How to be a cyber bully 101".I pity people that got such boring lives that they have to resort to the internet to live their degenerate fantasies.

My man, you were deemed gasligther in chief by Al himself. I don't see how this is a degenerate fantasy tho. I'm just judging you based on what you say, just take it and that's it. You're the one who's getting overly emotional about this just cause I called you a conspiracy theorist.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Well those are minorities within minorities
One does not make rules based on exceptions

Radicalisation is quite a predominant effect in immigrant communities, specially if the welfare of the state doesn't incentivise integration, aka moderating the cultures you come with and making it in tune with the country's.
Example, italian immigrants in the US arrived like a storm, were put in ghettos and forgot by the state, they created their own criminal state, the mafia.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

This is kinda the issue rn in this conversation, some societies are multicultural and other are not, and both kinds of societies have the right to exist

Well, what I'm saying is coming from someone who lives in America and grew up with people from all over the world.

 

[NikaInParis]

Radicalisation is quite a predominant effect in immigrant communities, specially if the welfare of the state doesn't incentivise integration, aka moderating the cultures you come with and making it in tune with the country's.
Example, italian immigrants in the US arrived like a storm, were put in ghettos and forgot by the state, they created their own criminal state, the mafia.

In the case of Italian-Americans, they didn't create the mafia so much as they brought it over - mafia members immigrated to America and founded branch families of the Cosa Nostra et al. They were still subservient to the original organization

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

I'm 12.5% Indian. The rest is British. And I don't believe in blood and soil. I was raised British. I care about the culture. I was raised to love my country.

Oh -- and, let's be real -- I'm "White passing" so to speak.

This ain't 23andMe, no need to tell me your percentages. You love your country good for you, long live the King and that I guess.

Scale of 1 to pure white, where would you rank?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Well, what I'm saying is coming from someone who lives in America and grew up with people from all over the world.

Yes I figured. You are grounded in your urban, multicultural experience and that's ok.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Not all societies should be multicultural. Not everywhere is America, my man.

Like others have said, the UK is reaping what they've sown. This is not even from a moral standpoint, the consequences of colonialism and genocide are gonna reverberate for years to come regardless of what you think is right or wrong. That's just reality.

 

[Okamakama]

This ain't 23andMe, no need to tell me your percentages. You love your country good for you, long live the King and that I guess.

Scale of 1 to pure white, where would you rank?

The scale doesn't matter. I'm whiter than white. You can find me in the selfie channel.

Like others have said, the UK is reaping what they've sown. This is not even from a moral standpoint, the consequences of colonialism and genocide are gonna reverberate for years to come regardless of what you think is right or wrong. That's just reality.

Doesn't make it right. It's criminal.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

In the case of Italian-Americans, they didn't create the mafia so much as they brought it over - mafia members immigrated to America and founded branch families of the Cosa Nostra et al. They were still subservient to the original organization

Yeah, but if they were not living in ghettos were the only authority was the mafia, if they were relocated across the country and forced to integrate, how would they enforce the Mafia's way?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Like others have said, the UK is reaping what they've sown. This is not even from a moral standpoint, the consequences of colonialism and genocide are gonna reverberate for years to come regardless of what you think is right or wrong. That's just reality.

thank you for paraphrasing my posts of the past hour

 

[Toby D. Dog]

In the case of Italian-Americans, they didn't create the mafia so much as they brought it over - mafia members immigrated to America and founded branch families of the Cosa Nostra et al. They were still subservient to the original organization

We don't talk about La cosa nostra on this thread. you've been warned.

@Mr. Reloaded keep an eye on this one.

 

[NikaInParis]

Yeah, but if they were not living in ghettos were the only authority was the mafia, if they were relocated across the country and forced to integrate, how would they enforce the Mafia's way?

The only ones enforcing the Mafia's way were Mafia members - there were still regular people among those communities. The majority of them were regular Joes.

Generalizing communities to such a degree is a dangerous game

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

We don't talk about La cosa nostra on this thread. you've been warned.

@Mr. Reloaded keep an eye on this one.

Aye.

@NikaInParis keep it in the PM

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Doesn't make it right. It's criminal.

What's criminal? Let me get the specifics of your argument.

 

[Okamakama]

What's criminal? Let me get the specifics of your argument.

I think it's criminal to displace a local populace through mass immigration, especially illegal immigration. Maybe not 'criminal' but certainly 'immoral'.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

The only ones enforcing the Mafia's way were Mafia members - there were still regular people among those communities. The majority of them were regular Joes.

Generalizing communities to such a degree is a dangerous game

I am not explaining myself properly.
What i am saying is that it's the 1% that brings their ways and find that the remaining 99% cannot do anything to stop them.
The state doesn't give a shit about them, because they are just cheap labour, so they are forced to basically participate.
I am not sure I am explaining myself properly.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I think it's criminal to displace a local populace through mass immigration, especially illegal immigration. Maybe not 'criminal' but certainly 'immoral'.

Hmmm. So basically demographic change? That has been happening for thousands of years. Miami is a prime example of that. But you know what's another example of that? Colonialism and genocide that has been perpetrated by european powers for the last 500 years. It's exactly what's happening on palestine. Specifics matter dude, I hate cuban americans but I don't think them immigrating to florida and becoming the majority in miami is criminal or morally wrong.

 

[NikaInParis]

I am not explaining myself properly.
What i am saying is that it's the 1% that brings their ways and find that the remaining 99% cannot do anything to stop them.
The state doesn't give a shit about them, because they are just cheap labour, so they are forced to basically participate.
I am not sure I am explaining myself properly.

This is better written and makes more sense.
It is true that the 1%, and often even less than that, paint the picture through which the 99% is viewed. We've seen it time and time again globally, as well as locally.
Though I wouldn't say the participate - only in being the targets of public scrutiny and bigotry they do. Otherwise they're hostages of extremists

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I am not explaining myself properly.
What i am saying is that it's the 1% that brings their ways and find that the remaining 99% cannot do anything to stop them.
The state doesn't give a shit about them, because they are just cheap labour, so they are forced to basically participate.
I am not sure I am explaining myself properly.

Where is this happening?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

This is better written and makes more sense.
It is true that the 1%, and often even less than that, paint the picture through which the 99% is viewed. We've seen it time and time again globally, as well as locally.
Though I wouldn't say the participate - only in being the targets of public scrutiny and bigotry they do. Otherwise they're hostages of extremists

They are forced to participate.
If the police is non existant, and mr. Mafia comes at your shop asking for protection money, how can you say no, and have your shop burnt to the ground?
This I mean by participation.

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Where is this happening?

The example was Italian and irish immigration in the US. But there could be many other parallels.