Controversial General Political Discussion

[sanjikun]

True, they're just animals and we should bomb the shit out of them....

errr.. I mean hamas, bomb the shit out of hamas

As fucked as the IDF is, they don't kidnap and hold random civilians hostage as a bargaining chip. If you can't understand this, I'm sorry.

Like I said, every country today was built on their militaries waging fucked up wars. Israel is no different. You're just seeing the newest country being built like every other country historically was. Look at all the wars all the Arab countries around Israel have waged through their history.

Hamas on the other hand at this point is no different than ISIS. Terror for no reason other than terror. They're not helping their people. They're using them as human shields. They're not gaining territory, securing borders, or making anyone's life better. That's just terrorism.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

As fucked as the IDF is, they don't kidnap and hold random civilians hostage as a bargaining chip. If you can't understand this, I'm sorry.

Like I said, every country today was built on their militaries waging fucked up wars. Israel is no different. You're just seeing the newest country being built like every other country historically was. Look at all the wars all the Arab countries around Israel have waged through their history.

Hamas on the other hand at this point is no different than ISIS. Terror for no reason other than terror. They're not helping their people. They're using them as human shields.

Damn, you're right. You've solved the moral question of bombarding innocent civilians where 50% of them are children. Bravo sir! You stand as a beacon of morality for the human race.

 

[sanjikun]

Damn, you're right. You've solved the moral question of bombarding innocent civilians where 50% of them are children. Bravo sir! You stand as a beacon of morality for the human race.

Please show me any country with a population of over 1 million where wars didn't affect innocent people. You need to learn some history, and stop acting like a 12 year old child.

Every country today would wage war against Hamas, if they did pulled that shit. Russia, China, Iran, USA, Canada, etc... ANY. Israel is no different.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

As fucked as the IDF is, they don't kidnap and hold random civilians hostage as a bargaining chip. If you can't understand this, I'm sorry.

Like I said, every country today was built on their militaries waging fucked up wars. Israel is no different. You're just seeing the newest country being built like every other country historically was. Look at all the wars all the Arab countries around Israel have waged through their history.

Hamas on the other hand at this point is no different than ISIS. Terror for no reason other than terror. They're not helping their people. They're using them as human shields. They're not gaining territory, securing borders, or making anyone's life better. That's just terrorism.

Are you for real?
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/23/israel-still-blocking-aid-civilians-gaza

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...eli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/

Bombing civilians and blocking international aid.
How is it diifferent than what Hamas does?
Bombing churches and hospitals is not terror for no reason other than terror?
You have member of the cabinet chanting for the genocide.
Are you just misinformed?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Please show me any country with a population of over 1 million where wars didn't affect innocent people. You need to learn some history, and stop acting like a 12 year old child.

Every country today would wage war against Hamas, if they did pulled that shit. Russia, China, Iran, USA, Canada, etc... ANY. Israel is no different.

Yeah sure, I'm a 12 year old. Just like the hundreds of 12 year old innocent children which israel has bombed and killed while they've been forced to live in an open air prison their entire lives.

But go ahead, pretend that I support Hamas and the massacre they perpetrated against innocent civilians. That's the easy thing to say when you know you're killing thousands of innocents while being no better than a terrorist group who engaged in collective punishment.


I'm not a fucking sheep btw. I'll never justify ilegal invasions under international law. I'm an individual and I don't condone war crimes regardless of who commits them. Tell yourself whatever you want to help you sleep at night, but don't drag decent people down that rabbit hole with your genocide justifying ass.

 

[Cruxroux]

What's the topic today guys.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

What's the topic today guys.

Crazy people defending genocide again.

 

[sanjikun]

Yeah sure, I'm a 12 year old. Just like the hundreds of 12 year old innocent children which israel has bombed and killed while they've been forced to live in an open air prison their entire lives.

But go ahead, pretend that I support Hamas and the massacre they perpetrated against innocent civilians. That's the easy thing to say when you know you're killing thousands of innocents while being no better than a terrorist group who engaged in collective punishment.


I'm not a fucking sheep btw. I'll never justify ilegal invasions under international law. I'm an individual and I don't condone war crimes regardless of who commits them. Tell yourself whatever you want to help you sleep at night, but don't drag decent people down that rabbit hole with your genocide justifying ass.

Every criticism I see of Israel never offers a solution. Hamas is STILL shooting thousands of rockets into Israel every single day. Wtf are they supposed to do? Just pretend like nothing happened?

USA dropped a fucking nuke on Japan because 60 ppl were killed on Pearl Harbour. Other countries would do 1000x worse than what Israel is doing now, if Hamas pulled that shit some place else.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Every criticism I see of Israel never offers a solution. Hamas is STILL shooting thousands of rockets into Israel every single day. Wtf are they supposed to do? Just pretend like nothing happened?

USA dropped a fucking nuke on Japan because 60 ppl were killed on Pearl Harbour. Other countries would do 1000x worse than what Israel is doing now, if Hamas pulled that shit some place else.

When the US killed bin laden they did the right thing by doing the ground work and using special forces, they didn't go and bomb the shit out of pakistan (for a change) which would've been a war crime. That's how you fucking do it if you want to actually get those responsible. Now stop quoting me, I'm tired of having to talk to people who have the ability to justify the murder of innocents. It disgusts me to no end.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

USA dropped a fucking nuke on Japan because 60 ppl were killed on Pearl Harbour. Other countries would do 1000x worse than what Israel is doing now, if Hamas pulled that shit some place else.

Are you really this ignorant?
Do you know that Japan fought with the USA for months a bloody war over thousands of islands?
Have you ever opened an history book?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Are you really this ignorant?
Do you know that Japan fought with the USA for months a bloody war over thousands of islands?
Have you ever opened an history book?

He thinks that since there's been wars in the past and other countries have committed war crimes then it's only natural that Israel does it too.

 

[sanjikun]

Are you really this ignorant?
Do you know that Japan fought with the USA for months a bloody war over thousands of islands?
Have you ever opened an history book?

I'm talking about what made the US get into war. It took 60 people to get dragged into the world's biggest ever war.

He thinks that since there's been wars in the past and other countries have committed war crimes then it's only natural that Israel does it too.

Yeah, that's the fucked up history of humanity. Every country ever has committed "war crimes" by your definition.

Look around Israel. Half a million people died in Syrian civil war. Iraq-Iran war 1-2 million people died. Hamas' overinflated numbers are nothing when you look at an actual war.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I'm talking about what made the US get into war. It took 60 people to get dragged into the world's biggest ever war.

Now you are being silly.
That's the trigger, not the reason.
The US entered the war for a miriad of reasons, Pearl Harbour was just the event that made it happen. And i am not the one saying this. They got attacked but just like WWI, they would have stepped in when convenient for them.
Just like the first world war didn't happen because a radical terrorist killed Franz Ferdinand, but because every major power in europe was waiting for a reason to jump.
And your original statement of "for 60 people they threw atomic bombs" is what a 6 year old could say.
The pacific scenario is a well known tragedy.
But why am i wasting time, you are saying that israel is justified in killing innocents by bombing hospitals and churces because a fringe threw a terror attack.

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

Zionist bootlickers always have the most retarded defenders. Regardless of what nation they hail from, they all spastically sound the same

 

[sanjikun]

Now you are being silly.
That's the trigger, not the reason.
The US entered the war for a miriad of reasons, Pearl Harbour was just the event that made it happen. And i am not the one saying this. They got attacked but just like WWI, they would have stepped in when convenient for them.
Just like the first world war didn't happen because a radical terrorist killed Franz Ferdinand, but because every major power in europe was waiting for a reason to jump.
And your original statement of "for 60 people they threw atomic bombs" is what a 6 year old could say.
The pacific scenario is a well known tragedy.
But why am i wasting time, you are saying that israel is justified in killing innocents by bombing hospitals and churces because a fringe threw a terror attack.

Ugh, hello? Same thing here.

Zionist bootlickers always have the most retarded defenders. Regardless of what nation they hail from, they all spastically sound the same

You're the guy who doesn't understand that Jews are predominantly of Middle Eastern descent and called them "white colonisers". Please shut up.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Ugh, hello? Same thing here.

No you absolute retard.

USA dropped a fucking nuke on Japan because 60 ppl were killed on Pearl Harbour. Other countries would do 1000x worse than what Israel is doing now, if Hamas pulled that shit some place else.

This is what you wrote.
The US threw the Atomic bomb to show their new enemy, the USSR, that they had the atomic bomb and where therefore a technological giant.
You don't have to be voluntarily ignorant by writing that 60 people got killed in an attack and then the US threw 2 atomic bombs.
Because it makes you look retarded, and I am sure you don't wanna look retarded on top of defending genocide, right?
I mean, you must have some decency right?

 

[sanjikun]

I love some people's rampant anti-semitism (or anti-Jewishness to be more exact) here. Look at what Israel's neighbours have done to see real genocide. Waged wars that killed anywhere from 500k to 2 mill.

Now they use Hamas' fake figures to call "genocide" because Israel targets someone who is still throwing rockets at them.

No you absolute retard.

This is what you wrote.
The US threw the Atomic bomb to show their new enemy, the USSR, that they had the atomic bomb and where therefore a technological giant.
You don't have to be voluntarily ignorant by writing that 60 people got killed in an attack and then the US threw 2 atomic bombs.
Because it makes you look retarded, and I am sure you don't wanna look retarded on top of defending genocide, right?
I mean, you must have some decency right?

The US didn't have the atomic bomb ready when Pearl Harbour started. When they got it, they used it to end the war.

I'd say them killing 200k people with 2 bombs, far outdoes Hamas faking hospital bombings.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

The US didn't have the atomic bomb ready when Pearl Harbour started. When they got it, they used it to end the war.

I'd say them killing 200k people with 2 bombs, far outdoes Hamas faking hospital bombings.

This is not a race to who kills more, and I think as well that the atomic bombs were one of the biggest tragedies of the history of humanity.
So I don't know what why you are moving the goalposts.
Killing innocents is not a justifiable act, in any way, shape, or form.
Israel has advocated for genocide with its leaders, has labelled Palestinian as animals when not denying their existence in the first place.
They bombed churches and hospital.
Closed water and electricity.
Closed the border to refugees (children included).
Moved 1 million people by bombing them.
If this is not enough for you to condemn them, you are just a blood lusted maniac.
And this is not a race, as I explained. But eye for an eye is not tolerable, and even in that case, to the murder of 100 people in a terror attack lead by Hamas, Israel has reacted by killing civilian themselves.
Both in Gaza and the West Bank.

 

[sanjikun]

This is not a race to who kills more, and I think as well that the atomic bombs were one of the biggest tragedies of the history of humanity.
So I don't know what why you are moving the goalposts.
Killing innocents is not a justifiable act, in any way, shape, or form.
Israel has advocated for genocide with its leaders, has labelled Palestinian as animals when not denying their existence in the first place.
They bombed churches and hospital.
Closed water and electricity.
Closed the border to refugees (children included).
Moved 1 million people by bombing them.
If this is not enough for you to condemn them, you are just a blood lusted maniac.
And this is not a race, as I explained. But eye for an eye is not tolerable, and even in that case, to the murder of 100 people in a terror attack lead by Hamas, Israel has reacted by killing civilian themselves.
Both in Gaza and the West Bank.

It's not. That's why humanity is fucked up. It's not an Israel-only thing. Israel has done nothing which 99% of countries around the world haven't done.

And yeah, I agree on the West Bank. Israel is wrong there. But Hamas... You can't defend that shit. They're STILL attacking. Israel has 0 choice here.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

It's not. That's why humanity is fucked up. It's not an Israel-only thing. Israel has done nothing which 99% of countries around the world haven't done.

And yeah, I agree on the West Bank. Israel is wrong there. But Hamas... You can't defend that shit. They're STILL attacking. Israel has 0 choice here.

No. Israel has created an apartheid state. created a lager called gaza where they control basic infostructures, enforce an iron fist on civilians and rule.
This has not been done by any other state, and your whataboutism is disgusting.

Israel is reaping the fruits of years of oppressions, and Hamas is not justifiable for killing innocents of course. But you defend Israel doing much worse. How can you not see your hipocrisy is beyond me.
Because if you look in the history of who created and financrd hamas, you'd be quite suprised .