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You're trying to sound intelligent but come off as biased. Maybe this is not your intention?
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Mind trying to reverse your statements? Going by your logic, everything Hamas does is ok too because there have been countless acts of terrorism and countless violent rebellions in history.
And now you cry antisemitism. BOTH sides are committing acts of violence but you only look at one side and turn a blind eye on the other.
It's not. That's why humanity is fucked up. It's not an Hamas-only thing. Hamas has done nothing which 99% of countries around the world haven't done.
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But Israel... You can't defend that shit. They're STILL attacking. Hamas has 0 choice here.
Makes as much sense, no?
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Mind trying to reverse your statements? Going by your logic, everything Hamas does is ok too because there have been countless acts of terrorism and countless violent rebellions in history.
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And now you cry antisemitism. BOTH sides are committing acts of violence but you only look at one side and turn a blind eye on the other.
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It's not. That's why humanity is fucked up. It's not an Hamas-only thing. Hamas has done nothing which 99% of countries around the world haven't done.
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But Israel... You can't defend that shit. They're STILL attacking. Hamas has 0 choice here.
Makes as much sense, no?
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But you know why Hamas is doing it, right? You do understand the history, right?
All of Palestine used to belong to the Palestinians. Then over time the Palestinians were pushed out more and more until they only occupied a tiny sliver of the land they once had.
Israel only exists because Palestine was ethnically cleansed.
Take, for example, the leader of Hamas. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_Haniyeh
The guy was born in a refugee camp because his family was deported from their town after israel conquered it in 1948.
Dude’s family was from Ashkelon. Ashkelon used to be known as Al-Madjal before Israel conquered it, deported all the Arabs, and then gave the town a Hebrew name, effectively erasing any trace of arab history in the area. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkelon
There are numerous solutions but none can ever get through because Israel and it’s supporters fail to see the conflict through this lens.
Israel’s supporters never hold israel accountable for any of its crimes, but instead always somehow make israel out to be the victim even when it always gets its way.
The fact of the matter is, the Palestinians have a right to hate Israelis for what they have done to them. Why wouldn’t they? Israel has stolen their land and has and continues to murder their people.
And until you can understand that, then you can never find a solution. Because by ignoring Israel’s crimes and ignoring the motives of the Palestinians, you essentially dehumanize them.
“Palestinians aren’t angry because they have any rational reason to be angry. They are angry because they are evil, violent, jew hating terrorists.”
And if that’s your outlook, then genocide/war crimes seems pretty justifiable, right?
All of Palestine used to belong to the Palestinians. Then over time the Palestinians were pushed out more and more until they only occupied a tiny sliver of the land they once had.
Israel only exists because Palestine was ethnically cleansed.
Take, for example, the leader of Hamas. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_Haniyeh
The guy was born in a refugee camp because his family was deported from their town after israel conquered it in 1948.
Dude’s family was from Ashkelon. Ashkelon used to be known as Al-Madjal before Israel conquered it, deported all the Arabs, and then gave the town a Hebrew name, effectively erasing any trace of arab history in the area. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkelon
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There are numerous solutions but none can ever get through because Israel and it’s supporters fail to see the conflict through this lens.
Israel’s supporters never hold israel accountable for any of its crimes, but instead always somehow make israel out to be the victim even when it always gets its way.
The fact of the matter is, the Palestinians have a right to hate Israelis for what they have done to them. Why wouldn’t they? Israel has stolen their land and has and continues to murder their people.
And until you can understand that, then you can never find a solution. Because by ignoring Israel’s crimes and ignoring the motives of the Palestinians, you essentially dehumanize them.
“Palestinians aren’t angry because they have any rational reason to be angry. They are angry because they are evil, violent, jew hating terrorists.”
And if that’s your outlook, then genocide/war crimes seems pretty justifiable, right?
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take your meds 
No I don't suck. I said exactly what I had to say. One Piece stands against oppression and putting a cryptofascist flag in Luffy's hand is spitting to Oda's face.
No, they prefer bombing children, taking the home of people and killing innocent civilian.. Different type of monstruosity indeed.
Yes, Israel is different, because this is not a war here, its an annihilatio. This is a one sided conflict.
Saying that is purely ignorant of the sociology of this group. Hamas grew because of the anger of the people, not simply on pure ideology.
Stop acting like an genocide apologizer
Nice, you got the point. Yes, they have the iron dome. they CAN pretend like the rocket are nothing. Why ? Simply because they have the POWER. And to end a conflict, its the one in POWER who must make the first step toward peace.
BTW:
Dan Gillerman, former Israeli ambassador to the UN:
Me : *Typing "is dehumanization part of the fascization process ?"*
Colonization.... 
I find it rather ironic that I, who has actively opposed the IDF's actions and even more recently, the Israeli government's stances as clear evil (children of the light, etc) am dragged into this post.
Apparently anything but ARDENT support for Palestine is considered Zionism/Zionist Sympathising.
The sheer lack of nuance is mind boggling. I dislike terrorism. Only one of the attacks was terrorism. The other was a war crime (something I also disagree with, shocker).
I'm on the side of both sets of civilians.
But no: Just paint me how you want, you have made you decision.
Apparently anything but ARDENT support for Palestine is considered Zionism/Zionist Sympathising.
The sheer lack of nuance is mind boggling. I dislike terrorism. Only one of the attacks was terrorism. The other was a war crime (something I also disagree with, shocker).
I'm on the side of both sets of civilians.
But no: Just paint me how you want, you have made you decision.
Brave of you to share it. Look bro, we're opposed when it comes to political view, but I fully hope that you can live with your condition and thrive. 
I don't agree with terrorism, regardless of reasoning.
As for the concept of genocide, I'd be a lot more on board with it being just Israel's fault if people hadn't flocked to the streets calling for global Jihad. All the while people like Sekai Saikyo call for genocide against "zionists" which leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. If both sides want each other eliminated, it's hard to really call one side righteous and the other one immoral monsters.
I don't agree with terrorism, regardless of reasoning.
As for the concept of genocide, I'd be a lot more on board with it being just Israel's fault if people hadn't flocked to the streets calling for global Jihad. All the while people like Sekai Saikyo call for genocide against "zionists" which leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. If both sides want each other eliminated, it's hard to really call one side righteous and the other one immoral monsters.
Brave of you to share it. Look bro, we're opposed when it comes to political view, but I fully hope that you can live with your condition and thrive.
I don't agree with terrorism, regardless of reasoning.
As for the concept of genocide, I'd be a lot more on board with it being just Israel's fault if people hadn't flocked to the streets calling for global Jihad. All the while people like Sekai Saikyo call for genocide against "zionists" which leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. If both sides want each other eliminated, it's hard to really call one side righteous and the other one immoral monsters.
I don't agree with terrorism, regardless of reasoning.
As for the concept of genocide, I'd be a lot more on board with it being just Israel's fault if people hadn't flocked to the streets calling for global Jihad. All the while people like Sekai Saikyo call for genocide against "zionists" which leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. If both sides want each other eliminated, it's hard to really call one side righteous and the other one immoral monsters.
You call Hamas terrorism, but when Israel does the EXACT SAME THING BUT 100 TIMES WORSE you don't judge it.
When a member of Israel cabinet calls for genocide you omit it. A member of the cabinet, aka elected by the people and representing it.
When Amnesty international declares that there were no Hamas presence around bombed buildings, you ignore that.
How do you feel about israel colonizers shooting families in retalation on the west bank?
Gow do you fall bombing churces and non military (aka houses and shops) not a terror attack is beyond me.
Also you ignore where hamas comes from, who financed it and who is the technological giant OCCUPYING, CONTROLLING WATER, MONEY, BORDERS AND ELECTRICITY.