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No you absolute retard.
This is what you wrote.
The US threw the Atomic bomb to show their new enemy, the USSR, that they had the atomic bomb and where therefore a technological giant.
You don't have to be voluntarily ignorant by writing that 60 people got killed in an attack and then the US threw 2 atomic bombs.
Because it makes you look retarded, and I am sure you don't wanna look retarded on top of defending genocide, right?
I mean, you must have some decency right?
This is what you wrote.
The US threw the Atomic bomb to show their new enemy, the USSR, that they had the atomic bomb and where therefore a technological giant.
You don't have to be voluntarily ignorant by writing that 60 people got killed in an attack and then the US threw 2 atomic bombs.
Because it makes you look retarded, and I am sure you don't wanna look retarded on top of defending genocide, right?
I mean, you must have some decency right?
I love some people's rampant anti-semitism (or anti-Jewishness to be more exact) here. Look at what Israel's neighbours have done to see real genocide. Waged wars that killed anywhere from 500k to 2 mill.
Now they use Hamas' fake figures to call "genocide" because Israel targets someone who is still throwing rockets at them.
The US didn't have the atomic bomb ready when Pearl Harbour started. When they got it, they used it to end the war.
I'd say them killing 200k people with 2 bombs, far outdoes Hamas faking hospital bombings.
Now they use Hamas' fake figures to call "genocide" because Israel targets someone who is still throwing rockets at them.
The US didn't have the atomic bomb ready when Pearl Harbour started. When they got it, they used it to end the war.
I'd say them killing 200k people with 2 bombs, far outdoes Hamas faking hospital bombings.
This is not a race to who kills more, and I think as well that the atomic bombs were one of the biggest tragedies of the history of humanity.
So I don't know what why you are moving the goalposts.
Killing innocents is not a justifiable act, in any way, shape, or form.
Israel has advocated for genocide with its leaders, has labelled Palestinian as animals when not denying their existence in the first place.
They bombed churches and hospital.
Closed water and electricity.
Closed the border to refugees (children included).
Moved 1 million people by bombing them.
If this is not enough for you to condemn them, you are just a blood lusted maniac.
And this is not a race, as I explained. But eye for an eye is not tolerable, and even in that case, to the murder of 100 people in a terror attack lead by Hamas, Israel has reacted by killing civilian themselves.
Both in Gaza and the West Bank.
So I don't know what why you are moving the goalposts.
Killing innocents is not a justifiable act, in any way, shape, or form.
Israel has advocated for genocide with its leaders, has labelled Palestinian as animals when not denying their existence in the first place.
They bombed churches and hospital.
Closed water and electricity.
Closed the border to refugees (children included).
Moved 1 million people by bombing them.
If this is not enough for you to condemn them, you are just a blood lusted maniac.
And this is not a race, as I explained. But eye for an eye is not tolerable, and even in that case, to the murder of 100 people in a terror attack lead by Hamas, Israel has reacted by killing civilian themselves.
Both in Gaza and the West Bank.
It's not. That's why humanity is fucked up. It's not an Israel-only thing. Israel has done nothing which 99% of countries around the world haven't done.
And yeah, I agree on the West Bank. Israel is wrong there. But Hamas... You can't defend that shit. They're STILL attacking. Israel has 0 choice here.
And yeah, I agree on the West Bank. Israel is wrong there. But Hamas... You can't defend that shit. They're STILL attacking. Israel has 0 choice here.
No. Israel has created an apartheid state. created a lager called gaza where they control basic infostructures, enforce an iron fist on civilians and rule.
This has not been done by any other state, and your whataboutism is disgusting.
Israel is reaping the fruits of years of oppressions, and Hamas is not justifiable for killing innocents of course. But you defend Israel doing much worse. How can you not see your hipocrisy is beyond me.
Because if you look in the history of who created and financrd hamas, you'd be quite suprised .
This has not been done by any other state, and your whataboutism is disgusting.
Israel is reaping the fruits of years of oppressions, and Hamas is not justifiable for killing innocents of course. But you defend Israel doing much worse. How can you not see your hipocrisy is beyond me.
Because if you look in the history of who created and financrd hamas, you'd be quite suprised .
You're trying to sound intelligent but come off as biased. Maybe this is not your intention?
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Mind trying to reverse your statements? Going by your logic, everything Hamas does is ok too because there have been countless acts of terrorism and countless violent rebellions in history.
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And now you cry antisemitism. BOTH sides are committing acts of violence but you only look at one side and turn a blind eye on the other.
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It's not. That's why humanity is fucked up. It's not an Hamas-only thing. Hamas has done nothing which 99% of countries around the world haven't done.
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But Israel... You can't defend that shit. They're STILL attacking. Hamas has 0 choice here.
Makes as much sense, no?
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Mind trying to reverse your statements? Going by your logic, everything Hamas does is ok too because there have been countless acts of terrorism and countless violent rebellions in history.
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And now you cry antisemitism. BOTH sides are committing acts of violence but you only look at one side and turn a blind eye on the other.
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It's not. That's why humanity is fucked up. It's not an Hamas-only thing. Hamas has done nothing which 99% of countries around the world haven't done.
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But Israel... You can't defend that shit. They're STILL attacking. Hamas has 0 choice here.
Makes as much sense, no?
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But you know why Hamas is doing it, right? You do understand the history, right?
All of Palestine used to belong to the Palestinians. Then over time the Palestinians were pushed out more and more until they only occupied a tiny sliver of the land they once had.
Israel only exists because Palestine was ethnically cleansed.
Take, for example, the leader of Hamas. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_Haniyeh
The guy was born in a refugee camp because his family was deported from their town after israel conquered it in 1948.
Dude’s family was from Ashkelon. Ashkelon used to be known as Al-Madjal before Israel conquered it, deported all the Arabs, and then gave the town a Hebrew name, effectively erasing any trace of arab history in the area. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkelon
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There are numerous solutions but none can ever get through because Israel and it’s supporters fail to see the conflict through this lens.
Israel’s supporters never hold israel accountable for any of its crimes, but instead always somehow make israel out to be the victim even when it always gets its way.
The fact of the matter is, the Palestinians have a right to hate Israelis for what they have done to them. Why wouldn’t they? Israel has stolen their land and has and continues to murder their people.
And until you can understand that, then you can never find a solution. Because by ignoring Israel’s crimes and ignoring the motives of the Palestinians, you essentially dehumanize them.
“Palestinians aren’t angry because they have any rational reason to be angry. They are angry because they are evil, violent, jew hating terrorists.”
And if that’s your outlook, then genocide/war crimes seems pretty justifiable, right?
All of Palestine used to belong to the Palestinians. Then over time the Palestinians were pushed out more and more until they only occupied a tiny sliver of the land they once had.
Israel only exists because Palestine was ethnically cleansed.
Take, for example, the leader of Hamas. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_Haniyeh
The guy was born in a refugee camp because his family was deported from their town after israel conquered it in 1948.
Dude’s family was from Ashkelon. Ashkelon used to be known as Al-Madjal before Israel conquered it, deported all the Arabs, and then gave the town a Hebrew name, effectively erasing any trace of arab history in the area. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkelon
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There are numerous solutions but none can ever get through because Israel and it’s supporters fail to see the conflict through this lens.
Israel’s supporters never hold israel accountable for any of its crimes, but instead always somehow make israel out to be the victim even when it always gets its way.
The fact of the matter is, the Palestinians have a right to hate Israelis for what they have done to them. Why wouldn’t they? Israel has stolen their land and has and continues to murder their people.
And until you can understand that, then you can never find a solution. Because by ignoring Israel’s crimes and ignoring the motives of the Palestinians, you essentially dehumanize them.
“Palestinians aren’t angry because they have any rational reason to be angry. They are angry because they are evil, violent, jew hating terrorists.”
And if that’s your outlook, then genocide/war crimes seems pretty justifiable, right?
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take your meds 
No I don't suck. I said exactly what I had to say. One Piece stands against oppression and putting a cryptofascist flag in Luffy's hand is spitting to Oda's face.
No, they prefer bombing children, taking the home of people and killing innocent civilian.. Different type of monstruosity indeed.
Yes, Israel is different, because this is not a war here, its an annihilatio. This is a one sided conflict.
Saying that is purely ignorant of the sociology of this group. Hamas grew because of the anger of the people, not simply on pure ideology.
Stop acting like an genocide apologizer
Nice, you got the point. Yes, they have the iron dome. they CAN pretend like the rocket are nothing. Why ? Simply because they have the POWER. And to end a conflict, its the one in POWER who must make the first step toward peace.
BTW:
Dan Gillerman, former Israeli ambassador to the UN:
Me : *Typing "is dehumanization part of the fascization process ?"*
Colonization.... 
I find it rather ironic that I, who has actively opposed the IDF's actions and even more recently, the Israeli government's stances as clear evil (children of the light, etc) am dragged into this post.
Apparently anything but ARDENT support for Palestine is considered Zionism/Zionist Sympathising.
The sheer lack of nuance is mind boggling. I dislike terrorism. Only one of the attacks was terrorism. The other was a war crime (something I also disagree with, shocker).
I'm on the side of both sets of civilians.
But no: Just paint me how you want, you have made you decision.
Apparently anything but ARDENT support for Palestine is considered Zionism/Zionist Sympathising.
The sheer lack of nuance is mind boggling. I dislike terrorism. Only one of the attacks was terrorism. The other was a war crime (something I also disagree with, shocker).
I'm on the side of both sets of civilians.
But no: Just paint me how you want, you have made you decision.
