Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

I literally critiqued Judaism, my bro. The religion teaches them that they're the chosen ones :'D.

If I have a particular dislike for Islam, it is due to the lies that are spread about it. They are not the religion of peace. Such claims are built on clever sophistry. The idea of killing one being equal to killing all mankind, for example, falls on deaf ears in the eyes of the law of reciprocity.

It is not the religion of peace, and I adamantly stand by that.

All religions can be used for supremacy, you are correct, but in the modern era those religions are Islam and Judaism. I've heard some even call Communism a neo religion, but I'm not willing to go that far.
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Aight. First of all -- nice joke.
Secondly - I wouldn't put such an attempt past someone who has endorsed adultery.

Communism is a culture.To be a religion it needs to have a dogma,Communism doesn't have that,but it does have a life of it own.Each generation discards the previous one and claims to be the true communists Marx was talking about.

 

[Okamakama]

Self control, peace, love. The hippy shit Jesus talked about
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Monogamy, community, kindness etc

Interesting, I'd argue a lot of these are disappearing in are increasingly faithless world. I cannot speak for America, but people don't even greet their neighbours where I am, let alone hold a sense of community.

I know of multiple people in my environment who have been involved in polycules.

Self-control is something that is not encouraged. We only need to look towards the messaging that encourages over-emotionality to show that holding one's emotions in check is not something that is valued any more.

Peace? Superficially.

Fuck...

 

[Roo]

Self control? what does that mean? These are really broad. I just think a lot of the values that Jesus allegedly advocated for are not really practiced by the overall populace.

I largely disagree. The idea of avoiding violence is ingrained in us as children in schools and households. We would be a lot more violent as a society without it

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I largely disagree. The idea of avoiding violence is ingrained in us as children in schools and households. We would be a lot more violent as a society without it

Then how come we're such warlike people? I mean, the numbers speak for themselves. Violence has become a business, and we're the one selling it.
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Jesus was also pro immigrant. A large amount of the population is extremely xenophobic.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I largely disagree. The idea of avoiding violence is ingrained in us as children in schools and households. We would be a lot more violent as a society without it

Avoiding violence is a Christian value then you have the crusades and any and each acts of violent conversions etc...

 

[Roo]

Then how come we're such warlike people? I mean, the numbers speak for themselves. Violence has become a business, and we're the one selling it.

Humans can compartmentalize. Plenty of peaceful religious waged wars because they deemed in-acting violence on other people moral, or a necessary evil.

when we talk about society I mean within the society.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Avoiding violence is a Christian value then you have the crusades and any and each acts of violent conversions etc...

It's just a very small group of Christians who actually take the words of Jesus to heart. The vast majority just nitpicks what they like.

 

[Roo]

Avoiding violence is a Christian value then you have the crusades and any and each acts of violent conversions etc...

Yes you’re telling an atheist people use religion to wage wars….

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

It's just a very small group of Christians who actually take the words of Jesus to heart. The vast majority just nitpicks what they like.

I know this I was responding to the other guy who seems to be in denial

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Humans can compartmentalize. Plenty of peaceful religious waged wars because they deemed in-acting violence on other people moral, or a necessary evil.

when we talk about society I mean within the society.

idk man, I feel like we just use these terms in order to justify a lot of the bad shit we do and put ourselves above those societies that aren't western.

 

[Roo]

idk man, I feel like we just use these terms in order to justify a lot of the bad shit we do and put ourselves above those societies that aren't western.

I do not let bad actors dictate how I view the world

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Yes you’re telling an atheist people use religion to wage wars….

What are you talking about??

 

[Roo]

What are you talking about??

You’re jumping in the conversation telling me stuff I already know. You’re not bringing anything new to the table

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I do not let bad actors dictate how I view the world

80% of our leaders are bad actors. I do agree that most people are decent in nature but I do see massive contradictions with the values we spew at large.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You’re jumping in the conversation telling me stuff I already know. You’re not bringing anything new to the table

I don't even get what you are talking about here. You throw around statements and act offended when you are criticised

 

[Roo]

I don't even get what you are talking about here. You throw around statements and act offended when you are criticised

What was the criticism you added? Mentioning the crusades and violent conversions? What exactly made you believe I didn’t know of those things?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

@TheAncientCenturion i personally think the split in Christianity is the beginning of western identity

I think it started with most of Western Europe being ruled by some form of Germanic leader in early post-antiquity. They became more homogenous to each other over time than the Eastern Romans, whose identity was already floundering. But the great schism definitely legitimized it.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

What was the criticism you added? Mentioning the crusades and violent conversions? What exactly made you believe I didn’t know of those things?

If you did your previous statements make no sense

 

[Okamakama]

The real question about the Crusades is whether it was a defensive militaristic war, or an offensive war. Some historians argue it was the former. Discuss.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The real question about the Crusades is whether it was a defensive militaristic war, or an offensive war. Some historians argue it was the former. Discuss.

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