Controversial General Political Discussion

[Roo]

Avoiding violence is a Christian value then you have the crusades and any and each acts of violent conversions etc...

Yes you’re telling an atheist people use religion to wage wars….

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

It's just a very small group of Christians who actually take the words of Jesus to heart. The vast majority just nitpicks what they like.

I know this I was responding to the other guy who seems to be in denial

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Humans can compartmentalize. Plenty of peaceful religious waged wars because they deemed in-acting violence on other people moral, or a necessary evil.

when we talk about society I mean within the society.

idk man, I feel like we just use these terms in order to justify a lot of the bad shit we do and put ourselves above those societies that aren't western.

 

[Roo]

idk man, I feel like we just use these terms in order to justify a lot of the bad shit we do and put ourselves above those societies that aren't western.

I do not let bad actors dictate how I view the world

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Yes you’re telling an atheist people use religion to wage wars….

What are you talking about??

 

[Roo]

What are you talking about??

You’re jumping in the conversation telling me stuff I already know. You’re not bringing anything new to the table

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I do not let bad actors dictate how I view the world

80% of our leaders are bad actors. I do agree that most people are decent in nature but I do see massive contradictions with the values we spew at large.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You’re jumping in the conversation telling me stuff I already know. You’re not bringing anything new to the table

I don't even get what you are talking about here. You throw around statements and act offended when you are criticised

 

[Roo]

I don't even get what you are talking about here. You throw around statements and act offended when you are criticised

What was the criticism you added? Mentioning the crusades and violent conversions? What exactly made you believe I didn’t know of those things?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

@TheAncientCenturion i personally think the split in Christianity is the beginning of western identity

I think it started with most of Western Europe being ruled by some form of Germanic leader in early post-antiquity. They became more homogenous to each other over time than the Eastern Romans, whose identity was already floundering. But the great schism definitely legitimized it.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

What was the criticism you added? Mentioning the crusades and violent conversions? What exactly made you believe I didn’t know of those things?

If you did your previous statements make no sense

 

[Okamakama]

The real question about the Crusades is whether it was a defensive militaristic war, or an offensive war. Some historians argue it was the former. Discuss.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The real question about the Crusades is whether it was a defensive militaristic war, or an offensive war. Some historians argue it was the former. Discuss.

No

 

[Toby D. Dog]

What was the criticism you added? Mentioning the crusades and violent conversions? What exactly made you believe I didn’t know of those things?

There's some people here who believe they were defensive. It's just classic revisionism.

 

[Roo]

If you did your previous statements make no sense

If you didn’t jump in and just kept reading you’d see what I think of that.

so stfu and keep reading, dumbass

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There's some people here who believe they were defensive. It's just classic revisionism.

Then Solis should talk to them instead. I am far from a religious sympathizer

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The real question about the Crusades is whether it was a defensive militaristic war, or an offensive war. Some historians argue it was the former. Discuss.

It was a reactionary call to arms by Pope Urban II over the Seljuks successes in Anatolia.

 

[Roo]

It was a reactionary call to arms by Pope Urban II over the Seljuks successes in Anatolia.

Sad that in the end the crusaders were the ones who helped the Turks destroy the Great Roman Empire

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

dumbass

the insults have become so rare here I almost missed them💗😢🥰

 

[Okamakama]

Sad that in the end the crusaders were the ones who helped the Turks destroy the Great Roman Empire

How often do you think of the Roman Empire?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Sad that in the end the crusaders were the ones who helped the Turks destroy the Great Roman Empire

Their time was limited by the inevitable advances in military tbh. Cannons ruined Stanipol’s defenses.