Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1097 Spoilers Discussion

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I've already given my opinion, I even made a thread about it.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/egghead-reverse-sabaody.49370/#post-4838454

Here what is happening is that sandman is literally saying the same thing I've been saying for weeks, no wonder I'll quote you on this and question your mental gymnastics when a guy like sandman who holds a Twitter account with many followers casually says that Luffy defeated Kizaru. It gets to show how that is the easiest conclusion any sane reader should be taking, something that you guys are not doing.
My mental gymnastics? Do you even know why I quoted you? It was not because of your opinion, shit, a lot of people have far more ridiculous opinions than you have.

I quote you because you randomly tagged people with a tweet that stated the author (of that tweets) opinion regarding Luffy and Kizaru's fight, and how you somehow spinned that tweet has the truth simply because it was Sandman.


Second, followers? Are we scalling characters based on the followers someone has? Really? So Sandman says X character is above Y character and it's the truth? Jesus.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
True, but at this point is what we have.

All in all, even about Dragon we have only fan expectations, and many others are in the same situation.

But Kizaru's future role will clear things up, one way or another.
I agree.

Dragon's CoC was hyped by Ivankov/Garp when Luffy showed CoC.
His fighting style will probably also revolve around Ryusoken like Sabo, since Dragon mentored in.

Add a Wind Logia on top of this... and it aint hard to see why he's that strong.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
However, you have to realize that doing this implies that they are being slaves to the World Government and working for the Celestial Dragons, that they are obeying the Five Elders who are stronger than them.
There is no greater protector of the Celestial Dragons and their slave taking genocidal ways than Garp lol.

Name me one Admiral who defended the Celestial Dragons from Rox like Garp did. I’ll wait. Lol
 
There is no greater protector of the Celestial Dragons and their slave taking genocidal ways than Garp lol.

Name me one Admiral who defended the Celestial Dragons from Rox like Garp did. I’ll wait. Lol
We'll see what Garp actually did during God Valley sooner or later.

My mental gymnastics? Do you even know why I quoted you? It was not because of your opinion, shit, a lot of people have far more ridiculous opinions than you have.

I quote you because you randomly tagged people with a tweet that stated the author (of that tweets) opinion regarding Luffy and Kizaru's fight, and how you somehow spinned that tweet has the truth simply because it was Sandman.


Second, followers? Are we scalling characters based on the followers someone has? Really? So Sandman says X character is above Y character and it's the truth? Jesus.
I tagged you for banter and it seems that it worked. Luffy defeated Kizaru, get over it.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
I believe pre-TS they were closer to each other in power, while Post-TS Akainu pulled ahead of the other admirals.

Kizaru is the one who remained closest to his OG power because nothing about his situation changed, and he didn't have an island-altering 10 day duel.
Thats the point.

I dont believe that an increase in rank necessarily means an increase in power. In fact Akainu went 50/50 with Aokiji just to become FA.
 
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