Character Discussion Why does Imu-sama, the supposed final villain of One Piece, seem like crap so far?!
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I will only talk to you when Imu and Blackbeard have a statement that places them above Kaido. I'm not going to spend the whole day reading BS from a crystal ball wizard who knows exactly how the story will progress.
I understand that not even feats performed by BB and IMU will be enough to convince you that BB and IMU > Kaido. It needs to be explicitly stated by Oda, right? Good luck with that.
Kaido has been referred to as the world's strongest pirate, superior to Blackbeard.
Kaido, being the strongest living creature in the world, surpasses any living being and is therefore above Imu.
When you have a statement that explicitly claims that Imu and BB are stronger than Kaido, we can resume our conversation. Speculation, crystal balls, saying that Y is stronger than X because I think XZWET, is nothing more than an illusion.
I understand that not even feats performed by BB and IMU will be enough to convince you that BB and IMU > Kaido. It needs to be explicitly stated by Oda, right? Good luck with that.
- Statements related to power do not affect the deceased.
- Oda's statements, if he wants to claim that Imu and BB have surpassed Kaido, would need to involve the deceased.
- Blackbeard and Imu lack feats and statements that place them above Kaido, so claiming that Imu and BB > Kaido is nothing more than speculation.
Kaido has been referred to as the world's strongest pirate, superior to Blackbeard.
Kaido, being the strongest living creature in the world, surpasses any living being and is therefore above Imu.
When you have a statement that explicitly claims that Imu and BB are stronger than Kaido, we can resume our conversation. Speculation, crystal balls, saying that Y is stronger than X because I think XZWET, is nothing more than an illusion.
Uh, have fun waiting for years but lemme tell you a little trick instead of years of waiting: How you simply try to understand the story and how a shonen works? It is not that difficult.
Buddy, right now you and a few are the only ones entertaining the thought of Kaido > Blackbeard and Imu.
You have nothing, absolutely nothing. You put way too much faith into a mid series antagonist and worst of this all is how you keep comparing him to final villains, if not even THE final villain. Again, I told you Kaido is basically Pain and look how dude ended up in comparison to Naruto god tiers.
You keep talking about statements but even Primebeard has better statements than Kaido and unlike Kaido, he actually ruled over the seas after Roger died. How comes Kaido didn't rule the seas if he is stronger than Whitebeard?
Man, how about you just fucking wait until Imu gets truly revealed and is not a silhouette?
This is ridiculous.
I never knew that...
Same as Primebeard and even he is not save from Blackbeard. You don't seem to understand how powerful EOS top tiers will be. Blackbeard and Luffy even have potentials to ascend above top tiers. Yonko like Big Mom and Kaido will, rightfully, look like silver medalists. That's just normal.
The world doesn't know about Imu's existence, so how does it matter how the world looks at Kaido?
You realise this will last more than 3 years if Imu finally does his real move? You realise that Blackbeard will most likely get his big moment vs the protagonist in Laugh Tale? Oda will find plenty of moments to hype these enemies.
Buddy, right now you and a few are the only ones entertaining the thought of Kaido > Blackbeard and Imu.
You have nothing, absolutely nothing. You put way too much faith into a mid series antagonist and worst of this all is how you keep comparing him to final villains, if not even THE final villain. Again, I told you Kaido is basically Pain and look how dude ended up in comparison to Naruto god tiers.
You keep talking about statements but even Primebeard has better statements than Kaido and unlike Kaido, he actually ruled over the seas after Roger died. How comes Kaido didn't rule the seas if he is stronger than Whitebeard?
Man, how about you just fucking wait until Imu gets truly revealed and is not a silhouette?
This is ridiculous.
I never knew that...
Same as Primebeard and even he is not save from Blackbeard. You don't seem to understand how powerful EOS top tiers will be. Blackbeard and Luffy even have potentials to ascend above top tiers. Yonko like Big Mom and Kaido will, rightfully, look like silver medalists. That's just normal.
The world doesn't know about Imu's existence, so how does it matter how the world looks at Kaido?
You realise this will last more than 3 years if Imu finally does his real move? You realise that Blackbeard will most likely get his big moment vs the protagonist in Laugh Tale? Oda will find plenty of moments to hype these enemies.
Betting on a mid-series villain has to be the worst idea ive ever seen.Thats some LanjiKun/Veku level stupidity
Talking about Pain,dude was a self proclaimed god and people lost their shit after he dogwalked Konoha alone and then end it with a full power ST
Then,later we saw the flashback of Hashi vs Madara and realised how ass Pain was in comparison
After that,we got Juubito who was>>>>Hashi,claimed by himself
After Juubito was defeated we got Juudara who was most likely~>Juubito before he absorbed the Shinjuu.With absorbed Shinjuu and 2x Rinnegan he was way stronger as Juubito.
Then we got Kaguya who shits on that Madara just with her chakra alone
And with Burp,you can easly argue Isshiki is>Kaguya as well.Current Burp most likely as well,let alone Shibai who shits on the entire cast.
To make it short,Pain was worth nothing with Edo Madara joined the battle,let alone the god tiers
OP is no exception.
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Talking about Pain,dude was a self proclaimed god and people lost their shit after he dogwalked Konoha alone and then end it with a full power ST
Then,later we saw the flashback of Hashi vs Madara and realised how ass Pain was in comparison
After that,we got Juubito who was>>>>Hashi,claimed by himself
After Juubito was defeated we got Juudara who was most likely~>Juubito before he absorbed the Shinjuu.With absorbed Shinjuu and 2x Rinnegan he was way stronger as Juubito.
Then we got Kaguya who shits on that Madara just with her chakra alone
And with Burp,you can easly argue Isshiki is>Kaguya as well.Current Burp most likely as well,let alone Shibai who shits on the entire cast.
To make it short,Pain was worth nothing with Edo Madara joined the battle,let alone the god tiers
OP is no exception.
@Sentinel @Playa4321
Oh come on, that's the part where you drew the line? 
I know Kidd is pathetic but he's definitely stronger than the Luffy version who got one shot by base Kaido.
I know Kidd is pathetic but he's definitely stronger than the Luffy version who got one shot by base Kaido.
Also i expected this thread when my fella tried hyping Kaido above all , he even targetted the FV , easy L for u
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Issue is that Post WCI Luffy is equal to Katakuri who i have him above Kidd
Also i expected this thread when my fella tried hyping Kaido above WB and Roger , he even targetted the FV , easy L for u
Also i expected this thread when my fella tried hyping Kaido above WB and Roger , he even targetted the FV , easy L for u
Wasn't Sasaki always trying to put Kaido above Roger and Kaido? Tbh I wasn't expecting he'd go that far to target the FV. It simply proves you have strong CoO if you were expecting that.
Oda's interview with Netflix :
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I confess that I am tired; I want the power level in the One Piece universe to increase significantly so that I can say that the OP universe is stronger than at least the Barbie or Boruto universe, but this shit, except for Kaido, the Yonkous, and a few other characters, is way too weak, man... What's even more frustrating is that the final villain of this manga may not even compare to the final villains in other manga...
First of all, Imu isn't omniscient because he didn't even know that Sabo was in the throne room. This not only shows a lousy CoO but also that he isn't omniscient. Of course, the CoO of the characters is flawed, especially future sight, as demonstrated by the likes of Kaido, Luffy, and Katakuri. However, the fact remains that he is not omniscient. And that's a shame because there are so many characters out there in other anime and manga who are omniscient, and the strongest guy in the OP universe is a dude who isn't omniscient.
After that, the supposed final villain's first feat is hitting someone while carrying an old, crippled man on his back. That's right, Sabo was carrying King Cobra on his back, who is crippled, and Imu took advantage to attack him and still failed to knock him out. LMAOOOOOO
This is where I criticize Eiichiro Oda's writing for not giving Imu a solid feat because having him strike Sabo in such a dirty way? In comparison, we have Kaido defeating post-WCI Luffy with just one clean blow, mentally nerfed Big Mom beating Queen, Shanks shooting Kid and Killer. So why this ridiculous treatment regarding Imu-sama, the most powerful being in the One Piece universe?
Sabo traveled from the Holy Land to the kingdom of Lulusia on a ship with an open wound without receiving any treatment and remained conscious the entire way.
This is the power of Imu's attacks, but from what you can see, Imu's attacks had difficulty even killing a crippled, old and sick snake king.
The most significant display of power from Imu came from a copy of an ancient weapon and not from himself, which made the kingdom of Lulusia disappear from the map. However, we know that before that, the government used to summon a Buster Call in which the Gorosei themselves were present. If the easiest way to eliminate threats without anyone escaping is to explode the island and erase it from the map, if someone there had that power, it would surely be used. But no, Imu prefers to call dozens of ships, encircle an island, and start shooting. WTF, Kaido would melt the island and kill everyone with his sheer individual power.
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First of all, Imu isn't omniscient because he didn't even know that Sabo was in the throne room. This not only shows a lousy CoO but also that he isn't omniscient. Of course, the CoO of the characters is flawed, especially future sight, as demonstrated by the likes of Kaido, Luffy, and Katakuri. However, the fact remains that he is not omniscient. And that's a shame because there are so many characters out there in other anime and manga who are omniscient, and the strongest guy in the OP universe is a dude who isn't omniscient.
After that, the supposed final villain's first feat is hitting someone while carrying an old, crippled man on his back. That's right, Sabo was carrying King Cobra on his back, who is crippled, and Imu took advantage to attack him and still failed to knock him out. LMAOOOOOO
This is where I criticize Eiichiro Oda's writing for not giving Imu a solid feat because having him strike Sabo in such a dirty way? In comparison, we have Kaido defeating post-WCI Luffy with just one clean blow, mentally nerfed Big Mom beating Queen, Shanks shooting Kid and Killer. So why this ridiculous treatment regarding Imu-sama, the most powerful being in the One Piece universe?
Sabo traveled from the Holy Land to the kingdom of Lulusia on a ship with an open wound without receiving any treatment and remained conscious the entire way.
The most significant display of power from Imu came from a copy of an ancient weapon and not from himself, which made the kingdom of Lulusia disappear from the map. However, we know that before that, the government used to summon a Buster Call in which the Gorosei themselves were present. If the easiest way to eliminate threats without anyone escaping is to explode the island and erase it from the map, if someone there had that power, it would surely be used. But no, Imu prefers to call dozens of ships, encircle an island, and start shooting. WTF, Kaido would melt the island and kill everyone with his sheer individual power.
@nik87 @Hanzo hattori @Tejas @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @Erkan12 @comrade @Fleet Leader Fenaker @MonsterKaido @Tejas @Boiroy @SkySanji @Steven @Cruxroux @Juanpiz @YamatoGirl @Aldarion
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Yahirobe be would one shot Kaido and eat him
