Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zolo]

So you would be ok with a state ceasing all the means of production if that's the best for the people?

 

[NAMELESS]

You're just labeling what you don't like as communism like you always do. The terminology you're using is not accepted by any serious scholar regardless of their political alignment. Sad.

Dude,these terminologies are outdated.Stop being dumb.We are not in 1950.Things have evolved.Most socialists are not Marxists anymore.The classical communist regimes have changed and adopted a capitalist economy.Communism was never about the economy,it was all about social control and hegemony.2023 Russia and China are still run by the same old commie parties and,they are not democracies and yet they have free markets.

 

[Logiko]

define me far right

I'll let wikipedia tell you that:

"Far-right politics, or right-wing extremism, refers to a spectrum of political thought that tends to be radically conservative, ultra-nationalist, and authoritarian, often also including nativist tendencies [...] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or reactionary views "

 

[Toby D. Dog]

You said you were a nationalist right? and that you believe that every country should base their economy on the needs of the overall populace. Now I'm proposing a hypothetical in which a countries situation is perfectly suited for the government to cease all the means of production cause that's what will generate the most wealth for the people. Would you support that?

 

[Zolo]

I'll let wikipedia tell you that:

"Far-right politics, or right-wing extremism, refers to a spectrum of political thought that tends to be radically conservative, ultra-nationalist, and authoritarian, often also including nativist tendencies [...] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or reactionary views "

where am I there ?

 

[NAMELESS]

Some people can't read or think.There is no debating fools.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

where am I there ?

You are talking with a furry that took this LGBT persona when called out on his macabre love for Carrot, never forget it.

 

[NAMELESS]

You said you were a nationalist right? and that you believe that every country should base their economy on the needs of the overall populace. Now I'm proposing a hypothetical in which a countries situation is perfectly suited for the government to cease all the means of production cause that's what will generate the most wealth for the people. Would you support that?

hum he got you there @Zolo

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You are talking with a furry that took this LGBT persona when called out on his macabre love for Carrot, never forget it.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You said you were a nationalist right?

Nice

 

[Zolo]

Some people can't read or thing.There is no debating fools.

I said I believe in nationalist economics and he asks me if I would suppord deindustralization and de production ? does he even know that liberal EU gov take sthose things away allready from us, and im fighting exactly that. Im fighting for my country to stop being abused and start investing in its own production... damn...

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Dude,these terminologies are outdated.Stop being dumb.We are not in 1950.Things have evolved.Most socialists are not Marxists anymore.The classical communist regimes have changed and adopted a capitalist economy.Communism was never about the economy,it was all about social control and hegemony.2023 Russia and China are still run by the same old commie parties and,they are not democracies and yet they have free markets.

These are the terminologies or whatever that are used in academia TODAY. We define these ideologies based on what a state decides to do with the means of production and that hasn't changed. You are changing the definitions and what it means to be a socialist or a communist based on your hatred of things you don't like. I am very familiar with these terms and understand what these ideologies represent cause I had to read a billion of these boring ass texts when I was doing my bachelor's. You are not an authority on this SHAMELESS, and neither am I. But at least I'm going by the books and strictly defined definitions that are used in academia TODAY.

 

[NAMELESS]

I'll let wikipedia tell you that:

"Far-right politics, or right-wing extremism, refers to a spectrum of political thought that tends to be radically conservative, ultra-nationalist, and authoritarian, often also including nativist tendencies [...] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or reactionary views "

"Radically""Utra""Reactionary""Chauvinist"
These terms are too broad.You can categorize anyone you don't like with these.Bullshit concepts.

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I said I believe in nationalist economics and he asks me if I would suppord deindustralization and de production ? does he even know that liberal EU gov take sthose things away allready from us, and im fighting exactly that. Im fighting for my country to stop being abused and start investing in its own production... damn...

ok,now you explained it better.

 

[Logiko]

where am I there ?

- Transphobic
- Reactionnary views
- Natalist
- Ultra nationalist
And virilist/confusionnist in bonus as this is one of the attribute of far right adherants

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I said I believe in nationalist economics and he asks me if I would suppord deindustralization and de production ? does he even know that liberal EU gov take sthose things away allready from us, and im fighting exactly that. Im fighting for my country to stop being abused and start investing in its own production... damn...

Nationalists are crybabies always playing the victim card. nothing to be proud of

 

[Zolo]

- Transphobic
- Reactionnary views
- Natalist
- Ultra nationalist
And virilist/confusionnist in bonus as this is one of the attribute of far right adherants

transphobic >? I dont fear trans people lmao

 

[Logiko]

These terms are too broad.You can categorize anyone you don't like with these.Bullshit concepts.

Those are sociological concept. They are not broad at all.

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transphobic >? I dont fear trans people lmao

This:

trans people should not be encouradged but treated by profesionals, they should be given a platform where they can find problem in themselves and heal

is transphobic.

 

[Zolo]

Those are sociological concept. They are not broad at all.

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This:

is transphobic.

it is not. when you know there are only two genders

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Nationalists are crybabies always playing the victim card. nothing to be proud of

I never get a concise and direct response from them regarding yes or no questions.

 

[Logiko]

it is not. when you know there are only two genders

See..

Transphobic.

But you can't understand that, you have a far right bias.

 

[NAMELESS]

These are the terminologies or whatever that are used in academia TODAY. We define these ideologies based on what a state decides to do with the means of production and that hasn't changed. You are changing the definitions and what it means to be a socialist or a communist based on your hatred of things you don't like. I am very familiar with these terms and understand what these ideologies represent cause I had to read a billion of these boring ass texts when I was doing my bachelor's. You are not an authority on this SHAMELESS, and neither am I. But at least I'm going by the books and strictly defined definitions that are used in academia TODAY.

Academia is run by the left nowadays. They are guilt tripping the west into oblivion. Your "authorities" are a bunch of propaganda spreaders. Intellectuals have been prostitutes ever since the french revolution happened. Marx vision was just propaganda in response to the growing power of the bourgeois(rich merchants).You said yourself you are no authority,so that makes your claims have the same weight as mine.
"Strictly defined definitions".You are never making it as a writer. English is not even my native language,but i don't write stupid things like these lol