Controversial Why people are so salty because of Imu and his Gorosei could be the final bosses in the series

[Durableguy]

The funniest thing about this topic is how rent free admiral fans live in the minds of some users like @Durableguy accusing us of being salty over Imu/Gorosei when a yonko fan like @Sasaki Kojirō is being salty in real-time in the same thread.

Peak clowns

OT: Imu was set up to be the final villain since his intro, the Ancient Kingdom/Void Century/Joyboy was always the endgame and Imu is the only one left from that era to play the villain role. And guess who Luffy is? Joyboy (Imu's Enemy) reincarnated.

Imu doesn't make you guys salty.

The gorosei absolutely do.

Look at all the threads you guys made arguing Kizaru>Saturn based off faulty logic.

Because the narration absolutely points towards the admirals being weaker than the gorosei.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

well i for one am salty because they arent characters i gave a shit about
will prob checkout before then hopefully.

 

[Konstantis]

well i for one am salty because they arent characters i gave a shit about
will prob checkout before then hopefully.

Well, sometime you need story of hatred and build up, but sometime you can learn true evil face only in last arc. Still WG ruled the world from the very begining, so that's nothing new, just face of it's King

 

[Durableguy]

Yeah I'm not sure why people hyped up the WG as the final opponents but then put all their stocks in the admirals.

From chapter 581 we literally saw Doflamingo tell us there were people higher up than Sengoku. The timing of the chapter blatantly told us that maybe the admirals weren't the end all be all lol

 

[Konstantis]

Yeah I'm not sure why people hyped up the WG as the final opponents but then put all their stocks in the admirals.

From chapter 581 we literally saw Doflamingo tell us there were people higher up than Sengoku. The timing of the chapter blatantly told us that maybe the admirals weren't the end all be all lol

Navy has nothing to do with politicial power, and Navy organization itself was never evil. Problem is only Celestial Dragons reign. While powerful organization like Navy would overthrew WG long long ago, case CD goes against Navy's main agenda. SO it was obvious that WG is something bigger then just Navy.

 

[Definitivo]

Many people simply hate Blackbeard and are fooled that an improvised character at the end of the manga who plays with butterflies is the final villain.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Imu doesn't make you guys salty.

The gorosei absolutely do.

Look at all the threads you guys made arguing Kizaru>Saturn based off faulty logic.

Because the narration absolutely points towards the admirals being weaker than the gorosei.

The admiral wankers are hard at work downplaying the Gorosei.

They are attracted to marines that are in their 40s, hence the idolization.

 

[Konstantis]

The admiral wankers are hard at work downplaying the Gorosei.

They are attracted to marines that are in their 40s, hence the idolization.

To be honest both fanbase from Admirals and Younko hate the idea where Gorosei can be stronger then their fav, especially case Kaido, who called WSC hahaha

 

[Sir Yasheen]

To be honest both fanbase from Admirals and Younko hate the idea where Gorosei can be stronger then their fav, especially case Kaido, who called WSC hahaha

Honestly cause 5 top tiers on par with Kaido just sitting in an ivory tower for the entire series is just lame.

 

[MarineHQ]

Because for over 1000 chapters the OP fandom was busy bashing each others heads in over which of their favourites from the balance of powers may it be Yonkou or Admirals or Mihawk reigned supreme just for all of em to be cucked by the Gorosei and then Imu (if it happens, not sure yet).

 

[Konstantis]

Honestly cause 5 top tiers on par with Kaido just sitting in an ivory tower for the entire series is just lame.

it's not, they already are sitting on top of the whole world, while drunk Kaido was sitting in small country.

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Because for over 1000 chapters the OP fandom was busy bashing each others heads in over which of their favourites from the balance of powers may it be Yonkou or Admirals or Mihawk reigned supreme just for all of em

Well Gorosei was introduced long long before admirals and Kaido, the only difference that they wasn't called Strongest, but they was called as rulers of this world.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Blackbeard, Shanks and Akainu all have personalities and have affected the plot and Luffy in directly personal ways.

Imu and the Gorosei have, up until Egghead, been an indirect threat. They have plotted in the background, but never actually took any real action themselves. Before now they have actually looked very ineffectual, only trying to react after Luffy and Blackbeard have messed up their plans for them.

Personality wise, the Gorosei are pretty indistinguishable from each other. They didn’t even have names until recently. I can’t really say if there’s anything that makes Mars different from Peter.

Their designs are also quite restrained and dull compared to a lot of One Piece‘s more cartoonish designs. The Zoan transformations will alleviate that though.

Imu, as the figurehead, is also a total blank slate. Nobody can get attached to Imu as a character, there’s next to nothing to work on. You can only care about what Imu represents.

Basically, Blackbeard Pirates, Redhairs, Admirals- fundamentally better groups of characters than Imu and the Gorosei have been so far. Better characters make better villains. All the heavy working for Imu and the Gorosei has been what they represent, not who they actually are. You want to see Luffy punch Blackbeard and Akainu in the face because of what the two have actually done themselves.

You only want to see Imu punched because you can’t punch a government.

Even destroying Lulusia was a bit meh, because we barely spent any time there and the one, extremely minor character from Lululasia that anyone knows or cares about- Moda- survived.

That’s the argument up until now anyway. Oda looks like he’s finally starting to give us individual reasons to care about these characters, with the murder of Cobra and Saturn seemingly be directly responsible for a lot of the misery in Kuma’s life

 

[RebelliousSoma]

To be honest both fanbase from Admirals and Younko hate the idea where Gorosei can be stronger then their fav, especially case Kaido, who called WSC hahaha

I wouldn't make that generalization at all. I am certain non-admiral fans and non-extreme hardcore fans accept the fact Gorosei are potentially much stronger and end-game bosses.

Besides that it's hard to tell how strong they really are since they can regenerate instantly. Question is how fast the regeneration is.
Arrancar from Bleach were very fast at regenerating when they first appeared.

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Blackbeard, Shanks and Akainu all have personalities and have affected the plot and Luffy in directly personal ways.

Imu and the Gorosei have, up until Egghead, been an indirect threat. They have plotted in the background, but never actually took any real action themselves. Before now they have actually looked very ineffectual, only trying to react after Luffy and Blackbeard have messed up their plans for them.

Personality wise, the Gorosei are pretty indistinguishable from each other. They didn’t even have names until recently. I can’t really say if there’s anything that makes Mars different from Peter.

Their designs are also quite restrained and dull compared to a lot of One Piece‘s more cartoonish designs. The Zoan transformations will alleviate that though.

Imu, as the figurehead, is also a total blank slate. Nobody can get attached to Imu as a character, there’s next to nothing to work on. You can only care about what Imu represents.

Basically, Blackbeard Pirates, Redhairs, Admirals- fundamentally better groups of characters than Imu and the Gorosei have been so far. Better characters make better villains. All the heavy working for Imu and the Gorosei has been what they represent, not who they actually are. You want to see Luffy punch Blackbeard and Akainu in the face because of what the two have actually done themselves.

You only want to see Imu punched because you can’t punch a government.

Even destroying Lulusia was a bit meh, because we barely spent any time there and the one, extremely minor character from Lululasia that anyone knows or cares about- Moda- survived.

That’s the argument up until now anyway. Oda looks like he’s finally starting to give us individual reasons to care about these characters, with the murder of Cobra and Saturn seemingly be directly responsible for a lot of the misery in Kuma’s life

The issue you describe is Oda drawing ink blobs instead of characters.

The appearance of each individual Gorosei hints at a particular historical figure. Saturn for example has the looks of Karl Marx, although his focus is science.

 

[Konstantis]

I wouldn't make that generalization at all. I am certain non-admiral fans and non-extreme hardcore fans accept the fact Gorosei are potentially much stronger and end-game bosses.

Besides that it's hard to tell how strong they really are since they can regenerate instantly. Question is how fast the regeneration is.
Arrancar from Bleach were very fast at regenerating when they first appeared.

I don't see the difference in between, like Kaido was introduced in chapter 795 or so and he was showed stronger then any admiral that was shown in Marinford. Still fans accepted him. The only problem going on with Power Scaling fanbase like those who believe that Zoro's final opponent is Mihawk.

I can easily see how in the end Mihawk fans, Admiral fans and Younko fans will be united in their hate, because their idols was weaker then end game bosses. LOL

 

[RebelliousSoma]

I don't see the difference in between, like Kaido was introduced in chapter 795 or so and he was showed stronger then any admiral that was shown in Marinford. Still fans accepted him. The only problem going on with Power Scaling fanbase like those who believe that Zoro's final opponent is Mihawk.

I can easily see how in the end Mihawk fans, Admiral fans and Younko fans will be united in their hate, because their idols was weaker then end game bosses. LOL

It was implied from early season Mihawk is Zoro's final opponent. Later on Mihawk turned into a huge let down. But it doesn't change the initial early setup.

 

[Konstantis]

It was implied from early season Mihawk is Zoro's final opponent. Later on Mihawk turned into a huge let down. But it doesn't change the initial early setup.

It changed when Mihawk became Zoro's teacher

 

[RebelliousSoma]

It changed when Mihawk became Zoro's teacher

changed by whom? they can still be the deciding battle over who is strongest

Oda just needs to stop fucking around and pay attention. His numerology crap doesn't write good chapters.

 

[Konstantis]

changed by whom? they can still be the deciding battle over who is strongest

Oda just needs to stop fucking around and pay attention. His numerology crap doesn't write good chapters.

If you don't understand why such solution isn't working in the story, I can't do a thing with this.
Actually othervise, Oda builded up hidden enemy from Mihawk stand point.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

If you don't understand why such solution isn't working in the story, I can't do a thing with this.
Actually othervise, Oda builded up hidden enemy from Mihawk stand point.

You project.

It's Oda's failure or we get Mihawk back.

 

[NotHereForSpoilers]

I'm leaning towards Blackbeard being the final boss. Imu-sama failing to knock out Sabo with his back turned while carrying an old man is as sad as hell. Kaido knocked out Oden the first chance he got in his basic form, and Kaido also killed Luffy in 1042. Imu-sama has a similar situation but can't achieve good results, and, of course, Sabo escaped. @Sentinel

Discrediting IMU because he didn’t ko sabo who escaped because of plot armor is stupid because I can name a dozen instances of Blackbeard actually fighting that have made him look “bad” in your terms. Emphasis on in your terms because I don’t think Blackbeard is weak or not worthy of being one of the final villains in the slightest, but it’s stupid to say IMU won’t be because someone escaped from him