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Most, not all, Toby. Tell me Saikyo is not an extreme example with conviction.
As always, you try and misrepresent people because you're disingenuous to the extreme. It has not been debunked. I didn't even say the primary issue was grooming gangs. You likely don't live in the UK and haven't witnessed this stuff, so I don't blame you, and besides, I think forgiveness is one of the greatest virtues.
However, you are a man who argues only in bad faith. You have never once engaged with me in any manner that made you appear genuine in your attempt for dialogue. I do not fear, nor care, for ridicule, for when one is true and right they should not feel shame -- but pity for those who have lost their way.
You have extreme views, Saikyo. I have shown temperance. I acknowledge the issue is not black and white. However, I wish for British culture to endure and not bend to the Islamic faith. This does not make me evil. It does not make me racist. If you argue against me at the spirit of that argument, then you believe your religion is so sacrosanct that it should supplant all.
I have told people, AL, that I do not believe in blood and soil. They don't listen.
I have made it clear that I dislike an ideology, but not the people. I get told "muh brown and muzlams."
I have explained my experience as a descendent of immigrants. I am called Suella Braverman and my ancestors are uncle Toms.
I have condemned Hamas AND the Israeli government. I am called a racist.
I respect humans. But when one side do not fight fair, nor do they argue with a desire for compromise, then you either bend like a coward or you remain rigid. What would you do?
Even their "grooming gangs" nonsense has long since been debunked. But trust a bigot to ignore that and stick to his "muh I hate Pakistanis and Muslims in general".
Funny thing is the study was done by a group of former convicted terrorists. "I hate those muzlams, but I'll agree with what they say as long as its against those damned muzlams *sings the EDL anthem*". Low iq
Funny thing is the study was done by a group of former convicted terrorists. "I hate those muzlams, but I'll agree with what they say as long as its against those damned muzlams *sings the EDL anthem*". Low iq
However, you are a man who argues only in bad faith. You have never once engaged with me in any manner that made you appear genuine in your attempt for dialogue. I do not fear, nor care, for ridicule, for when one is true and right they should not feel shame -- but pity for those who have lost their way.
You have extreme views, Saikyo. I have shown temperance. I acknowledge the issue is not black and white. However, I wish for British culture to endure and not bend to the Islamic faith. This does not make me evil. It does not make me racist. If you argue against me at the spirit of that argument, then you believe your religion is so sacrosanct that it should supplant all.
I have told people, AL, that I do not believe in blood and soil. They don't listen.
I have made it clear that I dislike an ideology, but not the people. I get told "muh brown and muzlams."
I have explained my experience as a descendent of immigrants. I am called Suella Braverman and my ancestors are uncle Toms.
I have condemned Hamas AND the Israeli government. I am called a racist.
I respect humans. But when one side do not fight fair, nor do they argue with a desire for compromise, then you either bend like a coward or you remain rigid. What would you do?
It's still dehumanizing as you're making a huge blanket statement and condemning a huge group of people for the sins of a terrorist group. There's a reason as to why so many people are empathetic to the Palestinian struggle. These people have been imprisoned and humiliated for 70+ years. It's clear you hate Muslims, but you should at least refrain from making insensitive remarks such as these.
I am not making a blanket statement. There are just as many people outside of leftist circles who feel Palastine is not in the right. There is a reason other Arabic countries will not take them. I am not saying to consign them to their fate, but it's gotten to the point of war. And war has always happened. Israel should not have to give up their land for the Palestinians. It's their home too.
How far must one's lineage go back? The great grandmother who married my Indian great grandfather was British. My grandmother's husband was British. My father is British.
Everyone is a mix of some sort. It is not our blood that binds us to a nation but our values, convictions and adherence to their cultural norms and customs. Say what you will, but I am stalwart on this.
I think your argument comes from a puritanical standpoint -- a standard which nobody -- likely not even the Arabs of Palestine or the Native Americans of the North Americas can uphold. By this self same logic, the arguments which many make for Palestinian rights to the land are defunct. Do you disagree?
What do you culturally identify as? Are you 'pure of blood'? What defines your national identity?
Or are you just being a racist?
Everyone is a mix of some sort. It is not our blood that binds us to a nation but our values, convictions and adherence to their cultural norms and customs. Say what you will, but I am stalwart on this.
I think your argument comes from a puritanical standpoint -- a standard which nobody -- likely not even the Arabs of Palestine or the Native Americans of the North Americas can uphold. By this self same logic, the arguments which many make for Palestinian rights to the land are defunct. Do you disagree?
What do you culturally identify as? Are you 'pure of blood'? What defines your national identity?
Or are you just being a racist?
Well, mister okaka kaka is the first one claiming that muslim immigrants are killing the UK, so it feels really like that when his gradfather came from a country where discrimination of others (you know, the caste system) is the rule it was ok, but now it's not okay to come from a muslim country.
Kick the ladder my friend
Kick the ladder my friend
Are you calling all Muslims discriminatory? I don't think the discrimination is good. What I expect is for them to respect the country that gives them their rights and appreciates them. Not denigrates them on the world stage.
Aight Toby. You originally asked me to avoid messaging you, almost pleaded, in fact, and I was civil and avoided you. But if you bare fangs like this, I am not going to remain quiet.
Nobody has called the British a persecuted group per se. The fact you can make such a logical leap is more than enough evidence of your bad-faith arguments. I have said that the British deserve to have their culture, much like the Muslims of the Middle-East do and the Russians, and the Chinese, and the Japanese.
Fucking hell.
Do not presume you know a man that was willing to sacrifice all to stop tyranny. I was raised with respect for all so long as they showed you respect -- something I am constantly not shown -- and it was not me who cast the first stone.
I am agnostic for the most part, but I recently became more religious. I respect the values of Christianity and have started attending Church.
Aight Toby. You originally asked me to avoid messaging you, almost pleaded, in fact, and I was civil and avoided you. But if you bare fangs like this, I am not going to remain quiet.
Nobody has called the British a persecuted group per se. The fact you can make such a logical leap is more than enough evidence of your bad-faith arguments. I have said that the British deserve to have their culture, much like the Muslims of the Middle-East do and the Russians, and the Chinese, and the Japanese.
Fucking hell.
I’m pretty sure Hindus hate Muslims too, so ironically his grandfather would probably be agreeing with him
I am agnostic for the most part, but I recently became more religious. I respect the values of Christianity and have started attending Church.