Questions & Mysteries Why Zoro and Sanji can still get CoC (Specialist vs. User)

[Dark Hound]

Haters: "Why would Sanji have CoC? He doesn't have ambition and will while Zoro will unlock it":laughmoji::laughmoji:

The chance of Sanji having CoC is higher than Zoro at this point because of his royal blood and leadership LOLBut I doubt both of them will unlock CoC in Wano right now to be honest:cheers:

Aaaah yes Sanji with CoC the man who would give up All Blue for mermaids

Yeah right

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Great explanation of the correlation between specialists and personality @sanjikun

Would love Oda if expanded but obviously he wont

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Why? It's not like there is any use for that ability aside to compensate Luffy's lack of AoE, at least on fodder...

Just be patient, my boy luffy will show you soon why having CoC is important.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Aaaah yes Sanji with CoC the man who would give up All Blue for mermaids

Yeah right

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Great explanation of the correlation between specialists and personality @sanjikun

Would love Oda if expanded but obviously he wont

In order to find All Blue you need to destroy the whole Red Line and guess what? The World Government and the Navy aren't allow that so Sanji must need a quality of king and strength in order to achieve thatSanji even stated to Kuma back in Thriller Bark that he would be the most dangerous person out there

 

[Albino 👑]

Zoro and sanji haki clash

 

[Lunaria]

Roger - Old Gen Luffy
Rayleigh - Luffy's Master
Shanks - Luffy's role model

CoC is a Luffy wank tool that is only owned by Luffy's trainers, rivals, antagonists, and people who are just hype for Luffy in general ( people Luffy will surpass).

Zoro and Sanji are just Luffy's crewmates.

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CoC is just to make Luffy look special. Thats why non - main characters that are linked to Luffy have it. Zoro and Sanji are both main characters, albeit not as main as Luffy.....but still up there. If they were to have it...Luffy wouldnt look like the special jesus MC anymore.

What makes Luffy so special isn’t specifically the fact he can use CoC, it’s the fact he possesses every unique trait : CoC, D, hearing the voice of all things, future sight and advanced CoA. The only thing he lacks is awakening.

 

[Dark Hound]

In order to find All Blue you need to destroy the whole Red Line and guess what? The World Government and the Navy aren't allow that so Sanji must need a quality of king and strength in order to achieve thatSanji even stated to Kuma back in Thriller Bark that he would be the most dangerous person out there

 

[Chrono]

What makes Luffy so special isn’t specifically the fact he can use CoC, it’s the fact he possesses every unique trait : CoC, D, hearing the voice of all things, future sight and advanced CoA. The only thing he lacks is awakening.

The rest arent as important as CoC. CoC is remotely a hypetool for Luffy. With most of his allies and enemies having it.

 

[Geo]

It's not just amibition. It's the "qualities of a King".

Sanji is a prince so he fits that purpose very well. He is essentially like the Katakuri of he SHs.

His father is a King but he doesn't have COC

 

[Exodia.]

roger had 4 coc users on his crew zoro is luffy right hand and sanji is the vice captain of strawhats

most of the characters that have coc have royal blood in them luffy garp roger ace dragon are Ds dofalmingo is a celestial dragon and chinjao is king bigmom rules over an island while there are others like rayleigh

leadership and royal blood is 2 most important things in coc both sanji and zoro have the leadership part and sanji is a prince and zoro might be a son of wano daimyo

 

[BangOO🍅]

roger had 4 coc users on his crew zoro is luffy right hand and sanji is the vice captain of strawhats

most of the characters that have coc have royal blood in them luffy garp roger ace dragon are Ds dofalmingo is a celestial dragon and chinjao is king bigmom rules over an island while there are others like rayleigh

leadership and royal blood is 2 most important things in coc both sanji and zoro have the leadership part and sanji is a prince and zoro might be a son of wano daimyo

My only biggest question is, if Scopper Gaban had a conqueror haki too, that could lead the assumption that Sanji "might" had a conqueror haki too in the future.

But i dont know how, its just my assumption.

 

[Exodia.]

My only biggest question is, if Scopper Gaban had a conqueror haki too, that could lead the assumption that Sanji "might" had a conqueror haki too in the future.

But i dont know how, its just my assumption.

tbh i don't really see the parallel between sanji and scooper

 

[BangOO🍅]

tbh i don't really see the parallel between sanji and scooper

No, i mean the whole roger Pirates.

Roger, Rayleigh, Scopper and Luffy, Zoro, Sanji.

 

[Esc]

Honestly at this state of the manga I doubt any SH will get CoC, i think it would have been hinted sooner. Sanji had a whole arc focused on him before Wano and not sign of something related to CoC. There's Zoro "scary/demonic aura" but I'm not sure it is CoC either. Who knows tho.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Sanji having CoC makes no sense.

- His goal and ambitions isn’t anything special

- Hes not the right hand man or first mate to Luffy

- We’ve seen many times throughout the manga that he doesn’t have strong will

- He’s not a part of any of the big groups such as Yonko, Shichibukai or Worst Generation

- Also in his own ROYAL family he was considered a weakling who was useless

Zoro on the other hand has multiple prerequisites when it comes to having CoC

- He’s been shown to have strong will power since the start of the series

- His goal and ambitions are HUGE

- He’s the First mate of the SHP

To address a point i see others bringing up which is Sanji’s royal bloodline. Just because hes a royal it doesn’t mean he’s got a chance of having CoC.

We’ve seen a ton of royal family members throughout the series and only Doffy has had CoC and he had all the other prerequisites that Sanji doesn't have and that Zoro does have.

 

[Hiragaro]

I honestly don't see any reason for them to get it now, besides it being just a nice show of. It's too late for them to get it and it being relevant in by any means.
Luffy needed 2 Years to be able to controll it to a good level. If Zoro and Sanji would get it, they wouldn't be able to controll it and use it efficiently. For it too be any usefull, there has too be another Time Skip of atleast 1,5 - 2 years for them to learn it to controll it. As long as Oda doens't plan a second Time Skip i don't see any reason to give it to them.
I would like them to have it - but it's not a necessity. And so far, it only can knock out fodder, which is kinda lame...

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

I honestly don't see any reason for them to get it now, besides it being just a nice show of. It's too late for them to get it and it being relevant in by any means.
Luffy needed 2 Years to be able to controll it to a good level. If Zoro and Sanji would get it, they wouldn't be able to controll it and use it efficiently. For it too be any usefull, there has too be another Time Skip of atleast 1,5 - 2 years for them to learn it to controll it. As long as Oda doens't plan a second Time Skip i don't see any reason to give it to them.
I would like them to have it - but it's not a necessity. And so far, it only can knock out fodder, which is kinda lame...

Well we don’t know if they have already mastered it but are just yet to show it off.

 

[Hiragaro]

Well we don’t know if they have already mastered it but are just yet to show it off.

This would make Zero sense tho...

 

[style]

I honestly don't see any reason for them to get it now, besides it being just a nice show of. It's too late for them to get it and it being relevant in by any means.
Luffy needed 2 Years to be able to controll it to a good level. If Zoro and Sanji would get it, they wouldn't be able to controll it and use it efficiently. For it too be any usefull, there has too be another Time Skip of atleast 1,5 - 2 years for them to learn it to controll it. As long as Oda doens't plan a second Time Skip i don't see any reason to give it to them.
I would like them to have it - but it's not a necessity. And so far, it only can knock out fodder, which is kinda lame...

I think CoC depends only on its user's very will, it can't be trained or mastered

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

This would make Zero sense tho...

Why’s that ?

 

[Hiragaro]

I think CoC depends only on its user's very will, it can't be trained or mastered

Luffy always had a strong will, but he couldn't controll it. He couldn't use it freely or efficiently. Only after the 2 Year TS he could controll it to the point, where he could choose who he wants to knock out and who not.

Why’s that ?

There were alot of situations where they could have used it. If they appereantly have it and can even controll it, it would make no sense, for them not too use if before. It would come out of nowhere.