Powers & Abilities Where does the story say that Zoro has ACoA?

[DonWick]

You can go back and check the Caesar fight yourself. There is multiple instances of Luffy attacking and grabbing Caesar without the use of Hardening. The only other explanation is using basic invisible Haki.

What Luffy didn't know how to do was flow his Haki outwards. Coating wasn't the problem. Even when he flashbacked to Rayleigh and the Boa sisters, it was all instances of them flowing the Haki out of their bodies.

I got a little mixed up. It's coating -> Flowing/Barrier -> Penetration/Internal Destruction

What Hyogoro, Zoro and the Scabbards know is Flowing/Barrier.

Zoro can't know penetration/internal Destruction, as he was surprised at "The Haki Luffy learned from Hyogoro", when Luffy first used it against Kaido. If he knew it, he wouldn't have been surprised by it.

Whatever the case may be, if we want to call flowing/barrier the advanced version, then what Luffy does with Internal Destruction is a step beyond that. I guess we'll call it MCoA, for Mastered CoA.

Zoro just doesn’t have ACoA. The Zoro boys will never admit it though.

 

[Iaarm]

No aCoC without aCoA

 

[DonWick]

No aCoC without aCoA

Who decided that?

 

[Peroroncino]

You're so focused on the Barrier thing.. It's escaping Zoro's CoO range Barrier.. Zoro let him a chance to leave the fight..



It's related to Swordsmanship though if it improves it..

Base CoC tamed Enma.. Making him reach KoH..


I can Agree with you for CoA level 2 Barrier but not CoA level 3..

Unfortunately i focus on whats in the manga while you focus on what the schizo voices in your head tell you thats why you use made up terms and i use real ones

 

[Jackteo]

Big DonWick W

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Zoro just doesn’t have ACoA. The Zoro boys will never admit it though.

I mean, I don't really know how much clearer one can get, when even when the character himself is showing a surprised reaction to Luffy using it against Kaido.

He's speaking as if he's witnessing this kind of Haki for the first time. You can't have it, and be surprised by it at the same time.

 

[Rootbeer]

Unfortunately i focus on whats in the manga while you focus on what the schizo voices in your head tell you thats why you use made up terms and i use real ones

It's a matter of interpretation.. You only see the '' barrier '' word and don't factor in the context..

 

[Boiroy]

Why TF everyone turning out to be Rootbeer's step Bros day by day

Btw thank God Kurwa is banned 😊😳

 

[Albino 👑]

Zoro and the scabbards haven’t shown penetrative armament
They have barrier haki like marigold tho

Just like the the term acoc is pretty much useless it’s the same with acoa. Both terms are confusing and don’t really help anyone when used in discussions

 

[BillSlipton]

All of those attacks were to shallow. Luffy stated it. When Zoro damaged Kaido ACoC was involved.

Too shallow to put him on his back sure. But they were part of why his health bar went down.

That's like saying sanjis kicks pre exo did nothing to queen. Even tho he stated to queen that they did effect him.

The evidence is in the opponents reactions. If he's hurt... he took damage. Even if it's shallow. They show pain.

However I do agree that zoros attack used acoc and that it was the first attack to really get through when compared to the rest.

But even then it fell short and kaido even said so. Internal destruction. Raw force... etc. These are all things that do damage to any character in one piece. It may be minimal. But it's still damage.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Its obvious zoro has adv coa. BM even warned Kaido to dodge zoro's attacks hence.

 

[DonWick]

Its obvious zoro has adv coa. BM even warned Kaido to dodge zoro's attacks hence.

She said that isn’t an ordinary sword. She didn’t say anything about Zoro. Enma likely pulled Zoros CoC out and imbued it into the attack if anything. Doesn’t prove ACoA.

 

[Rukusho]

@DonWick what's advanced CoA to you?

I can literally pull any moment from the Manga to prove Zoro has it but let's see your definition.

 

[vihaan]

Y'all are so brilliant, I'm not even going to argue anymore.

First Rootbeer and now this clown.

Zoro doesn't have AdCoC , Zoro Doesn't have AdCoA.

Do you all have decent idea how strong bro base haki is, that he doesn't even need advance forms of haki to Damage top tier that even Kinds of Luffy with Advanced Application can't pull of.

I'll simply let y'all believe what you want , but if that's true , this becomes a Zoro Wank thread of.

Zoro Base Haki > Luffy advanced Haki.

Lets pray Zoro doesn't get advanced Application or bro will Power creep MC lmao.

 

[Rootbeer]

Zoro and the scabbards haven’t shown penetrative armament
They have barrier haki like marigold tho

Just like the the term acoc is pretty much useless it’s the same with acoa. Both terms are confusing and don’t really help anyone when used in discussions

Bro that's not it..

Penetrative Armament for Swordsmen is imbuing their Sword in hardened Haki..

Hyogoro doesn't know how to infuse his Sword in Haki.. That's why the most he could teach Luffy was CoA Barrier, Emission level 2..

 

[Albino 👑]

Bro that's not it..

Penetrative Armament for Swordsmen is imbuing their Sword in hardened Haki..

Hyogoro doesn't know how to infuse his Sword in Haki.. That's why the most he could teach Luffy was CoA Barrier, Emission level 2..

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Hyogoro was famous for using the mighty blade in the past. He can obviously use haki on his sword

Harding is it’s own thing

 

[Rootbeer]

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Hyogoro was famous for using the mighty blade in the past. He can obviously use haki on his sword

Harding is it’s own thing

I think the epithet is more about himself than his Swordsmanship.. He couldn't teach CoA level 3 to Luffy which is literally infusing Haki in things, like shackles or Blades..

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Zoro has the barrier the same thing that hyogoro showed to luffy (no touch) is the same thing that swordsmen use to cut steel/not cut a piece of paper.

luffy advanced above this and can destroy internally, zoro seemingly doesn’t have this. At least by my interpretation of the manga, but I think oda will only have him show it if he wants Zoro to not actually cut someone.

Roger divine departure always stood out to me not only did it not cut, it internally made oden bleed.

shanks divine departure didn’t cut but of course it connected but this time there isn’t a clear shot of kidds face like it was with oden to tell if there was blood.

someone like zoro doesn’t really care for internal hits as he wants to be a swordsman who cuts everything, so i can only see him using internal destruction if he has it when he does not want to cut which we haven’t had that moment yet . Being that his specialty is coa I wouldn’t be shocked if oda has him show it though.

 

[Albino 👑]

I think the epithet is more about himself than his Swordsmanship.. He couldn't teach CoA level 3 to Luffy which is literally infusing Haki in things, like shackles or Blades..

He was describing how haki is used by the swordman in wano and he’s one of them

No because he literally says the 3rd level is capable of penetrating one’s interior and damaging someone from the inside. That isn’t hardening

 

[Rootbeer]

@DonWick what's advanced CoA to you?

I can literally pull any moment from the Manga to prove Zoro has it but let's see your definition.

Zoro never used CoA Barrier, Emission level 2 on his body or his Swords before..

He was describing how haki is used by the swordman in wano and he’s one of them

No because he literally says the 3rd level is capable of penetrating one’s interior and damaging someone from the inside. That isn’t hardening

He's speaking generally because he's a knowledgeable old man.. Doesn't mean he can do it.. Similar to Kaido speaking on Awakening and not showing it..

Tell me what's the difference between infusing Haki in the Shackles making them implode and infusing Haki in your Blade?..