Controversial General Political Discussion
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the same elon musk
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-alex-jones-twitter/
The same right wingers
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089221657/dont-say-gay-florida-desantis
I was literally making a joke
If thinking its goofy af then yes i am a denialist.
????
I didn't say needed to, just pointing out the guy who actually has (me) probably knows considering that's all Marx talks about
Okay this is clearly a language barrier issue. I said ONLY talk about LGBT issues if my comment is wrong, because if you talk about anything else you're as much as in denial as I am..
I was expanding on this
so be more clear on what you're talking about. Your comment clearly applies to this as well.
Imagine calling someone like this center right lol
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-alex-jones-twitter/
The same right wingers
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089221657/dont-say-gay-florida-desantis
I was literally making a joke
If thinking its goofy af then yes i am a denialist.
????
I didn't say needed to, just pointing out the guy who actually has (me) probably knows considering that's all Marx talks about
Okay this is clearly a language barrier issue. I said ONLY talk about LGBT issues if my comment is wrong, because if you talk about anything else you're as much as in denial as I am..
I was expanding on this
so be more clear on what you're talking about. Your comment clearly applies to this as well.
Imagine calling someone like this center right lol
It's even worse when we go by values. The development is wrong in both sides of the spectrum, because on the left spectrum socialism is the mean to reach communism. This is the reason why people state that true socialism was never been applied, because it's a utopia. Anarchy and communism aren't even correlated, except in the minds of people that don't understand Marx. At best, you could make a inverse paradigm where people start as anarchs, create communal societies and then reach communism at the end.
On the other side of the spectrum, they put fascism as the natural development of the extreme right but if we go by ideology, while the graphic is correct that capitalism starts with liberalism at his core it is about individual powers over the state (a idea that is now taken over by the left) and at the extreme of the spectrum the utopia would be a post- scarcity society. Control of the capitalism by the state is a argument that started from the left and fascism is not the evolution of capitalism or even a state capitalism (BTW, the name is retarded if you know a little about economics) but a political movement and ideology. Mixing economics with politics is moronic. You can have societies from the left with capitalism as well as right wing societies.
In resume, this graphic is too oversimplified and mix things that don't necessarily mix together. It's probably from a undergraduate that is in sociology 101 and don't understand that some names and meanings are different between economic concepts and political concepts, like liberalism.
Thanks. I just assumed that you would be younger.
On the other side of the spectrum, they put fascism as the natural development of the extreme right but if we go by ideology, while the graphic is correct that capitalism starts with liberalism at his core it is about individual powers over the state (a idea that is now taken over by the left) and at the extreme of the spectrum the utopia would be a post- scarcity society. Control of the capitalism by the state is a argument that started from the left and fascism is not the evolution of capitalism or even a state capitalism (BTW, the name is retarded if you know a little about economics) but a political movement and ideology. Mixing economics with politics is moronic. You can have societies from the left with capitalism as well as right wing societies.
In resume, this graphic is too oversimplified and mix things that don't necessarily mix together. It's probably from a undergraduate that is in sociology 101 and don't understand that some names and meanings are different between economic concepts and political concepts, like liberalism.
Thanks. I just assumed that you would be younger.
I only discuss about those subject because I reply to transphobic post 
I'm rarely the one opening the discussion about that. So ask people to be less toxic lol
No I only fight toxicity.. You should see me against fascism or racism lol
I proceeded differently, I changed my name. deal with it. I don't owe you anything lol
Never said that, stop inventing fallacious arguments.
Not saying that we are radical because you read the book, I say that I'm not radical enough to read it yet. This is the way I learn things and the way I radicalize myself, I'm not ready to read that book. Glad you read it. I do things differently.
Yes it is that simple. This is VERY simple. Stop overcomplicating things, it only makes you blind from the real issue.
I didn't say the right was coherent lol
Ok
What do you mean ? I talk about a lot of subject. In fact I'm the one who brings the much subjects of discussion here: AI / riots / LGBTQ+ issues / Antifascism / Right VS Left / The reponsibility of playing the game of a transphobe / Masculinities etc.
I talk about a lot of things but I'm constantly stopped by transphobic comment from trollers so I reply and people get excited.
I consider that oppressed people can use violence against oppressors if necessary. In that case I support the right of the Palestinian to defend themself (hence why I (or international laws) don't call the Hamas a terrorist organization) That said, in war there are rules and no side has the right to commit horrible exactions. We must denounce the war crimes of both sides.
If you prefer I can say rightist, I don't like the notion of center anyway.
Isn't anarchism the end state of communism ? If not then this is indeed wrong.
Fascism is indeed a natural development of the far right.
No. Only by liberal, and liberal are not leftist
You are right that this graph is not ideal, the point is not that a specific state is the evolution of another. I put the arrow to point out the direction of the radicalism. In reality its the far right and conservative that are the seeds for fascism.
Nothing here is about economy. Its about VALUES. You are confusing economy and politic and values.
Again, its not about the state or the economy, this graph represent VALUES the core principles behind the conflicts in politics.
No, not ideal yes, oversimplified, not at all. Reality is not complicated, its time you stop overcomplicating it.
The clash of values in our worlds are very simple.
Damn the biases.
I'm rarely the one opening the discussion about that. So ask people to be less toxic lolNo I only fight toxicity.. You should see me against fascism or racism lol
I proceeded differently, I changed my name. deal with it. I don't owe you anything lol
Never said that, stop inventing fallacious arguments.
Not saying that we are radical because you read the book, I say that I'm not radical enough to read it yet. This is the way I learn things and the way I radicalize myself, I'm not ready to read that book. Glad you read it. I do things differently.
Yes it is that simple. This is VERY simple. Stop overcomplicating things, it only makes you blind from the real issue.
I didn't say the right was coherent lol
Ok
What do you mean ? I talk about a lot of subject. In fact I'm the one who brings the much subjects of discussion here: AI / riots / LGBTQ+ issues / Antifascism / Right VS Left / The reponsibility of playing the game of a transphobe / Masculinities etc.
I talk about a lot of things but I'm constantly stopped by transphobic comment from trollers so I reply and people get excited.
I consider that oppressed people can use violence against oppressors if necessary. In that case I support the right of the Palestinian to defend themself (hence why I (or international laws) don't call the Hamas a terrorist organization) That said, in war there are rules and no side has the right to commit horrible exactions. We must denounce the war crimes of both sides.
If you prefer I can say rightist, I don't like the notion of center anyway.
Isn't anarchism the end state of communism ? If not then this is indeed wrong.
Fascism is indeed a natural development of the far right.
No. Only by liberal, and liberal are not leftist
You are right that this graph is not ideal, the point is not that a specific state is the evolution of another. I put the arrow to point out the direction of the radicalism. In reality its the far right and conservative that are the seeds for fascism.
Nothing here is about economy. Its about VALUES. You are confusing economy and politic and values.
Again, its not about the state or the economy, this graph represent VALUES the core principles behind the conflicts in politics.
No, not ideal yes, oversimplified, not at all. Reality is not complicated, its time you stop overcomplicating it.
The clash of values in our worlds are very simple.
Damn the biases.
You talk like radicalization is a good thing
Can you please stop talking so much about values? You're giving me PTSD flashbacks of EU politicians virtute signalling MuH wEstErN vALuEs when it's convenient for them while shitting on the very same values when it benefits them.
It makes you sound dishonest. Oh so you drew it yourself? Nononononononononononononono
No
It makes you sound dishonest. Oh so you drew it yourself? Nononononononononononononono
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What realism ? Living in a overcomplicated world ? The fantasm of over complication is the exact reason why there are presently people saying that the Israelopalestinian conflict is too complicated and that we can't take a side.
This is pure mystical BS to avoid facing reality. The reality is that structure of power are very simple to understand.
This is pure mystical BS to avoid facing reality. The reality is that structure of power are very simple to understand.
C'mon, don't you have some Carrot semi-naked pictures to writes essays about?
You had to ruin this thread with your shenanigans, again.
You are the definition of a narcissist, just like Finalbeta. You have nothing worthwile to say, and that's why you use this horrendous word salad.
Because since you don't have any content nor moral integrity, you hide your ignorance behind walls of text, victimism and your horrid narcissistic tendency.
You are a joke, everybody think you are a joke.
You wanted to explain to a guy that transitioned what LGBT issues really are.
You wrote thousands of messages about your furry waifu and not even had the integrity and courage to maintain your word. And you know why you did not? Because you have no integrity. The values you talk about and parade, are just a façade as shallow as a puddle, and everybody can see you for what you are.
You had to ruin this thread with your shenanigans, again.
You are the definition of a narcissist, just like Finalbeta. You have nothing worthwile to say, and that's why you use this horrendous word salad.
Because since you don't have any content nor moral integrity, you hide your ignorance behind walls of text, victimism and your horrid narcissistic tendency.
You are a joke, everybody think you are a joke.
You wanted to explain to a guy that transitioned what LGBT issues really are.
You wrote thousands of messages about your furry waifu and not even had the integrity and courage to maintain your word. And you know why you did not? Because you have no integrity. The values you talk about and parade, are just a façade as shallow as a puddle, and everybody can see you for what you are.