Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1101 Spoilers Discussion

[Sentinel]

Cross Guild only exists as a way for us to get Mihawk v. Zoro.

Luffy aint fighting Buggy, nor is Sanji fighting Crocodile.

Zoro has to beat Shiryu before that, so BBP will 100% fall before Cross Guild faces off against SHP.

Or what if, this might be an unpopular opinion, Zoro and Mihawk are about to clash in Laugh Tale, Shiryu tries to do his dirty sneak attack trick on Zoro again but Zoro easily one shots him before facing Mihawk, dropping some line like "I can't deal with small fry like you. Now I'm about to beat the WSS!"?
Yes, Shiryu might have some more skills than expected but he's ultimately another gimmick fighter who will pressure Zoro bcoz of his gimmick for a few minutes. Zoro finds this out and one shots Shiryu anyway. Maybe my expectations are just that low but I can't possibly imagine how a simple invisibility ability makes Shiryu jump between tiers to match Zoro. Heck, I can already see current Zoro beating Shiryu or I'm simply underestimating him. But with Mihawk? There's no gimmick, just pure Haki + skills.

Okay, I know this is more than just farfetched but Zoro can't struggle against fucking Shiryu and then defeat someone stronger than Shanks in a single arc. Either Zoro struggles against Shiryu in Laugh Tale and defeats Mihawk in the final war (again, Cross Guild exists for a reason) or Shiryu will simply be wasted if Zoro also fights Mihawk in the same arc. BBP sure will be beaten in Laugh Tale, as well as Cross Guild and RHP. Or the entire war happens before strawhats reach Laugh Tale. Basically a pure battle royale. Maybe the navy will participate too (real low chance Akainu just sits on his chair and waits until the entire EoS alliance raids his HQ without doing anthing LMAO).

Either way, I believe Elbaf will be more important than people think if that battle royale stuff happens in Elbaf...

 

[mly90]

For me it’s we got none of these fb in Wano for character we were interested in. There is no way I will be receptive to lengthy kuma fb it pisses me even more

 

[DavyJones]

Or what if, this might be an unpopular opinion, Zoro and Mihawk are about to clash in Laugh Tale, Shiryu tries to do his dirty sneak attack trick on Zoro again but Zoro easily one shots him before facing Mihawk, dropping some line like "I can't deal with small fry like you. Now I'm about to beat the WSS!"?
Yes, Shiryu might have some more skills than expected but he's ultimately another gimmick fighter who will pressure Zoro bcoz of his gimmick for a few minutes. Zoro finds this out and one shots Shiryu anyway. Maybe my expectations are just that low but I can't possibly imagine how a simple invisibility ability makes Shiryu jump between tiers to match Zoro. Heck, I can already see current Zoro beating Shiryu or I'm simply underestimating him. But with Mihawk? There's no gimmick, just pure Haki + skills.

Okay, I know this is more than just farfetched but Zoro can't struggle against fucking Shiryu and then defeat someone stronger than Shanks in a single arc. Either Zoro struggles against Shiryu in Laugh Tale and defeats Mihawk in the final war (again, Cross Guild exists for a reason) or Shiryu will simply be wasted if Zoro also fights Mihawk in the same arc. BBP sure will be beaten in Laugh Tale, as well as Cross Guild and RHP. Or the entire war happens before strawhats reach Laugh Tale. Basically a pure battle royale. Maybe the navy will participate too (real low chance Akainu just sits on his chair and waits until the entire EoS alliance raids his HQ without doing anthing LMAO).

Either way, I believe Elbaf will be more important than people think if that battle royale stuff happens in Elbaf...

Shiryu is going to be the top tier sword fight Zoro fans bitch incessantly about. He'll scale *near* Mihawk and will be his last test before taking the title of WSS.

I just hope that Shiryu is a mid/high diff, and Mihawk is an extreme diff where Zoro dumpsters Mihawks ultimate attack with his own.

 

[Sentinel]

I just hope that Shiryu is a mid/high diff, and Mihawk is an extreme diff where Zoro dumpsters Mihawks ultimate attack with his own.

Again, Shiryu cannot be a mid-high diff fight for Zoro if he fights Mihawk few minutes afterwards. How would it make sense if Zoro already starts the fight with a handicap against his strongest rival?

Plus, Shiryu was Magellan's equal and like I said, an invisible power doesn't suddenly make him jump between tiers, that's absurd. Not to mention making him near Mihawk.

 

[Urouge D. Rouge]

I hope Oda never shows Mihawk vs Zoro

also i'd be entertianed if no mugiwara reached their goals

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

For me it’s we got none of these fb in Wano for character we were interested in. There is no way I will be receptive to lengthy kuma fb it pisses me even more

That's fair. I initially didn't care for this fb either as Kuma was not someone cared for, but I've come around.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

For me it’s we got none of these fb in Wano for character we were interested in. There is no way I will be receptive to lengthy kuma fb it pisses me even more

Out of curiosity which Wano character do you think deserved a flashback? Only character who got shafted is Zoro but that’s kinda because his past doesn’t matter to his story as much as kumas does.

 

[Moegara]

For me it’s we got none of these fb in Wano for character we were interested in. There is no way I will be receptive to lengthy kuma fb it pisses me even more

This was probably the last chapter.

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

Or what if, this might be an unpopular opinion, Zoro and Mihawk are about to clash in Laugh Tale, Shiryu tries to do his dirty sneak attack trick on Zoro again but Zoro easily one shots him before facing Mihawk, dropping some line like "I can't deal with small fry like you. Now I'm about to beat the WSS!"?
Yes, Shiryu might have some more skills than expected but he's ultimately another gimmick fighter who will pressure Zoro bcoz of his gimmick for a few minutes. Zoro finds this out and one shots Shiryu anyway. Maybe my expectations are just that low but I can't possibly imagine how a simple invisibility ability makes Shiryu jump between tiers to match Zoro. Heck, I can already see current Zoro beating Shiryu or I'm simply underestimating him. But with Mihawk? There's no gimmick, just pure Haki + skills.

Okay, I know this is more than just farfetched but Zoro can't struggle against fucking Shiryu and then defeat someone stronger than Shanks in a single arc. Either Zoro struggles against Shiryu in Laugh Tale and defeats Mihawk in the final war (again, Cross Guild exists for a reason) or Shiryu will simply be wasted if Zoro also fights Mihawk in the same arc. BBP sure will be beaten in Laugh Tale, as well as Cross Guild and RHP. Or the entire war happens before strawhats reach Laugh Tale. Basically a pure battle royale. Maybe the navy will participate too (real low chance Akainu just sits on his chair and waits until the entire EoS alliance raids his HQ without doing anthing LMAO).

Either way, I believe Elbaf will be more important than people think if that battle royale stuff happens in Elbaf...

This right there

Elbaf will be one of the most important arcs we will get in the story ,so many loose ends are pointing at Elbaf and way to many factions/characters have ties to Elbaf in some way or form .

Robin with Saul (Juicy Poneglyph Lore dumps )
Shanks with the Giants.
BM has history there ,the one giant who saw BM eating Mother Caramel will become important as well maybe.
Usopp and his Giant friends he made on the journey.(Dorry Brogy,and the Enies Lobby Giants)
Luffy with Hajrudin being one of his fleet captains.
Marines have ties with Giants.
Prince Loki ,his name comes from an god from Norse Mythologie ,so much stuff Oda can build on from the mythological standpoint.
Of course not to forget the wordplay Elbaf backwards means Fable .
Oda is cooking for Elbaf

 

[LayerZ]

Oda made some mistakes with 16 years old luffy but smalle one . Like dude is buffed ..
And he got the rope on his straw hat already .

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This right there

Elbaf will be one of the most important arcs we will get in the story ,so many loose ends are pointing at Elbaf and way to many factions/characters have ties to Elbaf in some way or form .

Robin with Saul (Juicy Poneglyph Lore dumps )
Shanks with the Giants.
BM has history there ,the one giant who saw BM eating Mother Caramel will become important as well maybe.
Usopp and his Giant friends he made on the journey.(Dorry Brogy,and the Enies Lobby Giants)
Luffy with Hajrudin being one of his fleet captains.
Marines have ties with Giants.
Prince Loki ,his name comes from an god from Norse Mythologie ,so much stuff Oda can build on from the mythological standpoint.
Of course not to forget the wordplay Elbaf backwards means Fable .
Oda is cooking for Elbaf

Forgetting about the chosen one Jika ??

 

[Mark chadsend]

Man the raws still aren't out? They really just forgot about the chapter lol

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Thinking 1102 flashback will be over is naive , how about more vegapunk flashbacks

People want Dragon.

I want Vegapunk giving birth to Pythagoras.

We are not the same /s

 

[Yoho]

Kuma shall die

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

1.threatens kuma
2.accuse sabo of murder (why is leader believing fake news)
3. leaves ivankov to rot in prison with promise i come free you when i get army...(then what is ra atm not big enough!!??) sounds like fake promise bs.(also he looked amused ivankov was in prison....)
4.watches luffy from distance. or he still staring off at the island where luffy was raised..even though luffy no longer there...
5. does not show emotion when ginny resurface or concern she sick/death bed. like kuma and ivankov who show real concern.
6.angry at kuma rushing off to see ginny in her final moments(panel shows angry expression.............)
7. forgot bonney exist
8. fakes confusion on where kuma going because programming when he led kuma to vega punk to get bonney cured.. he should know reason but keeps silent.

seriously that 8 strikes/bad signs

Yes, you just showed how terrible Dragon is, and I feel that people still haven't realized how horrible Kizaru is too.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

People want Dragon.

I want Vegapunk giving birth to Pythagoras.

We are not the same /s

I imagine it’d be very Zeus and Athena esque where he just pops out of punks open head

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

I mean she DID change her origin and race when she became bucanneer shaped.

Even still, Nika is dead and is a dead person from CENTURIES ago. We don't even know if he was a giant, just that he fought freely and happily. Her whipping out G3 (when all Luffy had at the start was a pistol)... lmao. So she can turn into a giant but not her bucanneer step-dad?

Blackbeard is also AN EXCEPTION. He is stated to be special and if Oda is REALLY going for the "anyone can have two fruits" that is DOG SHIT. Its a bigger retcon than the Nika fruit.

Bonney having even partial Nika mode is such dog shit.

Devil Fruit are born from people's dreams.

Bonney's dreams are associated with Nika.

This is a pirate manga where a character the size of my hand impregnated Big Mom.

If it's a stretch, it's because One Piece is a very stretchy manga.

 

[DavyJones]

Again, Shiryu cannot be a mid-high diff fight for Zoro if he fights Mihawk few minutes afterwards. How would it make sense if Zoro already starts the fight with a handicap against his strongest rival?

Plus, Shiryu was Magellan's equal and like I said, an invisible power doesn't suddenly make him jump between tiers, that's absurd. Not to mention making him near Mihawk.

I'm saying that in the time since the 2 year timeskip, he maybe, just maybe, got stronger with the Blackbeard pirates. And by that I mean he's one of the EoS villains because he is part of the BBP.

He scales near Mihawk by the time he fights Zoro and he's the final power up fight before beating Mihawk. There can be enough time for him to heal between these two fights.

 

[Pot Goblin]

Inb4 we focus on Bonney's pov for the next few chapters

 

[DavyJones]

Devil Fruit are born from people's dreams.

Bonney's dreams are associated with Nika.

This is a pirate manga where a character the size of my hand impregnated Big Mom.

If it's a stretch, it's because One Piece is a very stretchy manga.

Flexible and stretchy yeah, but are we REALLY going to hand wave away core mechanics of devil fruits like that?
They can do anything and everything because they are made of dreams? Can Doflamingo use his strings to go Nika mode?

Like literally every big shot pirate dreams of being the Pirate King, that doesn't make it true or have a PK fruit floating around!

Oda gets dick rode so hard for his world building, and now it seems Nika is just tearing it down wherever Oda finds it convenient.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Again, Shiryu cannot be a mid-high diff fight for Zoro if he fights Mihawk few minutes afterwards. How would it make sense if Zoro already starts the fight with a handicap against his strongest rival?

Plus, Shiryu was Magellan's equal and like I said, an invisible power doesn't suddenly make him jump between tiers, that's absurd. Not to mention making him near Mihawk.

Shiryu is for zoro what katakuri was for luffy: someone to develop his CoO.

Its the time where we see if Zoro's closed eye has something important or if it was just oda inserting a masonic one eyed symbolism for his overlords.

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Flexible and stretchy yeah, but are we REALLY going to hand wave away core mechanics of devil fruits like that?
They can do anything and everything because they are made of dreams? Can Doflamingo use his strings to go Nika mode?

Like literally every big shot pirate dreams of being the Pirate King, that doesn't make it true or have a PK fruit floating around!

Oda gets dick rode so hard for his world building, and now it seems Nika is just tearing it down wherever Oda finds it convenient.

Thats what i said, nika's plot is destroying one piece lore.


Everything feels cheaper and non earned, luffy went from a chosen one with a shit fruit who worked hard and had tons of luck to a chosen one carried by his god fruit.