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Kyou Kai was nerfed and still took her pound of flesh off Hou Ken.
At full strength, with her weight, Kyou Kai could've won that fight.
Mou Bu is not the warrior Hou Ken was. He doesn't have his speed, size or technique. I have him #1 on paper in base but he should lose to Kyou Kai every time.
At full strength, with her weight, Kyou Kai could've won that fight.
Mou Bu is not the warrior Hou Ken was. He doesn't have his speed, size or technique. I have him #1 on paper in base but he should lose to Kyou Kai every time.
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Taking a finger or two is a low tier injury for warriors of that calibre. The difference in strength between Houken and Kyoukai was well established imo. She was crushed.
In no scenario would KK have been able to beat Houken. He is her worst nightmare. He's well accustomed to defending against her fighting style and once she gets tired it's over.
The reason why Moubu will have lots of trouble with KK is because he always fights very aggressively which will give KK openings but in the end I'm confident that Shukai KK is not beating any Top Tier general 1v1 whether it is Houken, Moubu, Man'U or maybe even Gaimou.
Portrayal still exists.
In no scenario would KK have been able to beat Houken. He is her worst nightmare. He's well accustomed to defending against her fighting style and once she gets tired it's over.
The reason why Moubu will have lots of trouble with KK is because he always fights very aggressively which will give KK openings but in the end I'm confident that Shukai KK is not beating any Top Tier general 1v1 whether it is Houken, Moubu, Man'U or maybe even Gaimou.
Portrayal still exists.
Where Houken and Kyoukai distinguish themeselves as complete outliers in the manga, strangers, is in some of their solo feats against bunch of soldiers. Houken individually managing to break through Kyou's camp which was guarded by 2,000 soldiers of her? If any other top warrior tried that shit, Ouki or Moubu or whoever, his head would have been on a spike in approximately two minutes. Lol.
When it comes to 1v1s instead, Hara has created this concept of "Weight" that allows powerful Great Generals warriors to overcome the likes of Houken, despite his weird ass capabilities.
When it comes to 1v1s instead, Hara has created this concept of "Weight" that allows powerful Great Generals warriors to overcome the likes of Houken, despite his weird ass capabilities.
Then why had no one achieved anything like it before? Hou Ken's been stabbed and cut many times, he didn't lose any parts of himself until then. Your logic here is wanting.
You are blatantly sidestepping the fact Kyou Kai was nerfed and fatigue after fighting on very little food and rest for 15 days.
In terms of skill and technique, Kyou Kai is a match for Hou Ken.
Dude, she was carving this mfer like a Christmas turkey while severely disadvantaged.
Just the cut the shit already.
Kyou Kai has been a Top 3-5 fighter since her introduction and has remained there from the very beginning. You may not like it, but it is what it is.
That you would list fighters she would easily delete like Man'U and Gai Mou says it all. You're arguing based on what you think the material should be, not what it is.
Yes.
The portrayal of Kyou Kai as a supremely gifted prodigy even among her people that specialises in assassination and gets to work quickly.
And the portrayal of Mou Bu, a man who is a slow starter and has some legitimate concerns about his mental fortitude.
My guy, she used to work as an assassin.
She's taken out extremely tough fighters 1v1 like Yuu Ren, and groups of lower level Shiyuu - all in the same fight.
You're arguing your feelings about the character, not the facts.
You are blatantly sidestepping the fact Kyou Kai was nerfed and fatigue after fighting on very little food and rest for 15 days.
In terms of skill and technique, Kyou Kai is a match for Hou Ken.
Dude, she was carving this mfer like a Christmas turkey while severely disadvantaged.
Just the cut the shit already.
Kyou Kai has been a Top 3-5 fighter since her introduction and has remained there from the very beginning. You may not like it, but it is what it is.
That you would list fighters she would easily delete like Man'U and Gai Mou says it all. You're arguing based on what you think the material should be, not what it is.
Yes.
The portrayal of Kyou Kai as a supremely gifted prodigy even among her people that specialises in assassination and gets to work quickly.
And the portrayal of Mou Bu, a man who is a slow starter and has some legitimate concerns about his mental fortitude.
My guy, she used to work as an assassin.
She's taken out extremely tough fighters 1v1 like Yuu Ren, and groups of lower level Shiyuu - all in the same fight.
You're arguing your feelings about the character, not the facts.
Houken and Kyoukai have those strange capabilities (Divine tier technique that cannot be imitated, mystical abilities of movements like the dance, immense speed and power, even a different skin for Houken) that really make it seem like they don't belong in this manga.
Normal top tier warriors could certainly end up being killed very quickly by a bunch of soldiers in the right circumstance. Houken would just break through the same soldiers, no injuries, and that would be the end of it. The same tactic, to work on him, would require a completely different number of them.
However in a 1v1 things can change.
Normal top tier warriors could certainly end up being killed very quickly by a bunch of soldiers in the right circumstance. Houken would just break through the same soldiers, no injuries, and that would be the end of it. The same tactic, to work on him, would require a completely different number of them.
However in a 1v1 things can change.
It happened to Rinko too. Taking a finger is a parting gift for the losing warrior.
Ouki didn't need to take a finger. He beat Houken to the ground.
Kyoukai was nowhere near close to slaying Houken and there is no scenario in which Shukai Kyoukai could've done that.
So was Shin. The concept of weight allows a general to draw strength not seen before while being on the brink of exhaustion. That Shin managed to slay Houken and Kyoukai was overwhelmingly defeated by him only goes to show the difference in weight between Shin and Kyoukai.
Yes. I definitely agree that Kyoukai was a very good match for Houken. Houken is usually world's above any other warrior in terms of skill but Kyoukai actually comes somewhat close.
Houken was constantly avoiding any critical damage.
Sry for you but you're the one here that doesn't understand the material. The fighters I listed all rank above the likes of Kyoukai.
I can give her Gaimou but she meets her limit at Man'U. She loses to Shin and Ouhon as well.
And the portrayal that puts Moubu in a completely different realm as a general in comparison to someone like Kyoukai.
RBK knows the abilities of Shin and Kyoukai very well so why is he leaving the Top 1-3 warrior of this series left unchecked ?
You've created a completely made up level for Kyoukai and pretend like any canon material supports it.
What argument is that. We have the examples of all her 1v1 battles and we have seen her limits.
So please don't try to make me seem as the unreasonable one. This isn't fanfiction Kyoukai we are talking about.
Ouki didn't need to take a finger. He beat Houken to the ground.
Kyoukai was nowhere near close to slaying Houken and there is no scenario in which Shukai Kyoukai could've done that.
So was Shin. The concept of weight allows a general to draw strength not seen before while being on the brink of exhaustion. That Shin managed to slay Houken and Kyoukai was overwhelmingly defeated by him only goes to show the difference in weight between Shin and Kyoukai.
Yes. I definitely agree that Kyoukai was a very good match for Houken. Houken is usually world's above any other warrior in terms of skill but Kyoukai actually comes somewhat close.
Houken was constantly avoiding any critical damage.
Sry for you but you're the one here that doesn't understand the material. The fighters I listed all rank above the likes of Kyoukai.
I can give her Gaimou but she meets her limit at Man'U. She loses to Shin and Ouhon as well.
And the portrayal that puts Moubu in a completely different realm as a general in comparison to someone like Kyoukai.
RBK knows the abilities of Shin and Kyoukai very well so why is he leaving the Top 1-3 warrior of this series left unchecked ?
You've created a completely made up level for Kyoukai and pretend like any canon material supports it.
What argument is that. We have the examples of all her 1v1 battles and we have seen her limits.
So please don't try to make me seem as the unreasonable one. This isn't fanfiction Kyoukai we are talking about.
