liberal and leftist are just the same meaning insofar as america, canada and other western countries are concerned
Still no. Still no the same. Not even close. Even after month of ban, you are still oblivious to this simple fact

You are still confusing progressism with liberalism, which means you are making a big political comprehension mistake.


dealing death threats
Wait @AL sama death threats are not a motive of permanent ban here? Wuat The F*** :choppawhat:
 
Still no. Still no the same. Not even close. Even after month of ban, you are still oblivious to this simple fact

You are still confusing progressism with liberalism, which means you are making a big political comprehension mistake.



Wait @AL sama death threats are not a motive of permanent ban here? Wuat The F*** :choppawhat:
Al sama wasn’t here when it went down, it was reborn. I’m honestly just as shocked as you because on top of the threats he threw racism and sexism into the mix too. Regardless, he served his ban. If they saw it fit for him to return then who am I to argue. I’m just shocked as all. Hopefully bob has matured but seeing as how he’s still posting the same uneducated nonsense, that seems doubtful.
 

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Al sama wasn’t here when it went down, it was reborn. I’m honestly just as shocked as you because on top of the threats he threw racism and sexism into the mix too. Regardless, he served his ban. If they saw it fit for him to return then who am I to argue. I’m just shocked as all. Hopefully bob has matured but seeing as how he’s still posting the same uneducated nonsense, that seems doubtful.
reborn is just an user lol

although I don't remember who dealt with bob
 
reborn is just an user lol

although I don't remember who dealt with bob
Damn, I was under the impression that he was a mod given how he was speaking when it happened. I’ve been shooting strays at the dude and it wasn’t even on him. I apologize for my ignorance though I still think Toby shouldn’t have been banned, bob should have been perma banned and that my ban extension was unwarranted. Anyways, I will drop it. I don’t want anymore problems to come from the situation.
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
Damn, I was under the impression that he was a mod given how he was speaking when it happened. I’ve been shooting strays at the dude and it wasn’t even on him. I apologize for my ignorance though I still think Toby shouldn’t have been banned, bob should have been perma banned and that my ban extension was unwarranted. Anyways, I will drop it. I don’t want anymore problems to come from the situation.
you guys are constantly first to turn arguments to insults. I cant believe you refuse to look at how you act yourselves. I have zero ill will against you or anyone here.
 
you guys are constantly first to turn arguments to insults. I cant believe you refuse to look at how you act yourselves. I have zero ill will against you or anyone here.
Dude, you came at me completely out of nowhere saying I was bitching. You weren’t here when it happened and it’s all been deleted. Shut the fuck up about it because you have no clue how it happened. You just wanted to dickride bob because you’re both conservatives and you’re a self admitted troll. Leave me alone if you’re going to keep talking about something you have no business being in.

For the record, I have no problems talking with sensible conservatives because I think everyone has a valid political view and I’ve never stated my political stance even once.
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
Dude, you came at me completely out of nowhere saying I was bitching. You weren’t here when it happened and it’s all been deleted. Shut the fuck up about it because you have no clue how it happened. You just wanted to dickride bob because you’re both conservatives and you’re a self admitted troll. Leave me alone if you’re going to keep talking about something you have no business being in.

For the record, I have no problems talking with sensible conservatives because I think everyone has a valid political view and I’ve never stated my political stance even once.
Well thats cool. Im personally liberal. I dont know you Ill be honest, but I know Tobys temperament. and if you half like him I wouldnt be surprised... But dont tell me you werent bitchin there ? becouse you deff were. three or four month has passed. I dont think It matters anymore. the next time Bob does something like that I have no doubt he will get permad
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Death threats are deff not cool
 
Well thats cool. Im personally liberal. I dont know you Ill be honest, but I know Tobys temperament. and if you half like him I wouldnt be surprised... But dont tell me you werent bitchin there ? becouse you deff were. three or four month has passed. I dont think It matters anymore. the next time Bob does something like that I have no doubt he will get permad
I’m just shocked that racist and sexist remarks on top of death threats didn’t result in a permanent ban but if the mods saw it fit for him to return then I have to accept that. I’m still free to express my opinion. If you want to think of it as bitching then you’re free to do so but you can’t say that and expect someone not to return the same energy to you. I insulted you because of your remark saying I was bitching, it’s as simple as that. If there’s one thing we both agree on its that it doesn’t matter anymore so let’s move passed it now. Clearly we don’t know each other and I also have no ill will towards you.
 
you guys are constantly first to turn arguments to insults. I cant believe you refuse to look at how you act yourselves. I have zero ill will against you or anyone here.
Contrary to Z-Saber. I think that not everyone has a "valid" political views. There are those who fight for other people and there are those who fight to harm them, even if they don't realize it. Therefore there are people who are right and people who are wrong.

Here, the problem is that you don't realize how violent certains arguments are.

Fighting racism, sexism, fascism, transphobia, liberalism, xenophobia, antisemitism, islamophobia with violence is not illegitimate at all. Its in fact one of the best way to counter those toxic ideas.

So I do not blame people here who will sometimes choose to resort to insults against the far rights or incels like Bob. Sadly, as we live in a world were moderation staff are extra liberal/rightists, those staff won't care to take the context into account. You will therefore see aberations like the double ban of an incel profering sexist slur/death threat with someone who insult said incel because of their rethoric. Or like in my case, the double ban of a clear transphobe with the one who just choosed to not let him speak without contradiction (and without toxicity).

The problem is not really Bob. The problem is the system and it goes even beyond just this forum. The simple thought that - like I have been told - "you need to be two to banter" is a clear example of that liberalistic and toxic vision of political discourse. In reality there is most likely a person that is oppressive and one that is oppressed/know the oppressed.

Liberalism negates these simple notions of domination to hammer a vision of politic were everyones have different "valid" ideas. This is this thinking that result in liberals accepting the far right in the political debate.

This is why the fascism is rising
This is why the far right is rising
This is why toxicity is rising

If you want to be a good moderator. You need to accept to take a side and stop being a liberal.
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
Contrary to Z-Saber. I think that not everyone has a "valid" political views. There are those who fight for other people and there are those who fight to harm them, even if they don't realize it. Therefore there are people who are right and people who are wrong.

Here, the problem is that you don't realize how violent certains arguments are.

Fighting racism, sexism, fascism, transphobia, liberalism, xenophobia, antisemitism, islamophobia with violence is not illegitimate at all. Its in fact one of the best way to counter those toxic ideas.

So I do not blame people here who will sometimes choose to resort to insults against the far rights or incels like Bob. Sadly, as we live in a world were moderation staff are extra liberal/rightists, those staff won't care to take the context into account. You will therefore see aberations like the double ban of an incel profering sexist slur/death threat with someone who insult said incel because of their rethoric. Or like in my case, the double ban of a clear transphobe with the one who just choosed to not let him speak without contradiction (and without toxicity).

The problem is not really Bob. The problem is the system and it goes even beyond just this forum. The simple thought that - like I have been told - "you need to be two to banter" is a clear example of that liberalistic and toxic vision of political discourse. In reality there is most likely a person that is oppressive and one that is oppressed/know the oppressed.

Liberalism negates these simple notions of domination to hammer a vision of politic were everyones have different "valid" ideas. This is this thinking that result in liberals accepting the far right in the political debate.

This is why the fascism is rising
This is why the far right is rising
This is why toxicity is rising

If you want to be a good moderator. You need to accept to take a side and stop being a liberal.
Your political views are very harmfull, the most harmfull of all people here
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
If right wing is rising than its you to blame, becouse guys like you had took all social media platforms. politics like yours fucked shit up for people and they had enough, they fight back, and I dont blame them
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Here is a challenge for you. Can you tell me precisely WHAT is "very harmfull" about my political views and precisely WHY ?
We can talk all day but you wont listen, and some things I would say I dunno might get me banned, if you want we can disccuss in DMs
 
If right wing is rising than its you to blame, becouse guys like you had took all social media platforms. politics like yours fucked shit up for people and they had enough, they fight back, and I dont blame them
Social Media plateform are at the hands of liberals (Meta/Old Twitter) or the far/right (Current Twitter). The reason you think we are present a lot is not because we are. Its because our ideas are making the far right shiver. Those people being in majority and more vocal on social medias, its their arguments that you saw and their anger that you heard. And because no one is immune to far right ideology, its this anger that you took and interiorized and made your own.

In short, the problem is not that we took over social media with our ideology, the problem is that you didn't care to understand our ideas and let yourself get tainted by far right ideologies. So its logical that today, as a self called "liberal", all you are doing is trolling with far right arguments and arguments in favor of the far right.

The liberal, because of its lack of political compass, is doomed to fall into conservatism.

We can talk all day but you wont listen, and some things I would say I dunno might get me banned, if you want we can disccuss in DMs
Or you can just answer me and tell me what is so harmfull in my vision and why. The problem is, to do that, you would be obligated to say that far right/toxic ideas are ideas that needs to be respected in the political debate (something that I'm opposed to). Which would make you a far right enabler.

Quite the conundrum indeed..
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
Media plateform are at the hands of liberals (Meta/Old Twitter) or the far/right (Current Twitter). The reason you think we are present a lot is not because we are. Its because our ideas are making the far right shiver. Those people being in majority and more vocal on social medias, its their arguments that you saw and their anger that you heard. And because no one is immune to far right ideology, its this anger that you took and interiorized and made your own.

In short, the problem is not that we took over social media with our ideology, the problem is that you didn't care to understand our ideas and let yourself get tainted by far right ideologies. So its logical that today, as a self called "liberal", all you are doing is trolling with far right arguments and arguments in favor of the far right.

The liberal, because of its lack of political compass, is doomed to fall into conservatism.


Or you can just answer me and tell me what is so harmfull in my vision and why. The problem is, to do that, you would be obligated to say that far right/toxic ideas are ideas that needs to be respected in the political debate (something that I'm opposed to). Which would make you a far right enabler.

Quite the conundrum indeed..
No , its becouse Im under constant watch , I mentioned that I believe transgenderism should be treated in mental hospitals and im threatened with ban for it. So I dunno what am I even allowed to say, so I better not say anything at all. for example what you call islamophobia and shit ? do you look into countries that accept illegal immigrants ? what they do there, do you talk to people and see what makes them angry and mad ? its not OK to say that migrants should be veted and not accepted all as is. becouse cultures differ. way of life differs. Yo8u want a global world and that is simply not possible
 
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