Controversial General Political Discussion

Zolo

Zolo

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Bob74h said:
Liberalism is the same shit as leftism


Same beliefs and everything


If you mean classical liberals yea then ill agree classical liberals are different to leftists



But the modern/progressive liberals are the exact same as leftists
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george carlis is what I call classical liberal
 
Logiko

Logiko

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Zolo said:
In like when ? 500 years from now or 1000 ?
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More like a few years.
When seas will rise, well lands will dry, when crops will freeze ... it will be too late to say that you understand the problem.

Bob74h said:
Liberalism is the same shit as leftism
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Again, you are proving that you don't understand neither liberalism or leftism.

You are again confusing progressism that liberals can permit with the liberal status and values of those people.

Nowhere in the world are liberals and leftism the same things. Not even in the US where liberals are more progressive. In fact the US is a good example of that. Liberal like Biden have no problem working with far right politics like the Israelian gov while leftist are denouncing this.

Again progressism =/ liberalism. You confusionnism won't work here.
 
Zolo

Zolo

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Logiko said:
More like a few years.
When seas will rise, well lands will dry, when crops will freeze ... it will be too late to say that you understand the problem.


Again, you are proving that you don't understand neither liberalism or leftism.

You are again confusing progressism that liberals can permit with the liberal status and values of those people.

Nowhere in the world are liberals and leftism the same things. Not even in the US where liberals are more progressive. In fact the US is a good example of that. Liberal like Biden have no problem working with far right politics like the Israelian gov while leftist are denouncing this.

Again progressism =/ liberalism. You confusionnism won't work here.
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fear mongering
 
Roo

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Bob74h said:
Liberalism is the same shit as leftism


Same beliefs and everything


If you mean classical liberals yea then ill agree classical liberals are different to leftists



But the modern/progressive liberals are the exact same as leftists
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???

While there’s an overlap( liberalism is the basis for leftism) to say it’s the same is ignoring the huge disagreements when it comes to privatization and some social liberties
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Gaimon The Pirate said:
Saing that immigration doesn't damage the poors is top tier cringe and mental retardation.
Immigrants, specially with littlw skills, only allow for cheaper work in the benefit of the rich.
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Immigration does more good to an economy than bad. This is just a right wing myth
 
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NAMELESS

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Roo said:
???

While there’s an overlap( liberalism is the basis for leftism) to say it’s the same is ignoring the huge disagreements when it comes to privatization and some social liberties
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Immigration does more good to an economy than bad. This is just a right wing myth
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Not a myth,it only works in developed countries where people don't want to work menial jobs.In underdeveloped countries,it makes it harder for everyone to get a job.
 
NAMELESS

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Zolo said:
they are backwards people,. deindustralisation and immigration for them is good thing
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They should take a vacation in these countries migrants come from and see who they are welcoming into their lands.
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Logiko said:
:lawsigh:
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Work is a capitalist exploration,right?The government should pay all of our bills.
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Bob74h said:
Liberalism is the same shit as leftism


Same beliefs and everything


If you mean classical liberals yea then ill agree classical liberals are different to leftists



But the modern/progressive liberals are the exact same as leftists
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Welcome back,dude.I thought you got permaed.
 
Zolo

Zolo

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NAMELESS said:
They should take a vacation in these countries migrants come from and see who they are welcoming into their lands.
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Work is a capitalist exploration,right?The government should pay all of our bills.
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Welcome back,dude.I thought you got permaed.
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they dont have time to look into that becouse climate change
 
NAMELESS

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Logiko said:
Which is normal, far right ideologies like transphobia should not be accepted.



Let me give you the example of France. If we listen to mainstream liberals and far right medias, immigration is a real problem for french people and what actually make them angry. The reality is different, polls were made and the reality is that immigration is not even a priority for us. What we want is better healthcare, better purchasing power, better education, better revenues, better infrastructures.

You see, by allowing the far right to speak, medias in general are letting the far right dominate the debate. When in reality, people don't want the far right. People are not mad at immigration as much as you think they are. it works for France, but its the same in the USA.

As for your comment on the difference of culture. You should read on the way culture blends and mix. Its okay to want to conserve our culture, its not okay to do it by rejecting people or other people's culture. Culture is something that dies if not nourrished enough. You are currently advocating for a world of death cultures. I'm advocating for a world were culture will thrive by nourrishing each others.

So no, immigration is not and has never been a problem
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I didn't know phobias were ideologies.Thanks professor c4n.
 
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