Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bob74h]

By denying proven scientific data about the oppression of women and the presence of a system called patriarchy, you are denying to women the right of an equal treatment.

Therefore, you are antiwomen.

This denial prevent you from understanding the difference between women being oppressed and men having sometimes bad treatment.

You can blend reality however you want, as long as you will keep those scientific denial, you will be always called anti-women and anti feminist.

Women arent opressed


And sociology aint science



Your beliefs are just that beliefs and nothing more


There's barely one shred of truth to what you say


Christan idealogy has about the same merit which is none at all


It's all idealogical

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FIrst you need to understand that patriarchy is a theory, just like evolution.
And just like Evolution, you need to make clear by definition first, what the theoritical model is:

This is why, this article is important to begin with:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/social-sciences/patriarchy

your source and literally just proceeds to rant



''Attributes seen as “feminine” or pertaining to women are undervalued''


says who

source??

reason???



this can be applied to like every line in your article


another example


''Patriarchal relations structure both the private and public spheres, ensuring that men dominate both''


like your article just says this shit assuming you agree with it



it makes bold claims and backs up none of it



the shit, you are citing is just political theory



there's little evidence in these sources of yours

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Bob said it all.
Also, if it was such an objective fact, you wouldn't need thousands of words and also not providing who peer reviews fhese "studies" and who sponsor them, not to begin with how fraudulent the social sciences are, and this is an objective fact.
In the end, you are a furry and equivalent of a flat earther.
Literally the example of what no pussy does to a mf.

 

[Logiko]

And sociology aint science

Go say that to scientists who are sociologists I'm sure you won't get the same treatment as a flat earther.

Sociology is a discipline of science just like archeology or history are one. If you want to stay ignorant, be ignorant, but that won't be because of me.

There's barely one shred of truth to what you say

Those were literal data and scientific peer reviewed articles. We don't come closer to real statements.

It's all idealogical

Let be reminded that I gave more than 15 scientific articles/data reports that are clear and or peer reviewed and your only reply was "sociology is not a science". I think I'm not the one who is being ideological here. Its time for you to open your eyes in front of your unwillingness to learn something new.

''Attributes seen as “feminine” or pertaining to women are undervalued''


says who

source??

reason???

Say other research Einstein. I can't find it all for you, search and learn.

this can be applied to like every line in your article

Are you serously saying that you know better than an actual researcher how to write science here ? You know that those article were peer reviewed and published in actual renawnedjournals, right ? Are you questionning the legitimacy of those researcher on the basis that you are not agreeing with some sentences ?

The more I read you, the more I read a a science denier here.

''Patriarchal relations structure both the private and public spheres, ensuring that men dominate both''

THis specifical article was a set of definition for you to understand what patriarchy was through the lens of diverses synthetization of the term by researcher and sociologist. Those are the scientific abbreviations and conclusions BY DIFFERENT RESEARCHERS of what patriarchy can be defined as, for you to have an objective overview of what patriarchy is defined as in researchs. Those are not the data per say, you need to find the actual research as I did in the following to understand those points.

Also, if it was such an objective fact, you wouldn't need thousands of words and also not providing who peer reviews fhese "studies" and who sponsor them

I can't simply because I don't have an access to those research. But you have access to the journals where those studies were published and by who. You also have awknoledgment and citations. You should know that science research access is not free and should be glad that I can already do that.

All the articles and paper linked are either clear relevant data reports or peer reviewed and published articles of prestigious journal about the topics and I specifically avoided articles that would help me better published on smaller scales. This is not scratch science, this is the real deal

And like I said, this is just but the tip of the iceberg. Sociology is a science and you have all the tools to actually contact or read renowned sociologists (I avoided quoting Books and essay but they are just as important) Read some Bourdieu (one of the most famous sociologist in France) for example. You might undestand one thing or two.

You two just proved me that you don't care about science. You only care about science facts as long as they go with your vision, but as long as this vision gets challenged suddenly "sociology is not a science" anymore and I'm "the ideologist". When in reality, thousands of researchers over the world are burning their lives away to make great discoveries about social structures.

Its time for you guys to WAKE UP from this science denyism/semi complotist, its not too late.

But you are too proud to accept that, are you ?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Go say that to scientists who are sociologists I'm sure you won't get the same treatment as a flat earther.

Sociology is a discipline of science just like archeology or history are one. If you want to stay ignorant, be ignorant, but that won't be because of me.



Those were literal data and scientific peer reviewed articles. We don't come closer to real statements.



Let be reminded that I gave more than 15 scientific articles/data reports that are clear and or peer reviewed and your only reply was "sociology is not a science". I think I'm not the one who is being ideological here. Its time for you to open your eyes in front of your unwillingness to learn something new.



Say other research Einstein. I can't find it all for you, search and learn.


Are you serously saying that you know better than an actual researcher how to write science here ? You know that those article were peer reviewed and published in actual renawnedjournals, right ? Are you questionning the legitimacy of those researcher on the basis that you are not agreeing with some sentences ?

The more I read you, the more I read a a science denier here.


THis specifical article was a set of definition for you to understand what patriarchy was through the lens of diverses synthetization of the term by researcher and sociologist. Those are the scientific abbreviations and conclusions BY DIFFERENT RESEARCHERS of what patriarchy can be defined as, for you to have an objective overview of what patriarchy is defined as in researchs. Those are not the data per say, you need to find the actual research as I did in the following to understand those points.



I can't simply because I don't have an access to those research. But you have access to the journals where those studies were published and by who. You also have awknoledgment and citations. You should know that science research access is not free and should be glad that I can already do that.

All the articles and paper linked are either clear relevant data reports or peer reviewed and published articles of prestigious journal about the topics and I specifically avoided articles that would help me better published on smaller scales. This is not scratch science, this is the real deal

And like I said, this is just but the tip of the iceberg. Sociology is a science and you have all the tools to actually contact or read renowned sociologists (I avoided quoting Books and essay but they are just as important) Read some Bourdieu (one of the most famous sociologist in France) for example. You might undestand one thing or two.

You two just proved me that you don't care about science. You only care about science facts as long as they go with your vision, but as long as this vision gets challenged suddenly "sociology is not a science" anymore and I'm "the ideologist". When in reality, thousands of researchers over the world are burning their lives away to make great discoveries about social structures.

Its time for you guys to WAKE UP from this science denyism/semi complotist, its not too late.

But you are too proud to accept that, are you ?

I care for fact when they are not spouted by crazy furry that created a persona to try and repress their fetishes.
Literally what no pussy does to a mf.
Touch grass

 

[NAMELESS]

Bob said it all.
Also, if it was such an objective fact, you wouldn't need thousands of words and also not providing who peer reviews fhese "studies" and who sponsor them, not to begin with how fraudulent the social sciences are, and this is an objective fact.
In the end, you are a furry and equivalent of a flat earther.
Literally the example of what no pussy does to a mf.

I care for fact when they are not spouted by crazy furry that created a persona to try and repress their fetishes.
Literally what no pussy does to a mf.
Touch grass

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By denying proven scientific data about the oppression of women and the presence of a system called patriarchy, you are denying to women the right of an equal treatment.

Therefore, you are antiwomen.

This denial prevent you from understanding the difference between women being oppressed and men having sometimes bad treatment.

You can blend reality however you want, as long as you will keep those scientific denial, you will be always called anti-women and anti feminist.

Women have never been this powerful.In fact,they need a nerf.If some random women falsely accuses me of harassing,beating or raping her.I'm fucked even before things are investigated.

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Women arent opressed


And sociology aint science



Your beliefs are just that beliefs and nothing more


There's barely one shred of truth to what you say


Christan idealogy has about the same merit which is none at all


It's all idealogical

Post automatically merged: Dec 23, 2023

your source and literally just proceeds to rant



''Attributes seen as “feminine” or pertaining to women are undervalued''


says who

source??

reason???



this can be applied to like every line in your article


another example


''Patriarchal relations structure both the private and public spheres, ensuring that men dominate both''


like your article just says this shit assuming you agree with it



it makes bold claims and backs up none of it



the shit, you are citing is just political theory



there's little evidence in these sources of yours

If it weren't for that comment on Christians i would have liked your comment. Study about the prophecies that have been fulfilled,apparitions of Fatima,wine that turns into blood,Eucharistic bread that turn into flesh and other such miracles.Religion=/=Ideology.Ignorant comment.

 

[Logiko]

I care for fact when they are not spouted by crazy furry that created a persona to try and repress their fetishes.
Literally what no pussy does to a mf.
Touch grass

Beyond toxicity and lies, do you really have something interesting to say ?

Women have never been this powerful.In fact,they need a nerf.If some random women falsely accuses me of harassing,beating or raping her.I'm fucked even before things are investigated.

Why would a woman risk social harrassment, public outrage just to falsely accuses me or you, or anyoneelse ? Your ignorance in front of the struggles that face women to be heard is staggering. Because what you might be interested is those guys who are accused, but the reality is that they don't face social backlash, in reality, the women who accuses them do.

In the reality of the real world mate, publicly accusing their sexual abusers/violent partner is synonymous of social suicide for women.

But since you only care about your little ego and the ego of men being accused (most of the times by multiple women), you don't see that.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Beyond toxicity and lies, do you really have something interesting to say ?



Why would a woman risk social harrassment, public outrage just to falsely accuses me or you, or anyoneelse ? Your ignorance in front of the struggles that face women to be heard is staggering. Because what you might be interested is those guys who are accused, but the reality is that they don't face social backlash, in reality, the women who accuses them do.

In the reality of the real world mate, publicly accusing their sexual abusers/violent partner is synonymous of social suicide for women.

But since you only care about your little ego and the ego of men being accused (most of the times by multiple women), you don't see that.

waiting for you to cry and report me, or waiting for you to hold the oath you have taken and leave this website.
But you have no integrity or honesty, so I will just laugh at you.

All of this and you're not getting the smallest atomic size crumb of pussy.

 

[NAMELESS]

Beyond toxicity and lies, do you really have something interesting to say ?



Why would a woman risk social harrassment, public outrage just to falsely accuses me or you, or anyoneelse ? Your ignorance in front of the struggles that face women to be heard is staggering. Because what you might be interested is those guys who are accused, but the reality is that they don't face social backlash, in reality, the women who accuses them do.

In the reality of the real world mate, publicly accusing their sexual abusers/violent partner is synonymous of social suicide for women.

But since you only care about your little ego and the ego of men being accused (most of the times by multiple women), you don't see that.

*White Knight detected*
"Women can't do no harm.They are all saints."
Typical virgin mindset.Social suicide?Most women that do this get away with it.Wake up to reality,fucking Peter Pan.

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@Bob74h found a good read for you:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/ideology-society/The-philosophical-context

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waiting for you to cry and report me, or waiting for you to hold the oath you have taken and leave this website.
But you have no integrity or honesty, so I will just laugh at you.

All of this and you're not getting the smallest atomic size crumb of pussy.

Did he say he was leaving?It would the best for him to at least drop this thread.I should be doing the same,but its like crack to me.

 

[Logiko]

waiting for you to cry and report me, or waiting for you to hold the oath you have taken and leave this website.

Why would I report nonsence ?

Most women that do this get away with it

I'm sure you have statistics when you are affirming such a thing. Sadly you don't. You are just inventing, just because you are somewhat afraid that women one day accuse you. But why are you so afraid anyway ? Do you feel like your behavior could be interpreted as something unlawfull ? Maybe you should stop then ?

*White Knight detected*
"Women can't do no harm.They are all saints."

"white knight", this term is used in our current societies by incel who denies the possibilities of men standing up against violences done to women. Somewhere down the line, a dumb guy thought to himself "I think that the best way to ridiculize women is also to ridiculize men who are their ally"... And it works. Look, you are taking that incel and far right rethoric for yourself now !

The reality is that - just like women - you see us as a threat. You can't stand men standing up for women's right because it reminds you that you are doing nothing for them, worse, that you are actually harming them by your discourses.

I may be a white knight, but you are an Orochi.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

*White Knight detected*
"Women can't do no harm.They are all saints."
Typical virgin mindset.Social suicide?Most women that do this get away with it.Wake up to reality,fucking Peter Pan.

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@Bob74h found a good read for you:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/ideology-society/The-philosophical-context

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Did he say he was leaving?It would the best for him to at least drop this thread.I should be doing the same,but its like crack to me.

The furry swore that he was to leave the forum if Carrot were not to join.
And here he is, breaking his non-existant word :)
After thousands of delusional furry fantasies, after parading his knowledge about story telling, he failed to even understand a children's manga.

 

[NAMELESS]

Why would I report nonsence ?


I'm sure you have statistics when you are affirming such a thing. Sadly you don't. You are just inventing, just because you are somewhat afraid that women one day accuse you. But why are you so afraid anyway ? Do you feel like your behavior could be interpreted as something unlawfull ? Maybe you should stop then ?



"white knight", this term is used in our current societies by incel who denies the possibilities of men standing up against violences done to women. Somewhere down the line, a dumb guy thought to himself "I think that the best way to ridiculize women is also to ridiculize men who are their ally"... And it works. Look, you are taking that incel and far right rethoric for yourself now !

The reality is that - just like women - you see us as a threat. You can't stand men standing up for women's right because it reminds you that you are doing nothing for them, worse, that you are actually harming them by your discourses.

I may be a white knight, but you are an Orochi.

You will find no statistics about this easily because it isn't good for the feminist agenda.Just go your local police department and bring up this subject.
White Knight isn't used by Incels,its used against INCELS that think they will get attention from woman by licking their shoes.

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Why would I report nonsence ?


I'm sure you have statistics when you are affirming such a thing. Sadly you don't. You are just inventing, just because you are somewhat afraid that women one day accuse you. But why are you so afraid anyway ? Do you feel like your behavior could be interpreted as something unlawfull ? Maybe you should stop then ?



"white knight", this term is used in our current societies by incel who denies the possibilities of men standing up against violences done to women. Somewhere down the line, a dumb guy thought to himself "I think that the best way to ridiculize women is also to ridiculize men who are their ally"... And it works. Look, you are taking that incel and far right rethoric for yourself now !

The reality is that - just like women - you see us as a threat. You can't stand men standing up for women's right because it reminds you that you are doing nothing for them, worse, that you are actually harming them by your discourses.

I may be a white knight, but you are an Orochi.

"Orochi"
wtf does that even mean?

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The furry swore that he was to leave the forum if Carrot were not to join.
And here he is, breaking his non-existant word :)
After thousands of delusional furry fantasies, after parading his knowledge about story telling, he failed to even understand a children's manga.

C4N needs to spend less time online.The only way he gets over this is by finding hobbies that don't involve a computer.

 

[Bob74h]

white knight", this term is used in our current societies by incel who denies the possibilities of men standing up against violences done to women. Somewhere down the line, a dumb guy thought to himself "I think that the best way to ridiculize women is also to ridiculize men who are their ally"... And it works. Look, you are taking that incel and far right rethoric for yourself now !

What violence are men here endorsing???


What person went yea to bring down women, we attack men



You just saying random shit without regard for reason or logic

 

[NAMELESS]

What violence are men here endorsing???


What person went yea to bring down women, we attack men



You just saying random shit without regard for reason or logic

He has a caricature of people in his head and he sees shit where there isn't any.Dude,answer pretty normal comments with the craziest rants.C4N is paranoid.

 

[Logiko]

The furry swore that he was to leave the forum if Carrot were not to join.

Actually I only said that I might leave if there was no political section created. Tac told me to wait, I waited. Simple :)

You will find no statistics about this easily because it isn't good for the feminist agenda

Or maybe because women who accuse blindly face social targetting ? Check on twitter and look toward accusation of rape and who faces the harrassment and the denial, the women or the perpetuators ?

Just go your local police department and bring up this subject.

Funny you say that

https://reliefweb.int/report/world/...eport-incidents-domestic-violence-fragile-and

And this is just for fragile country, in reality in occident its the same problem.

The question is... how can you expect violence and abuses to be reported correctly when there is a large number of cases inside of the Police itself ?

https://scholarworks.bgsu.edu/crim_just_pub/6/

In France for example, a recent documentary showed that women where facing a double jeopardy. By their (policement) abuser AND by the institution that protect those abusers (the police office) and WORSE even put those abuser in places where they receive complaint of victim of abuse.
https://www.france.tv/france-2/comp...gales-quand-l-agresseur-porte-l-uniforme.html

And this is not just in France or USA, this is a global phenomenon.
https://www.refworld.org/docid/403dd1e5c.html

That's the reality for women mate. The reality that you absolutely refuse to see because of your pride.

And I didn't even speak about the thousand charges being dropped because of the lack of evidences (yeah.. sometimes abuse and violences doesn't leave evidences)

What violence are men here endorsing???

THe violence against women. By denying the fact that women are being abused because of their gender mostly by men and by denying the fact that women face struggles to report those abuses and violences, you are ENDORSING those violences because you are permitting perpetuators to continue without consequences.

By denying the existence of a systemic issues regarding violence done to women and the impossibility of women being heard... You guys are the allies of violent men even if you deny it.

 

[NAMELESS]

Actually I only said that I might leave if there was no political section created. Tac told me to wait, I waited. Simple :)



Or maybe because women who accuse blindly face social targetting ? Check on twitter and look toward accusation of rape and who faces the harrassment and the denial, the women or the perpetuators ?



Funny you say that

https://reliefweb.int/report/world/...eport-incidents-domestic-violence-fragile-and

And this is just for fragile country, in reality in occident its the same problem.

The question is... how can you expect violence and abuses to be reported correctly when there is a large number of cases inside of the Police itself ?

https://scholarworks.bgsu.edu/crim_just_pub/6/

In France for example, a recent documentary showed that women where facing a double jeopardy. By their abuser AND by the institution that protect those abusers and WORSE even put those abuser in places where they receive complaint of victim of abuse.
https://www.france.tv/france-2/comp...gales-quand-l-agresseur-porte-l-uniforme.html

And this is not just in France or USA, this is a global phenomenon.
https://www.refworld.org/docid/403dd1e5c.html

That's the reality for women mate. The reality that you absolutely refuse to see because of your pride.

And I didn't even speak about the thousand charges being dropped because of the lack of evidences (yeah.. sometimes abuse and violences doesn't leave evidences)



THe violence against women. By denying the fact that women are being abused because of their gender mostly by men and by denying the fact that women face struggles to report those abuses and violences, you are ENDORSING those violences because you are permitting perpetuators to continue without consequences.

By denying the existence of a systemic issues regarding violence done to women and the impossibility of women being heard... You guys are the allies of violent men even if you deny it.

i'm not reading all that bullshit.I got prepare stuff for Christmas .bye

 

[Logiko]

i'm not reading all that bullshit.I got prepare stuff for Christmas .bye

As expected

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

yo yo yo what's the current topic?

 

[Logiko]

yo yo yo what's the current topic?

The denial of violences against women.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

The denial of violences against women.

I highly doubt anyone is actually doing that.

 

[Logiko]

I highly doubt anyone is actually doing that.

The three people I discussed with in the last posts are