Controversial The importance of Egghead Island Arc

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#1
This may be the most important Arc we've had since the beginning of the time skip and the best arc to began the final saga on

Let's look at the facts

1- Elements of the Arc are the same has other Arcs
A. Sabaody- the same players that was on sabaody that defeated strawhats are involved in this Arc
B- Kuma and Doffys backstories are mirror images of each other
C- Recent chapter shows experimentation was done on Ginny and likely others as well just like it was revealed on punk hazard Ceaser experimented on children
D. Vegapunk was first mentioned by name by koby in chapter 433 according to a quick Google search the very Arc Vegapunk is introduced officially Koby is captured and rescued

2. It's sets up a legitimate reason for Luffy and Dragon to meet face to face especially if Dragon decides to come to egghead
A. Strawhats + Revolutionary team up will be an incident that could be considered world shaking
B. Strawhats can kick saturn and marines off with Rev back up and claim it has strawhat official base of operations

3. Revealed the true power of the world government for years people debated would the final villain be black beard or Akainu because of their involvement in Aces death and the grief it caused Luffy but after the introduction of imu and the fact the gorosei are all some kind of demons tells us they are rhe true final antagonist black beard and Akainu are just more pebbles on the beach.

4. It Revealed lore and answered age old questions like why did Dragon tell kuma about luffy and not Iva, turns out kuma figured it out, why was bonney upset when watching marine ford from a distance at the time many thought it was because of a connection to Ace but turns out she had a strong connection to Kuma it also gave insight on how devil fruits are made and how vegapunk is able to replicate its powers

With all that was revealed, all the connections, all the ways it relates to other Arcs is why I believe this is bar none one of the best Arcs in one piece

If I didn't have nostalgic bias for arlong Park egg head just may be my favorite but that's why I believe it's the most important Arc
 
#2
I do not think that the revs will appear at Egghead, since I did not see them heading towards the island. However, I can assure you that we have not reached the climax of the arc, yet. Oda is hiding something big from us (this is why he inserted the time-skip).
 
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#3
It's sets up a legitimate reason for Luffy and Dragon to meet face to face especially if Dragon decides to come to egghead
Dragon let way clear he is not intend to meet Luffy since it would make him weaker.
 

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#4
Dragon let way clear he is not intend to meet Luffy since it would make him weaker.
How would dragon meeting luffy make him weaker?
 
#5
This may be the most important Arc we've had since the beginning of the time skip and the best arc to began the final saga on

Let's look at the facts

1- Elements of the Arc are the same has other Arcs
A. Sabaody- the same players that was on sabaody that defeated strawhats are involved in this Arc
B- Kuma and Doffys backstories are mirror images of each other
C- Recent chapter shows experimentation was done on Ginny and likely others as well just like it was revealed on punk hazard Ceaser experimented on children
D. Vegapunk was first mentioned by name by koby in chapter 433 according to a quick Google search the very Arc Vegapunk is introduced officially Koby is captured and rescued

2. It's sets up a legitimate reason for Luffy and Dragon to meet face to face especially if Dragon decides to come to egghead
A. Strawhats + Revolutionary team up will be an incident that could be considered world shaking
B. Strawhats can kick saturn and marines off with Rev back up and claim it has strawhat official base of operations

3. Revealed the true power of the world government for years people debated would the final villain be black beard or Akainu because of their involvement in Aces death and the grief it caused Luffy but after the introduction of imu and the fact the gorosei are all some kind of demons tells us they are rhe true final antagonist black beard and Akainu are just more pebbles on the beach.

4. It Revealed lore and answered age old questions like why did Dragon tell kuma about luffy and not Iva, turns out kuma figured it out, why was bonney upset when watching marine ford from a distance at the time many thought it was because of a connection to Ace but turns out she had a strong connection to Kuma it also gave insight on how devil fruits are made and how vegapunk is able to replicate its powers

With all that was revealed, all the connections, all the ways it relates to other Arcs is why I believe this is bar none one of the best Arcs in one piece

If I didn't have nostalgic bias for arlong Park egg head just may be my favorite but that's why I believe it's the most important Arc
I agree that Egghead's been excellent so far but I disagree with you on point #3

To me it looks like they're setting up the final war to be a giant free-for-all between a ton of different factions rather than just being about the Strawhats fighting the World Government. Blackbeard and Akainu are both going to be major players in that battle royale. I wouldn't call either of them pebbles on the beach.
 

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#6
I do not think that the revs will appear at Egghead, since I did not see them heading towards the island. However, I can assure you that we have not reached the climax of the arc, yet. Oda is hiding something big from us (this is why he inserted the time-skip).
True but dragon was asking about kuma in latest chapter wondering where he could of gone they thought marijose and if they're following and tracking kuma after marijose next stop is egghead
 

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#8
It getting out that he had a son would make him weaker cause he'd die protecting luffy but now Luffy is strong enough to protect himself it's already public knowledge they're related
 
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#9
It getting out that he had a son would make him weaker cause he'd die protecting luffy but now Luffy is strong enough to protect himself it's already public knowledge they're related
Yet he didn't went after him at all unlike at Longuetown to protect him.

Doesn't matter if Luffy is strong enough or not. Parents will always want to protect their childs even when they are old and weak while their child are young and strong.
 
#10
True but dragon was asking about kuma in latest chapter wondering where he could of gone they thought marijose and if they're following and tracking kuma after marijose next stop is egghead
To me, this felt like Oda tried to impliment a clean cut for the revs in this matter: Something that lets us know that Dragon is still thinking about Kuma and maybe something that lets us know that the revs are still there, planning and preparing for future steps. Do you know, what I mean?
 
#11
Egghead is important in showing that the mess that was Wano was just a mistake, an unfortunate lapse from Oda.

Heโ€™s showing that he still has some mojo so itโ€™s worth sticking around.
 
#13
Egghead is important in showing that the mess that was Wano was just a mistake, an unfortunate lapse from Oda.

Heโ€™s showing that he still has some mojo so itโ€™s worth sticking around.
Disagree.

Egghead is PTSD: Seraphim (Ninpo Kuchiyose Edo Tensei), Green Blood (Hashirama cells). Plus Imu (Kaguya), Joyboy (reincarnation of Ashura and Indra), Nika (Nine-Tails Chakra Mode).

We're hitting Naruto Shippuden levels of convoluted and retarded. Oda is throwing the most crazy ideas into the story and I don't see how this will end well.
 
#14
This arch is not important, because once Kuma explodes everyone will escape... the important one is Elbaf ...
Honestly, Iโ€™m starting to doubt that Oda will kill Kuma (even though the last flashback chapter seems to heavily imply it.

Having Kuma lose a leg and a chunk of his head seemed to guarantee that heโ€™s finishedโ€ฆbut then Oda drew him like nothing happened.
He may have just included the self-destruct as a feint.
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Disagree.

Egghead is PTSD: Seraphim (Ninpo Kuchiyose Edo Tensei), Green Blood (Hashirama cells). Plus Imu (Kaguya), Joyboy (reincarnation of Ashura and Indra), Nika (Nine-Tails Chakra Mode).

We're hitting Naruto Shippuden levels of convoluted and retarded. Oda is throwing the most crazy ideas into the story and I don't see how this will end well.
Imu canโ€™t be a Kaguya when they were introduced years before the final saga, and the groundwork laid even earlier than that.

I count Nika as a Wano problem. Seraphim/green blood makes sense with SSG mentioned in Reverie & Vegapunk/cloning since Sabaody.
The only issue I see with them is the Lunarian aspect.
 
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Imo egghead arc is the start of the downfall of the World Government:
1. A loss of an admiral (Kizaru)
2. A loss of a gorosei (Saturn)
3. A loss of a legend (Garp)
4. A shift in the controller of the replacement for one of the great powers (Lafitte stealing the seraphim)
5. A shift of a major military resource (Caribou stealing the Mother Flame Factory)
6. A shift in technological knowledge (Punk Records being taken from the WG as well)
7. Marines at their all time weakest (Cross Guild turning the world against them using money)

All of this causes desperation. Which will lead to the rest of the Marine Legenda (Sengoku and Tsuru) to join Garp in losing to the BB Pirates, the rest of the Marine Admirals (Fuji and Ryo) losing to Cross Guild in an attempt to stop having bounty hunters killing marines, the Gorosei Holy Knights and Sakazuki to fall trying to stop Luffys growth and avenge Saturn.

Thus setting the world up for what Whitebeard warned the marines of โ€œThe world flipping on its headโ€ where Cross Guild will take over the world which will put the rulers of the under world of the OP verse as the new rulers of the over world literally turning it on its head.

Egghead truly is the start of the finality of OP
 
#16
I agree that Egghead's been excellent so far but I disagree with you on point #3

To me it looks like they're setting up the final war to be a giant free-for-all between a ton of different factions rather than just being about the Strawhats fighting the World Government. Blackbeard and Akainu are both going to be major players in that battle royale. I wouldn't call either of them pebbles on the beach.
Imho, its more complicated than this. I think the WG is still the final echelon of power in the series. The issue is similar to any arc antagonist, you learn about the bad things they did in the past, then the reader feels motivation to see them defeated. We got this with Kaido via Oden, and now Saturn via Kuma (which may lead to his downfall here but Im not concrete on that until the arc progresses)

The issue with Imu is his "flashback" would inherently be the void century, which means Luffy needs to be PK to onow about it and why the narrative would see him defeated. This also would then suggest that Blackbeard and Shanks would have to lose beforehand, since they are the final roadblocks to PK.

I would say that Akainu be involved there as well, because its becoming increasingly clear that the Marines and WG are just entirely separate entities and it wouldnt surprise me that Akainu actually tries to stop the Yonko from finding OP or even tries to lay claim to it to take down the WG himself for his own justice.

Tldr:

- Egghead is Kizaru/Saturn
- Elbaf/Lodestar/LT are either a sequential conflict with Akainu, Shanks and Blackbeard or all 3 depending on how the conflict involves them.
- Final War is the actual fight against Imu.

Thats how I personally see it
 
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