I believe life experiences shape the direction of our politics but internet helps to open our eyes to different life experiences.
We can never have an opinion about what is going on on the other side of the world based on our life experience if we never go there. Here is where internet comes.
I find it funny how the term Liberal turn into a negative term for the right and conservatives like socialism did.
When someone calls me or someone else a liberal, I'm like "Which one?" Cause there's modern liberalism, classical liberalism, and neoliberalism, making liberalism in general an umbrella term like socialism.
Liberalism in general is freedom of speech, press and religion, equality under the law, separation of religion and state, divided government and political parties(along with being voted by the people) and free markets. Neoliberalism for example focuses on the freedom of trade, strengthening of private sector with limited government, and globalization.
More like American liberalism don’t club this up European liberalism you guys are just too far from that .
Hillary and Joe would be classic right wingers to outsiders . Tbh I don’t really see difference between Biden and Trump except Donnie has ugly mouth and Joe is too old to talk .
Being nazist is essentially being anti-jew. Hamas is essentially this despite being a bunch of raper, assassins, homophopics etc. Of course you don't care about this little details.
I find it funny how the term Liberal turn into a negative term for the right and conservatives like socialism did.
When someone calls me or someone else a liberal, I'm like "Which one?" Cause there's modern liberalism, classical liberalism, and neoliberalism, making liberalism in general an umbrella term like socialism.
Liberalism in general is freedom of speech, press and religion, equality under the law, separation of religion and state, divided government and political parties(along with being voted by the people) and free markets. Neoliberalism for example focuses on the freedom of trade, strengthening of private sector with limited government, and globalization.
That's not what a nazi is. Nazism is an ideology, its fascism. Its not only about being anti-jew. The hamas is not against jew, its against Israel and its actions.
You are speaking about those who commited the war crime on october 7th, its but a part of the organization. Hamas is constituated mostly by young resistant that are just angry against the crimes of Israel.
The problem is that you don't care about the little details, so in your hegemonic attack of the resistance in Palestine, you are completely invisibilizing people who are actually fighting because they have good reason to do so.
The two problems with Hamas is that they have a deep foundamentalist base and they did a war crime, but beside that, they are like any resistance movements.
More like American liberalism don’t club this up European liberalism you guys are just too far from that .
Hillary and Joe would be classic right wingers to outsiders . Tbh I don’t really see difference between Biden and Trump except Donnie has ugly mouth and Joe is too old to talk .
America is a corporate bureaucracy. Any system or ideology that goes against the status quo gets their definitions altered and demonized. Even America's biggest boogeyman, Communism, isn't bad(not that I support a communist system).
None, its the facts. The hamas is an political organization that is aimed to liberate Palestine through radical mesure. Its antisionist but not anti-jew. You are the dishonest one here mate.
None, its the facts. The hamas is an political organization that is aimed to liberate Palestine through radical mesure. Its antisionist but not anti-jew. You are the dishonest one here mate.
But they have also done pretty heinous stuff, including sexually assaulting Israelis.
This isn’t to say they can’t be reasoned with, however. They do probably hate Jews, but it’s only because of how they’ve been treated.
They are ultimately still people and want the same things all people want. They don’t want to see their people die or their homes destroyed. They only engage in terrorism because they feel as if they have no other option. Israel refuses to give them freedom. Israel refuses to treat them as equals. They’d rather go out as martyrs than suffer the humiliation of occupation.
Being nazist is essentially being anti-jew. Hamas is essentially this despite being a bunch of raper, assassins, homophopics etc. Of course you don't care about this little details.
None, its the facts. The hamas is an political organization that is aimed to liberate Palestine through radical mesure. Its antisionist but not anti-jew. You are the dishonest one here mate.
Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
The Democratic Party in general is right wing. We got 2 main right wing parties in America.
America is a corporate bureaucracy. Any system or ideology that goes against the status quo gets their definitions altered and demonized. Even America's biggest boogeyman, Communism, isn't bad(not that I support a communist system).
My parents lived in communist society I can tell you it’s mixed at least in America people can mock their leaders and meme about them . Can’t say same thing in Communist styled countries and Post soviet collapse it’s same you have no idea how many people would leave their shit hole life and live in America .
I mean America has flaws but you guys are doing right somewhere .
Son of a hamas co-founder who is an insider taöking about what motivates hamas, reinforcing exactly what i quoted above.
Obviously there are people that are anti-zionist without being anti-jew. Thats evidently not true for hamas and if anyone says otherwise, they are, as i said above, either extremely ignorant, naive or dishonest
This was the anciant charter from 1988 that was amended in 2017 and that, according to Jean-François Legrain an historian was never been considered by the movement as legally endowed with a binding reference status", and "does not appear, moreover, on its official website. - Source wiki
So you are giving me a chart that probably none of the partisan of the movement have knowledge about or even agree with.
This intellectual lazyness.
You should know that 1988 was 35 years ago and in 2023, half of gaza were below 20 years old. Those are young people that join by anger against israel, not by antisemitism (even if there are a some that does)
Not in Gaza. Gaza is a specific sociological situation. The hatred against sionism and Israel and potentially jews is not sourced into the same regular antisemetic views against jews that we can find in other region of the world, the reasons are the colonization and oppression of the palestinian people.
That's not what a nazi is. Nazism is an ideology, its fascism. Its not only about being anti-jew. The hamas is not against jew, its against Israel and its actions.
Logiko: "Hamas is not against jew"
Hamas:"The Jews are the most despicable and contemptible nation to crawl upon the face of the Earth, because they have displayed hostility to Allah."
"Allah will kill the Jews in the hell of the world to come, just like they killed the believers in the hell of this world."
"This is Islam, that was ahead of its time with regards to human rights in the treatment of prisoners, but our nation was tested by the cancerous lump, that is the Jews, in the heart of the Arab nation... Be certain that America is on its way to utter destruction, America is wallowing [in blood] today in Iraq and Afghanistan, America is defeated and Israel is defeated, and was defeated in Lebanon and Palestine... Make us victorious over the community of infidels... Allah, take the Jews and their allies, Allah, take the Americans and their allies... Allah, annihilate them completely and do not leave anyone of them."
"By God, we will not leave one Jew in Palestine. We will fight them with all the strength we have. This is our land, not the Jews..."
"The Jews: killed the prophets…slaughtered the innocent…imprisoned our pious... NO PEACE WITH THE MURDERERS."
"The Nazi Jews tried different methods..."
"Let everyone know that Hamas... is only against Jews and those twisted in their manner... it realizes the Jews' methods in trying to cause hostility and friction between people..."
"We should lend punches to the Jews wherever possible [to commemorate Muhammad's defeat of one of the Jewish tribes of Arabia]."
To be fair sometimes they thrown those lies. But if they really meant then they would be adressing them as Israelis not Jews.
"Hamas is not hostile to Jews because they are Jews. We are hostile to them because they occupied our land and expelled our people.... We did not say we want to throw the Jews in the sea or feed them to sharks. We just said that there is a land called occupied Palestine. It was burglarized and it needs to be returned to the Palestinian people."
You are speaking about those who commited the war crime on october 7th, its but a part of the organization. Hamas is constituated mostly by young resistant that are just angry against the crimes of Israel.
The problem is that you don't care about the little details, so in your hegemonic attack of the resistance in Palestine, you are completely invisibilizing people who are actually fighting because they have good reason to do so.
The two problems with Hamas is that they have a deep foundamentalist base and they did a war crime, but beside that, they are like any resistance movements.
When soldiers, police or whatever force of State commits crimes they are judged, sentenced and condened by it. Hamas does not does that. So don't try to act like Hamas isn't in favor of those crimes made at October 7th.
Hamas hideout is below hospitals.
What crimes of Israel? To prosper and make a peaceful and strong country where even Muslims can live in peace?
And then you talk like Hamas politcs of killing gay people, submitting woman as they were below man(barely human beings) and war crimes are nothing.
America is a corporate bureaucracy. Any system or ideology that goes against the status quo gets their definitions altered and demonized. Even America's biggest boogeyman, Communism, isn't bad(not that I support a communist system).
Logiko: "Hamas is not against jew"
Hamas:"The Jews are the most despicable and contemptible nation to crawl upon the face of the Earth, because they have displayed hostility to Allah."
"Allah will kill the Jews in the hell of the world to come, just like they killed the believers in the hell of this world."
"This is Islam, that was ahead of its time with regards to human rights in the treatment of prisoners, but our nation was tested by the cancerous lump, that is the Jews, in the heart of the Arab nation... Be certain that America is on its way to utter destruction, America is wallowing [in blood] today in Iraq and Afghanistan, America is defeated and Israel is defeated, and was defeated in Lebanon and Palestine... Make us victorious over the community of infidels... Allah, take the Jews and their allies, Allah, take the Americans and their allies... Allah, annihilate them completely and do not leave anyone of them."
"By God, we will not leave one Jew in Palestine. We will fight them with all the strength we have. This is our land, not the Jews..."
"The Jews: killed the prophets…slaughtered the innocent…imprisoned our pious... NO PEACE WITH THE MURDERERS."
"The Nazi Jews tried different methods..."
"Let everyone know that Hamas... is only against Jews and those twisted in their manner... it realizes the Jews' methods in trying to cause hostility and friction between people..."
"We should lend punches to the Jews wherever possible [to commemorate Muhammad's defeat of one of the Jewish tribes of Arabia]."
To be fair sometimes they thrown those lies. But if they really meant then they would be adressing them as Israelis not Jews.
"Hamas is not hostile to Jews because they are Jews. We are hostile to them because they occupied our land and expelled our people.... We did not say we want to throw the Jews in the sea or feed them to sharks. We just said that there is a land called occupied Palestine. It was burglarized and it needs to be returned to the Palestinian people."
When soldiers, police or whatever force of State commits crimes they are judged, sentenced and condened by it. Hamas does not does that. So don't try to act like Hamas isn't in favor of those crimes made at October 7th.
Hamas hideout is below hospitals.
What crimes of Israel? To prosper and make a peaceful and strong country where even Muslims can live in peace?
And then you talk like Hamas politcs of killing gay people, submitting woman as they were below man(barely human beings) and war crimes are nothing.
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Dude this has to do with people not the governament or anything.
Logiko: "Hamas is not against jew"
Hamas:"The Jews are the most despicable and contemptible nation to crawl upon the face of the Earth, because they have displayed hostility to Allah."
"Allah will kill the Jews in the hell of the world to come, just like they killed the believers in the hell of this world."
"This is Islam, that was ahead of its time with regards to human rights in the treatment of prisoners, but our nation was tested by the cancerous lump, that is the Jews, in the heart of the Arab nation... Be certain that America is on its way to utter destruction, America is wallowing [in blood] today in Iraq and Afghanistan, America is defeated and Israel is defeated, and was defeated in Lebanon and Palestine... Make us victorious over the community of infidels... Allah, take the Jews and their allies, Allah, take the Americans and their allies... Allah, annihilate them completely and do not leave anyone of them."
"By God, we will not leave one Jew in Palestine. We will fight them with all the strength we have. This is our land, not the Jews..."
"The Jews: killed the prophets…slaughtered the innocent…imprisoned our pious... NO PEACE WITH THE MURDERERS."
"The Nazi Jews tried different methods..."
"Let everyone know that Hamas... is only against Jews and those twisted in their manner... it realizes the Jews' methods in trying to cause hostility and friction between people..."
"We should lend punches to the Jews wherever possible [to commemorate Muhammad's defeat of one of the Jewish tribes of Arabia]."
To be fair sometimes they thrown those lies. But if they really meant then they would be adressing them as Israelis not Jews.
"Hamas is not hostile to Jews because they are Jews. We are hostile to them because they occupied our land and expelled our people.... We did not say we want to throw the Jews in the sea or feed them to sharks. We just said that there is a land called occupied Palestine. It was burglarized and it needs to be returned to the Palestinian people."
Agains, hamas its not its leaders, its the combattant + the representatives. What you gave me are some - granted antisemistic - words of SOME of the representatives.
This is not enough to say that Hamas is against jew. What you need to affirm that is an research collecting the vision of a majority of constituants of the Hamas movements (combattant + representatives), then you will be able to say if they are all antisemitic, because that's what you are doing fallaciously right now.
You are just regurgitating the propaganda of Israel and invisibilizing people who take the path of resistance just because they have no choice but to do so.
Then I'm waiting for the judgement of the state of Israel for genocide.
I'm waiting for the judgement of the state of ISrael for colonization and ethnical cleansing
I'm waiting for the judgement of the Israel gov and ISrael soldiers for multiple war crimes..
Let's wait for them to compare in front of justice just like the soldiers (ISraelian and hamas) who participated in the war crime of october 7th should
Do you want me to say that all Israelian soldiers and jews are supporting genocide right now ? Because that's the rethoric you are using to generalize all combattant of hamas.
Oh, a genocide apologizer.. who peculiar.
I won't discuss this with you. If you refuse to see the current massacre happening because of Israel's action then you are lost in humanity.
This is not enough to say that Hamas is against jew. What you need to affirm that is an research collecting the vision of a majority of constituants of the Hamas movements (combattant + representatives), then you will be able to say if they are all antisemitic, because that's what you are doing fallaciously right now.
You are just regurgitating the propaganda of Israel and invisibilizing people who take the path of resistance just because they have no choice but to do so.
Well but i have the founding document, shared statements of an insider to hamas, herrerra pulled plenty public statements and your best shot is "but that doesnt mean every single person is antisemitic" while not providing anything at all.
Get fucking real kid.
But at least i think you are just ignorant instead of dishonest
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