Using your fucked logic, this means every liberal media outlet does propaganda for Israel?!
Pretty much yeah.

Why don't you see a constant flow of journalist criticizing the involvement of western countries in favor of Israel ?
Why don't you see a constant flow of denounciation of the massacre that is currently happening ?
Why do you see a huge majority of interview of Israeli officials and very few of people involved on the palestinian side ?
Why do you always see the same narrative that "Israel is defending itself" ?

Because those things have no place in a liberal media supporting liberal interests and liberal interests are right now aligned with the interests of Israel. So all you will hear from liberal medias are Israel's interests.

:kayneshrug:

You will need to go on youtube to start hearing different types of narratives with differents interviews, different manners to speak about the conflict etc.


And you can look for it if you use it for argumentation. Why would i do your work?
I don't need the document to argument. You do. I only need the fact that it exist. So go search for it.


Right, its also a religious movement.

Hamas was elected btw
20 years ago. Meaning that some people that are fighting in Hamas weren't even born when it was elected. So this is a fallacious rethoric.

People in Gaza don't have a choice. Its either fight with the only movement there is or wait for death and oppression. Asking them to choose a lesser foundamentalist movement is simply dishonest.


you can report me or whatever but drop the topic
No, so I guess that you will have to ban me then.

This topic has everyplace here as long as everybody remains civil. There is absolutely no reason to drop it.

It's important to talk about it.
 

AL sama

Red Haired
This topic has everyplace here as long as everybody remains civil. There is absolutely no reason to drop it.
yeah that's why you're reporting others like crazy lol
It's important to talk about it.
its not at least not here

you're just gossiping and nothing more
No, so I guess that you will have to ban me then.
oh don't worry I'll ban any and everyone if I see a justified cause
 
yeah that's why you're reporting others like crazy lol
I'm only reporting those who break the civil limits. Those people are not the only ones talking about this subject.


its not at least not here

you're just gossiping and nothing more
Who are you to tell which informations are worthy ?


oh don't worry I'll ban any and everyone if I see a justified cause
Oh that I'm sure.

But as I demonstrated multiple times already, "a justified cause" is a subjective concept here.
 
Talking about politics on a One Piece forum has the same meaning than chasing pidgeons.
Nothing.
We are all in a forum about a children's manga.
Want to change the world, don't sit at your phone messaging, but go and spread words and do something real.
Talking about politics won't change them.
 
NO. If you want us to stop talking about this, then delete this thread. This topic as all its place here.

Talking about those crimes against humanity is a necessity to keep the awareness. Allthemore when they are not happening in one single place but in multiple place and multiple nations and when they are denied by the conservatives

There are absolutely NO reasons to prevent us from talking about that subject

Don't try to abuse your powers here.
Someone give this guy a twitter account
 
Talking about politics on a One Piece forum has the same meaning than chasing pidgeons.
Nothing.
We are all in a forum about a children's manga.
Want to change the world, don't sit at your phone messaging, but go and spread words and do something real.
Talking about politics won't change them.
Casually talking about politics can be fun

issue is that Logiko seems to be under the delusion that anything he says on an obscure anime forum is somehow meaningful
 
Yeah, of course it is fun to confront with people, and fill the empty spaces of our lives.
This is basically why I post here

I have to spend 40 hours a week at a desk job that while paying good, is tbh boring. Posting gives me a break from that.

I also like expressing political views here, as it is a space where I am anonymous and nothing I say has any consequence. As opposed to irl where saying the wrong thing could cause me to lose friends.
 
Talking about politics on a One Piece forum has the same meaning than chasing pidgeons.
Nothing.
We are all in a forum about a children's manga.
Want to change the world, don't sit at your phone messaging, but go and spread words and do something real.
Talking about politics won't change them.
Casually talking about politics can be fun

issue is that Logiko seems to be under the delusion that anything he says on an obscure anime forum is somehow meaningful
it is a space where I am anonymous and nothing I say has any consequence.


Then let's just say whatever !

Let's spread dissinformation
Let's talk sh*t about minorities
Let's denigrate people's convictions and beliefs
Let's spread complotist theories
Let's spread Incel rethoric
Let's talk ill about women
Let's denigrate other's countries
Let's spread anti

If this thread don't matter. Why let's not sh*t post to hell and back ?
Go for it, have fun ! What is stopping you ?

:kayneshrug:
 
Then let's just say whatever !

Let's spread dissinformation
Let's talk sh*t about minorities
Let's denigrate people's convictions and beliefs
Let's spread complotist theories
Let's spread Incel rethoric
Let's talk ill about women
Let's denigrate other's countries
Let's spread anti

If this thread don't matter. Why let's not sh*t post to hell and back ?
Go for it, have fun ! What is stopping you ?

:kayneshrug:
I don't have any of those things to do, but people should be free to do all of those, you absolute fascist.
Freedom of speech, no matter what.
 
Then let's just say whatever !

Let's spread dissinformation
Let's talk sh*t about minorities
Let's denigrate people's convictions and beliefs
Let's spread complotist theories
Let's spread Incel rethoric
Let's talk ill about women
Let's denigrate other's countries
Let's spread anti

If this thread don't matter. Why let's not sh*t post to hell and back ?
Go for it, have fun ! What is stopping you ?

:kayneshrug:
It’s not that that stuff is good

but I just don’t get why you spend so much time trying to argue against it.

I remember in this other thread this one guy posted legit antisemitic carnards about how Jews were behind all the bad things and whatnot.

I could get into an argument with him and report him. Or I could just treat it for what it is: the words of a baffoon.
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It’s like Shanks and Higuma tbh.

Why should I go around trying to whip up and educate every dumbass?
 

AL sama

Red Haired
I'm only reporting those who break the civil limits. Those people are not the only ones talking about this subject.
if you're gonna talk then you gotta be prepared to listen to others too
Who are you to tell which informations are worthy ?
if you were slightest bit rational you'd see why I said that
But as I demonstrated multiple times already, "a justified cause" is a subjective concept here.
sadly I m the mod not you
 

Rottkins

✯ ✧ 𝔾 𝕠 𝕕 𝕠 𝕗 𝕃 𝕚 𝕖 𝕤 ✧ ✯
You’re a trans woman, right?
Does that ever cause you any issues at work?

I know at least in America many states have very poor laws protecting trans people against work discrimination.
trans man* and from Poland so until i will fall on a white raven of an employer everyone denied my apps. I kind of live on money after my dad who died a couple of years ago and until i study and I'm not 26 I can still hold on it. Obviously, I take side geeks like art commissions and still looking after some cash like selling stuff on conventions it is still- yeah... :josad: but tho bigger worry for me rn is collecting referrals to public clinics so i wouldn't pay that horrendous amount for all the tests needed to get testosterone which is not cheap as well. that endocrinology and internist doc is from private clinic as well so wish my wallet luck. there's so much stuff to still get around like documents and to not get pushed under a train for even having rainbow socks or a pin (they were cases like that, and not once i even entered to shop and i felt aura that one wrong move or word and my face get's smashed against a ladder, but at least on my side of the country it is not as bad as it used to)
but still: they can spit and throw slurs at me and i can't do shit, and getting a job is a joke :catsweat:
 
but I just don’t get why you spend so much time trying to argue against it.

I remember in this other thread this one guy posted legit antisemitic carnards about how Jews were behind all the bad things and whatnot.

I could get into an argument with him and report him. Or I could just treat it for what it is: the words of a baffoon.
Because I'm seeing this forum as what it is, a gate toward the community of One Piece. I'm part of this community, so I consider that I should not let it rot and become something terrible. Problem : People are using One Piece to spread problematic rethoric, sometimes just toxic, sometimes sexists, sometimes transphobic and sometimes antisemitic.

But I believe that if one of the most toxic forum of One Piece can becomes a barrier against those behavior, then the rest of the community can be strenghtened and better because of it.

More and more people will get into One Piece just like more and more people will pass through this forum.. and One Piece is a political story, meaning that it can also be used for political and problematic agendas as mention above. This is why this section is important and this is also why showing that there is a contradiction in the hearth of the most toxic place of the community against toxic and bigoted ideologies is foundamental.

The more times goes, the more people will arrive and the more inclusive the fanbase will become.. at the condition that we keep a close watch on toxic behaviors.



if you're gonna talk then you gotta be prepared to listen to others too
As long as they stay in the limit of ethic, I'm cool with that


if you were slightest bit rational you'd see why I said that
We live in an era where there are at least three genocides happening in real time and the mainstream media is covering none of it properly. We also are on a forum dedicated on a story that talk about the impact and the monstruosity of genocides and the problem of shutting down the informations and the importance of raising awareness about the truth...

We are in the perfect place to talk about those subjects and create a link fiction and reality.


sadly I m the mod not you
With great powers comes great responsibilities.


trans man* and from Poland so until i will fall on a white raven of an employer everyone denied my apps. I kind of live on money after my dad who died a couple of years ago and until i study and I'm not 26 I can still hold on it. Obviously, I take side geeks like art commissions and still looking after some cash like selling stuff on conventions it is still- yeah... :josad: but tho bigger worry for me rn is collecting referrals to public clinics so i wouldn't pay that horrendous amount for all the tests needed to get testosterone which is not cheap as well. that endocrinology and internist doc is from private clinic as well so wish my wallet luck. there's so much stuff to still get around like documents and to not get pushed under a train for even having rainbow socks or a pin (they were cases like that, and not once i even entered to shop and i felt aura that one wrong move or word and my face get's smashed against a ladder, but at least on my side of the country it is not as bad as it used to)
but still: they can spit and throw slurs at me and i can't do shit, and getting a job is a joke :catsweat:
 
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AL sama

Red Haired
As long as they stay in the limit of ethic, I'm cool with that
yours are quite biased
We live in an era where there are at least three genocides happening in real time and the mainstream media is covering none of it properly. We also are on a forum dedicated on a story that talk about the impact and the monstruosity of genocides and the problem of shutting down the informations and the importance of raising awareness about the truth...

We are in the perfect place to talk about those subjects and create a link fiction and reality.
like I said if you were slightest bit rational you'd see why I said that
With great powers comes great responsibilities.
sorry I m not peter parker
 
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