Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1104 Spoilers Discussion

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Cruxroux

Stop wanking the Fraudmirals. All three of Luffy's commanders can beat them, including Sanji and Jimbei.
What drug are you on?
Akainu Blasted through Jimbei , Kizaru kicked and negged G4 luffy.
I'm no Admiral supporter but Except zoro and luffy none can take on admiral at the moment in the crew.
 

Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
First of all, is you that said "commanders".

Second, BB flee with all of his crew :milaugh:.

And Ray? Ray was huffing after one second of fight with Kizaru. And old WB managed only to cheap shot Akainu lol. In 1vs1 Akainu never got hit and even when cheapshotted, he took half of his brain.
First of all, that you needs to use yc3 like feat it means than you don't have nothing better.
Second, That BB crew weren't defeated by Sengoku and old garp (yes that old garp than kuzan needed shiryu nerf for him) so akainu would be defeated.
Third, old ray wanted to stop kizaru while kizaru wanted to kill luffy and he finally couldn't and even he couldn't defeat that old ray.
And the last about ultra nerf wb who couldn't use coo and coc (that was the reason than akainu could hit him), and was sick and mortal damaged, he was close to kill akainu ( without adv coc).
But don't worry when the chapter will out I will make a thread about the admiral level with corresponding panels
 
This gotta be the dumbest logic ive seen lmfao
Didnt even evaporate burgess
It just mean kuma s haki is top lol
Because current Sabo is comparable to DR Sabo, right?
Man, Sabo just got that DF there. Later on, we saw Sabo training off screen. He mid diffs his DR version at least.
And Sabo's Haki isn't top? Kuma taught him that Haki after all.
 
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Cruxroux

? Vegapunk was worried a laser would damage seraphim, Linlin gets filled with holes
Seraphim are in their initial stages. It was literally qouted laser testinf is yet to be done.
Linlin don't get anything. Kizaru lasers won't work on her when a fuckin railgun didn't.
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Marco just can’t wash Queen.
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Because current Sabo is comparable to DR Sabo, right?
Man, Sabo just got that DF there. Later on, we saw Sabo training off screen. He mid diffs his DR version at least.
And Sabo's Haki isn't top? Kuma taught him that Haki after all.
Blud acting like sabo got 100 times stronger than his dr version
Deal with it fire is a useless ability in one piece
Kuma s haki punch>fire fist
 

TheAncientCenturion

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Seraphim are in their initial stages. It was literally qouted laser testinf is yet to be done.
Linlin don't get anything. Kizaru lasers won't work on her when a fuckin railgun didn't.
Zoro called them practically invincible and they’re not harmed from those 12 hours of fighting top tiers and Sanji

Their defense > Linlin’s

mans vega was fearful of them facing lasers
 
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Cruxroux

It's pretty simple: Sanji's stats just needs to be highly better than YC1's.
He doesn't need to learn skill x/y/z to reach this and that level. Plus, his exoskeleton, as well as his IJ already gives him enough power to match other YC1. He's combining armament Haki + exoskeleton to reach this high level of fire, don't forget that. Marco will have a hard time damaging Sanji. Same as Katakuri. King is more tricky due to his fire mode but flameless King would have to match IJ Sanji which is not an easy task either.

Plus, Sanji has G4+ AP with high fire lethality in IJ, his speed was fte for Queen who even tagged Marco for a bit. But against Sanji, the former was completely invisible to Queen as if Sanji used invisibility. Again, we talk about Queen; Kaido's Nr. 2.

Even with DJ and exoskeleton, Sanji can match YC1. He's not ~WCI Sanji since wearing his RS several times awakened his Germa genes.

Honestly, Sanji is one PU away of surpassing them all, even drastically depending on the PU, either way.
Sanji AP isn't G4 + , where did you get that from?
 
What drug are you on?
Akainu Blasted through Jimbei , Kizaru kicked and negged G4 luffy.
I'm no Admiral supporter but Except zoro and luffy none can take on admiral at the moment in the crew.
Akainu isn't an Admiral. He is a Fleet Admiral. So it is unfair counting him with rest of the Fraudmirals.

And to your Snakeman point, that was just a small clash. Luffy went G4 for a few seconds, lost the initial bout and immediately went G5. If he had held on, he might have gone to extreme diff.

Zolo and Lanji are around Snakeman level. So they have a chance to beat the Fraudmirals.
 
Battle was never concluded in the first place.
We have no idea how far ray can pish kizaru.
Sure. Still Ray, who is a lot stronger than any Yc1, was on the losing side from the beginning.


Who were without their fruits.
Yeah, but BB double fruited + Shiliew (who was ~ Magellan) + all the legendary prisoners + his old crew >> every Yc1. And they fled as they saw him.

Naah bro , he gave up after that lol.
Well, almost right after Sengoku gave the order. Akainu wouldn't have attacked just for Koby, but Kizaru and Aokiji attacked for Luffy.

He bitched out , If kaidou or Any yonkou was there , they ain't backing away.
Kaido has literally backed against Shanks and his crew, and he had King with him and Shanks did not even got a wrinkle on his shirt after that.

Admirals > Yc1 is fact but A few YC falls above Admirals.
Some special, such as Ray prime, yeah, but the "normal" YC1 are not even comparable. And that's why I replayed, since he was going around using the likes of Marco for example.
 
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Zolo and Lanji are around Snakeman level. So they have a chance to beat the Fraudmirals
Zoro is stronger than that and sanji is weaker than that.
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Sanjis raw strength surpasses gear 4 by a huge margin. Add his heat from IJ it’s well above G4 AP…
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Jimbe got hit from behind shielding Luffy. Croc blasted Akainu.

 
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