Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1104 Spoilers Discussion

[EmperorKinyagi]

We would all be eating Zoro vs Kiz would be epic :cheers:

Zoro hasn’t earned that fight

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Now i know this is fake

In 24 hours, I’ll be accepting your apology

 

[SakazukiTheFist]

No it’s were told the fight lasted ten days and see the aftermath; of course the fight was extreme diff.

Just because Sakazuki won doesn’t mean he mid diffed kuzan

In any place did I say Sakazuki mid diff Kuzan, I said it was not as equal as people claim to be.

If Akainu is 100

Kuzan is a 93-95.

 

[MarineHQ]

MF Sengoku vs 2 years later Sengoku

You’re telling me it’s just the time that passed ? That nothing happen in his head, that he didn’t let it go ?
The man retired, not the figure of the Marine anymore.

But that's exactly the point, isn't it ?
The physical condition of the individual is extremely important. Sengoku's decline is clear. The man looks like he aged 50 years. There is no statement of him keeping himself fit, he just chills and chills like Rayleigh did.

Same for Garp the man just lost his grand son in front of his eyes without doing, obviously it left a mark, and the story told us : he retired, was forced to stay to be a marine trainer and help Coby but he wasn’t a Marine anymore, wasn’t a solider.

But he still kept himself fit, that's the major part. Why would Old Rayleigh be in any better condition?

He retired decades ago while Garp only retired 2 years ago. If both declined at the same pace Garp would still be far better off especially because he is slightly stronger in the first place.

And now put the fact that he was physically relatively fit on top of that, I believe it's totally unreasonable to say Old Rayleigh has any claim to be stronger.

Agree to disagree IG

 

[Sir Yasheen]

In any place did I say Sakazuki mid diff Kuzan, I said it was not as equal as people claim to be.

If Akainu is 100

Kuzan is a 93-95.

If Sakazuki is 100 Kuzan is 99. Kizarus like 91.

 

[mly90]

Zoro hasn’t earned that fight

He has more than earned it anyone below top tier isn't worth Zoro attention

 

[Ragnarok]

I see that the fans were hungry for a chapter like this, too many agendas now, food delivery Kizaru Agenda dead, kizaru joins Luffy dead, Luffy a KO blow on Kizaru who doesn't hold back, Saturn is a fraud.. etcthere are 4 spoiler lines and there are 140 pages

 

[Juanpiz]

Don't hate the truth brother. Kizaru is not the main threat of the arc. He is just a subordinate. The main villain of the arc is Saturn. Kizaru will probably fight fodders like Zoro or Sanji

Akainu (during mf) and Lucci (during ennies) were subordinates too

 

[SakazukiTheFist]

If Sakazuki is 100 Kuzan is 99. Kizarus like 91.

Damn, what the hell?

What is GB then 70?

 

[ConquistadoR]

If Sakazuki is 100 Kuzan is 99. Kizarus like 91.

100, 99 & 98.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

In Oda's original plan the three admirals were Sengoku, Shiki, and Sakazuki.

Anyone that doubts Akainu is going to be on fraudwatch in an arc or two

 

[SakazukiTheFist]

It’s about Luffy fighting Kizaru

I want that

 

[RayanOO]

Wrong.

FA Aka > Egghead Aokiji > WCI Aokiji > Film Z Aokiji > Mf Akainu > PH Aokiji > Pre Ts Aokiji

With every appearance in a new island, a new version of Aka & Ao are born.

Fleet Admiral Sakazuki = MF Sakazuki ~ Kuzan = MF Aokiji

They don’t randomly get stronger and weaker.

Yeah sure

one having his justice prevail, rose in power and with a new rank and won the fight

while the other justice lost, lost his title and rank and went rogue, lost a limb and lost the fight

yet everyone is equal before and after the fight ?

 

[Wizak08]

Sanji vs Kizaru is a bad joke

Sanji tagging with an admiral would be a huge L for admiral bros, imagine a YC2 keeping up with the Navy's strongest force? Commanders >= Admirals agenda will go crazy

 

[Sir Yasheen]

100, 99 & 98.

95 at most. Kizaru ain’t on their level. Kizarus on par with Fuji and Ryo

 

[Juanpiz]

Damn, what the hell?

What is GB then 70?

69

 

[zenox]

" sanji vs kizaru "
more like sanji getting hypetooled yet again

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...iginally-supposed-to-be-a-navy-admiral.29013/

Oda's original three admirals were Sengoku, Shiki, and Akainu.

Doubting Sakazuki is going to be result in taking A LOT of L's later lol @ConquistadoR, Oda clearly views him relative to Sengoku and legends

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yeah sure

one having his justice prevail, rose in power and with a new rank and won the fight

while the other justice lost, lost his title and rank and went rogue, lost a limb and lost the fight

yet everyone is equal before and after the fight ?

Sakazuki rose to a new rank to prove his justice while Kuzan instead went out to sea to prove his. Youre acting like Kuzan somehow lost his sense of justice lmao

 

[ConquistadoR]

95 at most. Kizaru ain’t on their level. Kizarus on par with Fuji and Ryo

Thats called copium. You're only trying to separate Fuji & Ryo & Kizaru because they hurt Akainu wank.

All 5 of them are near equals. And all 5 of them are jokes compared to someone like Kaidou.