Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1104 Spoilers Discussion

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🤔what if it was one of the black beard pirates who fed luffy

Maybe Catarina can use the abilities of whoever she copies or Shiryu came to the island

In story time I think the fight on pirate Island was yesterday he could probably get from pirate island to egghead in that time🤔
 

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Jack got done dirty by not having a proper fight with proper feats.

But Franky got done diry by not being allowed to fight Sasaki one on one, and wasting cola on a Number first.

Franky probably wins.
These revisionist takes are crazy.
Franky had to sacrifice the Shogun in a 50/50 bet to barely land a Radical Beam on Sasaki's weakspot.
He wasn't even overwhelmingly superior to Sasaki like Robin was to Black Maria.

But somehow he beats Jack lol.
 
This bum talking about credibility.

No, this started because you glazed Sanji over nothing. You're the one claiming Saturn's stab just now was anything impressive to glaze Sanji for deflecting it. The burden of proof is on you anyway.

You claim "He's a top tier so of course he has top tier physical strength" but at the same time you mention how "Not all top tiers are equally durable, so his durability being lower doesnt mean anything": yes, it doesn't mean anything, it also doesn't mean his physical strength equals other top tiers, by your own logic.

I addressed your "evidence" already: it's not evidence. It's an argument, but no evidence at all. In fact, I have addressed your "evidence" thrice by now and brought up points that you have ignored.

You're rude because you were raised that way, don't make excuses for your parents. You were calling names on the very first comment way before I dismissed your "evidence". So I'll say again: I'll wait for Saturn to show something that substantiates your claim.
All top tiers are shown to be much more powerful in every aspect compared to yonko commanders. This is true in the manga consistently.

However durability is the only exception. We've seen top tiers have equal durability to Don krieg and we've seen top tiers with durability that far exceeds anybody shown.

But across the board. Everything else has a baseline. You need to be a certain level to call yourself a top tier. Yes they vary in specific categories but they all have reached a certain baseline.

Durability is the only exception.

Your willful ignorance on this is amusing at this point. But I'm not gonna entertain it forever.

It was impressive that sanji stopped it. I don't see doflamingo stopping this attack even is he used his ultimate. Doffy is considered fodder in the presence of top tiers. Saturn is a top tier.

Do you think doffy could stand up in physical strength to Shanks? Or aokiji? Fujitora? How about big mom? Could even katakuri or king?

But sanji did.

You say he's physically weak and I ask for proof why. Please provide it.

Until then I'll consider this feat as much more impressive than jimbei blocking big mom and more impressive than wci luffy vs big moms punch

Why? Because saturns a top tier and top tiers aren't weak. I fully expect Saturn to be able to physically damage any yonko commander or top tier that doesn't have their durability highlighted. I expect saturns legs to be able to stab Shanks who was hurt by a sea king.
 
Goofy fans thought they will be the first to punch saturne and start the incident, hold this Ls. luffy is going to come back and fight kuma & Wranky left over.
Dude WTF you talking about everyone could see kuma coming and getting a attack on Saturn before luffy fight or attack him .
It not like luffy always attack the big bad first ( even bonney already attack Saturn twice ).
 
These revisionist takes are crazy.
Franky had to sacrifice the Shogun in a 50/50 bet to barely land a Radical Beam on Sasaki's weakspot.
He wasn't even overwhelmingly superior to Sasaki like Robin was to Black Maria.

But somehow he beats Jack lol.
He was. Hence he fought Both Sasaki and his entire Squad
 
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