Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1104 Spoilers Discussion

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Overdosing on copium badly. Lizaru got turned into a quadruple paraplegic with a single shot by Luffy. Meanwhilst Loro using all his strength, every drip of King Of Clowns mode, every drip of Odens haki, with all the strength of Enma and still couldn't even land a single scratch or effect 1 HP Lucci on any way, shape or form. Blud getting off screened by 1 HP Lucci whilst Sanji gets to fight the dude Lorotards were hoping Loro to fight :luffylaugh::luffylaugh::luffylaugh:

Now Luffy has gone to solo the buster call/save Loro from getting offsreened by 1 HP Lucci and then he'll back to deal with Saturn. Loros been the equivalent of Ussopp right now, bum ass side bitch couldn't even scratch Kaku and straight up lost a clash with S hawk and now his getting packed by 1 HP Lucci :lulz:
Why is Loro so weak?
@GUI VI see
I told u why
 
Only sugars and boas are hax like that. Usually abilities like that are negated by haki such as laws, or doc Q’s.
Okay so you named two abilities that could be countered and two that couldn’t. Of course there’s also Kids ability that couldn’t be deactivated against a yonko using haki so that’s three. And of course there’s also Kaido getting tooned by Luffys hax so there’s four…

Huh starting to not seem like exceptions
 
The opposite zoro has feats with stronger people than kizaru

If sanji can do anything to kizaru
You can never compare admirals to yonko again
And Admirals have feats with people stronger than Sanji so your argument makes no sense.

What makes sense then is the strength hierarchy between Sanji and Zoro. Since Zoro fans were begging for the Kizaru fight they hoped Saturn would be No.1 while Kizaru is No.2 and now that Sanji gets him it's well and truly over.
 
And Admirals have feats with people stronger than Sanji so your argument makes no sense.

What makes sense then is the strength hierarchy between Sanji and Zoro. Since Zoro fans were begging for the Kizaru fight they hoped Saturn would be No.1 while Kizaru is No.2 and now that Sanji gets him it's well and truly over.
Reminder when kizaru first Made his way to the arc people were saying Sanji vs Lucci and Zoro vs Kizaru showing how Zoro >>> Sanji.

The opposite happening is just karma.
 
Okay so you named two abilities that could be countered and two that couldn’t. Of course there’s also Kids ability that couldn’t be deactivated against a yonko using haki so that’s three. And of course there’s also Kaido getting tooned by Luffys hax so there’s four…

Huh starting to not seem like exceptions
If Sanji hadn’t been trapped by it you’d be singing a different tune. This ability is similar to doffys, which could be broken by strong haki.
 
And Admirals have feats with people stronger than Sanji so your argument makes no sense.

What makes sense then is the strength hierarchy between Sanji and Zoro. Since Zoro fans were begging for the Kizaru fight they hoped Saturn would be No.1 while Kizaru is No.2 and now that Sanji gets him it's well and truly over.
Sure it is over
When zoro arrives
 
He didn't touch Sanji
He eye diffed him like how Kizaru doesn't touch others and he just sends laser
He held him down via hax
and ? it's his ability like how Logia's hax is around intangibility .
We've seen this chapter how Sanji compares physically casually swatting aside his attack.
Sanji is below a 1 HP Kuma who moved around the Aura , And Saturn took their attacks and regenerated like nothing happened i can remember how mfs went hard on Kaido when scrubbards injured him and Kiku pierced his hand , you all thought he got heavily injured
 
You know what...

If Sanji -does- defeat an Admiral first. This might pose an interesting development going forward.

Zoro is the Pirate Hunter. He defeats the most dangerous pirate (bar the main guy) in the big bad's crew.

Maybe Sanji will do the same, but it's for Marines. He isn't 'The Marine Hunter' as that is Mihawk. But still...

And this is the distinguishing part. Ultimately, the pirates ARE stronger. The hierarchy is maintained, it's just different kinds of enemies.

Makes you think...
 
Zoros performance against Lucci this arc makes it clear that the dude was getting boosted by Odens Haki on roof top/possibly in the King fight, like, seriously. We know Kaido felt the presence of Oden in it and then "scarred" Kaido. Here the bruvs not even being able to scratch 1HP 1/20 version of Kaido, and understandably, Oden presence would no longer be in it as well, so Zoros real own KOH/ACOC is this weak? :luffylaugh:
 
If Sanji hadn’t been trapped by it you’d be singing a different tune. This ability is similar to doffys, which could be broken by strong haki.
Yeah because someone with stronger haki than Saturn got caught by it is the point.

I’d be saying the same if even jinbe got caught in it. The power is legit just a hax it’s that simple. Trying to headcanon your way through others being able to break it is just going to drive you crazy.
 
Overdosing on copium badly. Lizaru got turned into a quadruple paraplegic with a single shot by Luffy. Meanwhilst Loro using all his strength, every drip of King Of Clowns mode, every drip of Odens haki, with all the strength of Enma and still couldn't even land a single scratch or effect 1 HP Lucci on any way, shape or form. Blud getting off screened by 1 HP Lucci whilst Sanji gets to fight the dude Lorotards were hoping Loro to fight :luffylaugh::luffylaugh::luffylaugh:

Now Luffy has gone to solo the buster call/save Loro from getting offsreened by 1 HP Lucci and then he'll back to deal with Saturn. Loros been the equivalent of Ussopp right now, bum ass side bitch couldn't even scratch Kaku and straight up lost a clash with S hawk and now his getting packed by 1 HP Lucci :lulz:
Why is Loro so weak?
And so. Do you agree that Niki's strength + joy Boy's strength are too strong for goofy's rubber vessel? Having spent all the strength of someone else's gift, Goofy could not damage kizaru, and he fell into a coma begging for help. He was fed, taken to a safe place while Kizaru was being attacked by mugiwar .... The most pathetic and weak captain .... Meanwhile, Zoro without a bandana, without koh, only with ryoo (green smoke) forced Lucci to activate awakening, which goofy turned on g5, running away from the battlefield without strength. I remind you Lucci called Goofy weak garbage....
 
Yeah because someone with stronger haki than Saturn got caught by it is the point.

I’d be saying the same if even jinbe got caught in it. The power is legit just a hax it’s that simple. Trying to headcanon your way through others being able to break it is just going to drive you crazy.
You think Sanji is stronger than Saturn?

Jesus…
 
He eye diffed him like how Kizaru doesn't touch others and he just sends laser
Eye diff is hax but laser isn't. Everyone was hit off guard by it and it barely did any damage.

and ? it's his ability like how Logia's hax is around intangibility .
One is an attack and the other is defense. You can bypass intangability with Haki but you can't free yourself from Saturn's hax.

Saturn is using magic. He's a sorcerer. What's important is how Sanji does physically against him.

Look how 0.01 HP Kuma send him flying and how a few buildings crushed his arm. Imagine Sanji uses IJ.
 
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